F4e - still without success? ;)
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F4e - still without success? ;)
thats just mean
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Originally Posted by logigamer
That is mean, really mean.
So I gues the best bios for the ds3 for the highest fsb`s possible is currently the F3 bios from Gigabyte`s webpage ?
F4c is the preferred DS3 BIOS right now.
and why is that ? :)
How come CPU-Z still reads the F4C as F1 bios even though I have updated to them?
Mine did that when I flashed to F3. I then used @BIOS to flash to F4c and CPU-Z showed it correctly. YMMV.Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy
new F4E bios : this one is not bricking your ds3 ;) http://rapidshare.de/files/28960251/965pds3.f4e.html
A few other guy`s and me have hexedited this bios, it`s definitely for the ds3. I`m gonna try this tomorow :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
thanks kenofstephen
I flash the bios with this new beta bios and seems to work ok but I want to know what the fixes are.
what does that mean :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
yes F3 is the best so far :) >>> for my two DS3 motherboardsQuote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
bricking means destroy your ds3. I think F3 was the best, my mate in Holland get`s much more fsb and higher oc`s with the F3E
bricking = not good = like stoning but hurts more
With all this flashing is no one worried about it going wrong and wrecking the board especially when it doesnt have a removable bios?
Higher ratios seems to be a physical impossiblity it seems or they would have implemented it by now :confused:
doesn't this board have a dual bios
You have a not so nice sign for reading mr dinos22 :)
lol hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
can you delete it please http://gathering.tweakers.net/global/smileys/heart.gif ?
and since when do we need an excuse to get a new board... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I dont think it does since that does cost more to make. I think they have some sort of backup system where you always have the ability to flash the bios even if the main bios has been wiped - they then say as good as 'dual bios'Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
My E6400 can run to 3.60GHz. vcore1.500 (stable).
The fsb 481 @3.84GHz. SuperPI 1M can passed at 15.2sec. But I'm worry about it's too slow for 3.8GHz. cpu :confused: .
The max clock speed is 3.91GHz. but it's can't pass any tests. :p: http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=111750
When I'm ruduce multiplier to 7x it's can increase the fsb up to 490 :D
This is the first Gigabyte mobo which I like! :clap:
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/2...l4pi1m1yv2.jpg
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7315/bus490il3.jpg
things are definately looking up for this board. i switched from a 6400 to a 6600 and now the board is playing much nicer. using the f4e bios.
just with playing around. i was able to hit 3.7 with everything set at AUTO. only disable the USB legacy setting. i was getting too greedy and tryed for 3.8 and it froze big time. this was all done using the win app.
the only crazy this is when i set it at something like 2.9 or so i get a Super PI (16) of about 18 secs. but at 3.7 it got alot worse. like 25 - 27 secs. and the temps get ridiculous.
question here is does this thing not like nvidia cards. cuz i cant do crap with my 6800gt's but better result with a 6200. guess ill search the forums for a good x18 or x19 for sale.
Check its not throttling, Dubz..
i think i may be missing something. i dont see anything in the bios about throttling. i am using the f4e bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by 775911
What is your max you get out of the cpu with a 9 as multiplyer Dubz ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dubz
Definitly nice results Deschutes :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deschutes
That`s almost 4 ghz ! nice :D. I`m curious what your board does with an e6600 :woot:
your OC on that CPU is the same as mine at the momentQuote:
Originally Posted by Deschutes
can you run a 32M SuperPI at 3.8GHz to compare notes
my 1M at 3840 NOT tweaked nor realtime(d) and was around 15.3...tad slower
3.8GHz 32M SuperPI was in 13m 57.187s
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Originally Posted by dinos22
Final F4 bios has arived.
http://tw.giga-byte.com/Support/Moth...me=GA-965P-DS3
you`l have to see for yourself if this is better than the f4e ( or F4c is you were sticking with that )
>>dinos, me like >> :cool: http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/2852/cpu3912ic4.png
damn, nice speeds
This is awesome, I can't wait to get my hands on this setup :D
F4C was :banana::banana::banana::banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
F4E was much better
F3 is great
i'll be testing F4 sooner or later :)
holy smoke what kind of cooling unit you use?
