ATI Radeon HD 4000 Series discussion

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06-17-2008, 10:31 AM
Stuen4y

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Originally Posted by 003

SWEET! What CPU and motherboard will you use? I hope an X38 or X48 board, so that CF gets dual PCIe 2.0 x16 lanes. P35 only provides a single x16 lane and a single x4 lane, both 1.0. P45 provides dual x8 lanes, both 2.0. So x38 and X48 would be the best choice.

Will you be benching with a yorkfield? If so, please keep it at a reasonable speed, such as 3.6GHz. :yepp:

Why don't you try to READ what is written before your post.

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Originally Posted by mascaras

my system:

E8400
4Gb gskill 8000 PQ
Asus P5E X38
Corsair TX750W
Windows Vista Ultimate 64bit

best regards

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Originally Posted by Stuen4y

Thanks in advance, I have only one more request. Up to this date we have only seen tests with E8*** on 4ghz, could you try 3.2 or 3.5, something like that, to see if the cards are bottlenecked by the cpu :).

Now answer yourself is your post spam.
06-17-2008, 10:32 AM
Unbornchild

In Europe they start selling tomorrow, starting price on popular Dutch webshop = € 175,00 :up:
06-17-2008, 10:35 AM
MrHydes

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Originally Posted by Unbornchild

They start selling tomorrow, starting price on popular Dutch webshop = € 175,00 :up:

yap only 175€ and you can imagine the diference between nvidia

flashgip and AMD top i think there will be a great diference

performance/price much better for ATI
06-17-2008, 10:35 AM
y2kbos

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Originally Posted by MrHydes

2x 4850 = GTX 280 KILLER and only costs 175€ each...

bye, bye nvidia

I think the true winner in this mess will be the GTX260.

2 x GTX 260s, will be smoking everything else except 2 x GTX 280

My guess is the 2 x GTX260 will beat what ATI puts out in the 2 GPU arena. Sure maybe if you 4x some stuff it'll beat 2x GTX260s but the price will probably be higher too.They need to priced $350
06-17-2008, 10:37 AM
Baron

Im so getting a couple of these cards... or maybe 3. :D
06-17-2008, 10:38 AM
Kai Robinson

Well at the moment the GTX260 is stupidly overpriced, and what you said, was just stupid.
06-17-2008, 10:38 AM
Stuen4y

Who needs all this power if can play EVERYTHING up to 1920x1200 with CF4850 in less price ;).

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Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Well at the moment the GTX260 is stupidly overpriced, and what you said, was just stupid.

Completely agree. The card is around 10% faster than the 9800GTX and 8800GTX/Ultra and is with around x1.5 transistors. I won't tell anything about the heat :).
06-17-2008, 10:38 AM
ORBR

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Originally Posted by y2kbos

2 x GTX 260s, will be smoking everything else except 2 x GTX 280

My guess is the 2 x GTX260 will beat what ATI puts out in the 2 GPU arena.

a single R700 blow away the 280
so how you can think that 2x260 will not be atomized by 2xR700?
06-17-2008, 10:39 AM
eleeter

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Well at the moment the GTX260 is stupidly overpriced, and what you said, was just stupid.

Don't hold back. Tell us what you really think.
06-17-2008, 10:42 AM
y2kbos

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Originally Posted by ORBR

a single R700 blow away the 280
so how you can think that 2x260 will not be atomized by 2xR700?

R700 = HD4870X2 ie 2 gpu's, 2 x 2 = 4 isnt it?

Im saying 2 x 260's will beat 2 x HD4870, price will be similar Nvidia aint stupid
06-17-2008, 10:43 AM
Stuen4y

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kbos

R700 = HD4870X2 ie 2 gpu's, 2 x 2 = 4 isnt it?

Im saying 2 x 260's will beat 2 x HD4870, price will be similar Nvidia aint stupid

Completely sure about that? Me not ;).
06-17-2008, 10:43 AM
MrHydes

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kbos

I think the true winner in this mess will be the GTX260.

2 x GTX 260s, will be smoking everything else except 2 x GTX 280

My guess is the 2 x GTX260 will beat what ATI puts out in the 2 GPU arena. Sure maybe if you 4x some stuff it'll beat 2x GTX260s but the price will probably be higher too.They need to priced $350

CF scales much better and if the micro stuttering issue comes resolved

this time then we allready have a winner because sure 4870X2 will be faster

than GTX280... :clap: 1 TERA FLOOPS my friend
06-17-2008, 10:44 AM
korda

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Originally Posted by Unbornchild

In Europe they start selling tomorrow, starting price on popular Dutch webshop = € 175,00 :up:

You sure? I thought it was next wednesday.
06-17-2008, 10:44 AM
y2kbos

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kai Robinson

Well at the moment the GTX260 is stupidly overpriced, and what you said, was just stupid.

Go on, I am willing
06-17-2008, 10:46 AM
spursindonesia

Hmm, it seems that my local forummates were not lying when they gave their impression out of this baby, against G92 single GPU derivatives, HD 4850 FTW !

EDIT: From the leaked slide pic, it's quite obvious that the launch price of HD 3870 512 MB GDDR5 would be 299 US$, how on earth a 399 US$ GTX 