AIR
Thermaltake Big Typhoon
I'm back here to tell you anything about this m/b , we have tested 1.8V with success, and finally pushed to 2V to know if this board is really capable to give this crazy Vcore, and .... yes , it boot fine with 2Vcore but the cascade can't handle the load, so it's not better.
who said 1.6V don't boot ???? lol :D
Another Thing for those who can't boot, i've experienced same problem with 2 differents Fortron Power supply , so try another one if you can't boot.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ge_bonfire.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
:D :D :D
during some testing last night i went to 1.6v on airQuote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
goes to windows but mouse and keyboard won't work with that vcore in windows at any speed even stock...........drop to 1.59xx all is fine >>> back to 1.6v no good.............i can see the windows OS is nto frozen as icons are still loading up and hour glass kicks in every now and then
shame that vcore options are all great until 1.6.......cause the next one after 1.6 is 1.8v and that's way too much even some phase change lol heh
PJoeloe
the highest i have tried was 3.8 at 1.4v. but i am having terrible throttling issues. funny thing i dont see the option to turn off cpu thr. in the F4e bios.
Dubz, and witn ctrl F1 in the bios ?
my DS3 still wont cold boot over 400 FSB
i can boot from the bios at 424 x 9 and i can reboot but it wont cold boot.
friggin cold boot bugs are really starting to pi$$ me off.
the system must not apply full voltage are the initial boot stage.
from what i am seeing people do with the P5B Dlx that board is starting to look better and better all the time.
500 x 9 cold bootable ? man thats nuts.
but damn asus i refuse to buy anything from them ever again.
you mean http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...hlight=P5B+DlxQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
and http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...hlight=P5B+Dlx ? He used heavy cooling, the board never does 9 x 500 on air :(
pfpfp who said anything about air hehehe.
there air other people posting that they are able to do 450 and up without any issues, and thatss not subzero cooling.
im still happy with my DS3. and its still 100 bucks cheaper than everyone else.
i just want to be able to actually get the most out of my 6600 and my gskill HZ's.
the board wont let me run 925mhz on the ram no matter what i do.
925 or higher is a no go. which pretty much makes the HZ ram wasted money.
ok, what`s the difference than between that dlx and a p5w dh ?
My damn rig needs to get here faster T_T
Humm , i'm actually doing 32M at 7X533 air :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pjoeloe
Cold boot without problem.
Of course 9x500 is impossible on air, but i'm confident 8X500 is easily benchable.
hehe i was waiting for you to reply lol
I just can't get over 445fsb :( . I tried bios F4C & F4 final, no difference.
@ Dinos22: Did you reach higher fsb's on F3 bios then on F4C/E/final bios?
I also tried to raise fsb & mch voltage, but this doesn't seem to make any difference at all. If temps are no problem (I got a 120mm pointed at chipset), an fsb and/or voltage raise should have some effect, no?
Btw, I'm not cpu (I also used MP 6) or memory (ocz does 500mhz) limited. I also disabled some things in bios, like usb legacy...
Any ideas?
6400 is 8x multi right ?
so that puts you at 3.56ghz
if you have a retail 6400 then your gunna need alot of juice to reach higher.
according to what i am seeing from other 6400 owners.
what is an MP 6 ?
not sure it could be anything or it could be the max of that chip ? and the voltages ?
If you hit FSB wall it might as well be your cpu.
I went from 497 on air to 520 under vapo same settings. And I am pretty much sure it was RAM that could not work properly on this board @ >510
No, 6400 has a 9 multiplier:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
You must have a factory mistake if they gave you a 6400 with a 9 multiplier. They're supposed to be 8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
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Originally Posted by garnin
yep , they have multi x8 not x9 :D :D
BTW: i just arrived today from holidays and when i bought the DS3 there was only F2 and F3 bios , now i see there is F4c , F4e, F4 final , what is the best bios for Conroe E6400 ???
regards
500 mhz without any mods ? I`m wondering if this is a better choise than the p5w dh because of the things anandtech said .... Also , there is a non deluxe p5b from asus for alot $ cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by misteroadster
anandtech : "in this case the ASUS P5B Deluxe has a maximum FSB range of 400 (bios 0403 released today now raises this to 500), while the ASUS 975X board has settings to 500 FSB. This 400 top limited the highest overclock we could achieve to a 372 FSB, or a 39% OC of the 2.66 E6700 compared to the 50% overclock it achieved on the ASUS P5W-DH Deluxe. Overclocking is still much less stable on the 965 ASUS than we experienced on their 975X motherboard."
see http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2797&p=5 , maybe you have many luck :D
Indeed, max oc atm is 8x445= 3.56ghz. It's a retail 6400, but I only need 1.5v (in windows) to complete a 1M superpi. I haven't done more testing, so there's a big chance 1.5v isn't gonna be rockstable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Yeah I meant multiplier 6. But is it really possible the cpu doesn't go over 445mhz, even when you're using mp 6 ?(6x445=low clockspeed).
Has anyone compared the performance of the Intel and Gigabyte SATAII controllers? Non-RAID of course.
Quick question. I have DDR2 667 Corsair ram. I am not oc'ing the system at all. Is it better to run the ram at 1:1 (533) or 4:5 (667)? Would I see a difference in performance, is one better than the other?
Shawn
i have one problem , i changed some settings in Bios and SAVE and EXIT and now wont Boot , the computer is turning OFF and Turning ON automaticly in a cicle and only turn OFF if i turn OFF directly in the power suply .
I already tried clear cmos but wont boot , its the same thing ( turn OFF , turn ON , Turn OFF , Turn ON ......) .
Anyone with same problem???
sory for my english.
regards
fixed
Well all was well with me until I applied a Microsoft driver update for JMicron. Now my DVD drive does NOT SHOW UP!
I've tried to uninstall the gigabyte Controller (Yellow !) but can not get the optical drive back for nothing!
Anyone else run into this???
3rd reboot and remove finally found new hardware and all is good again.
This board is a lot better then the other DS3 I've had. I quit at 1.5v but seems like it has more in it with more Vcore.
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9...pi1mvy6.th.jpg
holy crap
why on earth are you guy's 1m pi times so friggin slow.
what gives ?
and 1.5v for 3.7ghz ouch double ouch
but thats normal i guess for the retails ?
but still why the extremely slow 1m 3.7ghz Pi
thats nuts
You might as well run it at full speed, why not..Quote:
Originally Posted by shawn1998
It gave a performance increase on an 805 for me so for conroe I would say definetly! Try downloading everest and test for yourself or superpi is quicker/simpler.
I want to know which boards allow for higher fsb even with slow ram like this..
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Originally Posted by gravelayer
NEVER EVER EVER!!!!! download stupid drivers from windows update.
come on man you should know this by now. this is OLD OLD school knowledge.
(many people also missed that i reported this many moons ago)
you have to uninstall the gigabyte controller and then resinstall it as the standard ide controller.
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Originally Posted by 775911
wrong
conroe doesnt benefit THAT much from higher ram.
it does as its the nature of any cpu. but the power of the conroe is in its own processing power its not dependant on ram.
there isnt even that much of a difference from single channel and dual channel.
and there isnt hardly any difference from 800mhz 5-5-5 and 4-4-4...
dude for the gizzilionth time we are running Allendale CPUs DO YOU COMPREHEND that fact :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
Do you even look and see what cpu is being used? I just ran it, didn't turn off anything, just ran it. I do know the difference between a 6600 and a 6400 as I've had both and the 4 vs 2 cache is huge in spi 1m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I'm sorry I posted it, between you and dinos I should have stayed off the forum tonight. Here's one more you can moan about.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/2...3700jf8.th.jpg
Sorry it took more Vcore and is slower then yours, now you have some more material for your posts.
lol relax dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
I think he'd benefit from the faster ram speed when multitasking, it doesnt do any harm anyway in his caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
I tell you what, I am personally SICK of hearing about the ES chips. They don't friggin' mean a thing to me anymore. I'd appreciate if I didn't hear another word about them.
oh man this ES chip i have at home is soo........... j/k:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
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Originally Posted by misteroadster
I can't boot with vcore 1.60 too! And now I change my cpu to X6800, it's can not boot at vcore 1.60 to. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
misteroadster, what's your BIOS version?
:idea:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
ES chips rock. They're sooooo.....er...hmmm
n/m... :slap:Quote:
I tell you what, I am personally SICK of hearing about the ES chips. They don't friggin' mean a thing to me anymore. I'd appreciate if I didn't hear another word about them.
Hi Everyone,
I've been playing with my E6300 on the DS3, and managed to get it stable at 470fsb. on cheap Geil 2 x 1 gig 5300 memory. Because it's used as a server I have backed it down to 460 fsb. I can't believe how good these chips are.
http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/5237/pppyq9.th.jpg
I was thinking of buying some better memory, what do you guys think?
Bios F4
Got my DS3 yesterday and 0 problems with it so far. Rev 1.0, came with F4e bios 'installed'. Running my dualprime stable E6400 @ 400 x 8, all voltages default (vcore set manually to 1.32whatever) except for vdimm which is +0.2. Temps are fine, no PIO mode crap as some have experienced, however there are many devices on a small number of IRQs but I don't have a problem with that, since the system seems blazing fast anyway.
awww you poor baby.Quote:
I tell you what, I am personally SICK of hearing about the ES chips. They don't friggin' mean a thing to me anymore. I'd appreciate if I didn't hear another word about them.
don't hate the playa hate the game.
dont be all pi$$y cuz you dont have an ES. and for once, intel makes an ES that is clearly better than retail chips.
historically ES chips dont OC better, we got lucky this time.
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Originally Posted by Stalk3r
F4e??? That isn't even a retail bios?!?!? Thats a beta bios isn't it? F4 was the newest released bios. Why would your mobo be flashed with a beta bios that just came out a week ago?
It was pre-tested I figure.
mobo makers will frequently put beta bios's on boards if its a bios that fixes issues.
its not a problem
F4 is a good bios other than the fact that it raises the vcore when using auto vcore. which technically is ok i guess as it means you dont have to touch the voltages.
i havent tested how for you can overclock before it stops raising voltages or if it raises voltages enough for higher frequeny overclocks.
ill give it a try tonight and see what happens.
it could turn out to be a nice feature. but then again it could be using too much voltage causing excessive heat issues.
i'll also check for what happens with auto vdimm.
i would check auto mch but i cant reach the mch read point because its in a tight spot when you have a pci-e video card.
Around 375 mine stops going higher, but I haven't tested at something like 420 or so. Damn board goes into uber reboot mode and I have to clear the CMOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
But between 375 and 400 I get about 1.425v when set to auto. I'm just using win progs to test this though, and not an actual multimeter so I'm sure your results will be more accurate, Lestat.
well my issue with the auto is that i only need 1.33v for 400mhz fsb ie 3.6ghz
so any more is just wasted juice and much unwanted heat.
ok Auto vcore @ 400mhz fsb ie 3.6ghz = 1.34v
EXACTLY!!!! where it need to be for a perfect 100% stable overclock.
i cant really go higher without running into stability issue from the flakey FSB of the DS3 but i will try and see what it jumps up to.
Anyone care to share a screenshot of MemSet? Whenever i have set in bios "Read to Precharge (tRTP) = 6" and in MemSet it gave 8? 8 in bios then MemSet it gave 10? :confused: What is value for Refresh Cycle Time (tRFC) suppose to be best at? :stick:
are you using the latest version ?
he posted a new version the other day or was it last week ?
Yes i am. This is the one i used, the latest i thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Lestat
well it is a beta
report this to Felix in the tweaker thread he will look into it.
Lestat, I have seen E6600 ES of step 1 and step 6, and I guess step 5, can't tell from your sig which you have? I got my non-ES E6600 up to 360 FSB for XP boot, on DQ6 with F3 BIOS, 1:1 5-5-5-15, no voltage changes. Looks like you're running 400 FSB. But I guess this thread is about DS3. I hear the DS4 will be more widely sold in a week.
hello,
i have
Gigabyte 965P-DS3
Intel Core 2 Duo E6400
SiS PCI 32mb video
2*512mb xms2-5400C4 corsair 4-4-4-12
and maxtor 300gb (sata drivers are not installed, so it works as IDE)
and i can't overclock :(
i updated bios to F4, disabled every advanced feature in bios
i tryd to overvolt everything and set memory timings 5-5-5-15 and fsb:ddr to 1:1, pcie is set to AUTO
cpu and chipset are cooled fine
if i rise fsb to ~290mhz, my system crashes/restarts
what you think what's the problem? in my RAM or IDE hard drive?
thank you
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Originally Posted by flavius
Very simple my friend, the DS3 is one of the worst boards available today. The high overclocks you see are just exceptions. A 1 in 10 exception. I was a fool myself in buying a DS3 and am stuck at 375MHz. Also it doesnt make any sense to me to sacrifice a pci-x video card for a pci one just to get higher. Your better of with a Asus motherboard, it cant be denied.
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Originally Posted by Servo128
You overclocked the ram from 333 to 460mhz? :eek: Why would you need better ram
Hello from Poland ;)
My E6400 & DS3 [bios F4C]
CPU is retail box
Mem : 2 x 512MB Geil 667MHz CL5 :slap: @2.4V for test, CPU@1.6V
Some SPI 1M, 16M & Cinebench 2003 (64bit).
16M SPI is very slow : ram is not good :mad: but 1M hmmm is ok and Cinebench score is actualy number 1 in Poland [Win XP 64 bit :D ]
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Originally Posted by DEVIL K-ce
you are on phase right???
regards
Not, I used home made chiller :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
http://images1.fotosik.pl/126/d4d68ffa98be2991m.jpg
Next will be the DI hmmm on E6600 :rolleyes:
regards
Ok-
I'm having a few issues with my setup playing games. Here is the setup
E6400
XP-120 cooler
DS3 F4 Bios
2x1024 OCZ 6400 Rev.2 Platinum
X1900xt w/Arctic Acclero Cooling
Enermax 535w PS
I have prime tested it at 3.2 default voltage for over 8 hours and I have memtested the memory at 800 for over 24 hours. The problem I run into is about 20 minutes into any game, my system spontaneously reboots. Any thoughts? NB heat issue? CPU heat issue? Mobo issue in general?
Self
same problem here. Everything is dual prime stable and memtested at 430fsb and 1.375vcore, but in games it crashes a lot. 1.44 vcore seems to have solved this, but that seems kind of high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yourself
Is this vcore safe for 24/7? I have a big typhoon and am getting 49-50C under dual prime load in Speedfan. Coretemp says 63C
You can use Atitray to display temperatures while playing a game, you might find that the graphics card being under load is raising your system temperature more then just using prime has done.
S+M is a good test, if it passes that no game will cause it a problem. It heats the gpu up and tests if the psu can handle full load. Set it to 100% cpu time for the proper test
what is S+M?
Hi,
does the 2x512MB Crucial Ballistix PC6400 with old D9 work good on the DS3? :)
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Originally Posted by BottomsUp
http://www.benchmarkhq.ru/english.html?/be_cpu.htmlQuote:
S&M 1.8.1
OS: Win9x/Me/NT/2k/XP, DOS Download Homepage Rating: 4/5 - 202Kb
Freeware
S&M is a pretty efficient CPU stress-test, which also includes memory tests. The interface is available in Russian or English.
I have noticed something similar to your situation and it does involve heat. But only for 1 major component in your system. That is the X1900XT. I have the same card and since it only happens when you play a game, that's the culprit. Make sure you download a tool called "ATi Tray Tools" and have it monitor the temps. If you're oc'ing anything over around 65'c or so will make the card crash (from my experience) and either lock your system up or reboot it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yourself
In Ati Tray Tools you can also set the fan speed to 100% to see if that helps your temps on that card.
Hope that helps! :D
My temps are the same on my X100xt on this setup as the one I just took it out of(Opteron 146@ 2.9) at about 68c under full load which a great temp for these cards. I don't think that's it. In my opinion its either the PSU, NB overheating, the mobo itself, or like the poster above, 3d stability needs a bit more voltage than dual prime. I will continue to check each... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Luck.exe
Self
Well HI,
I'm getting the DS3 but i'm not decided yet on the Ram, i reall y wonder wich ram should i go with I have the choice of two.( Super Talent ) The T800UX2GC4 STT DDR2-800 2GB or T1000UX2G5 STT DDR2-1000 2GB
I have an E6700 running 7950 Gx2. Any help on wich ram i should get and yes I will Overclock :)
Thx
Does the 965p-ds3 support "Conroe multiplier reduction" feature (ala ASUS)?
Since all retail E6600 and E6700 can't hit 3.6 (except with 1.6 or above vcore), it'll be good to lower the multi to 8x for a 3.2GHz at 400 (so that we get 1:1 DDR2-800).
CAM feature allows us to set low or high -- does low mean 6x?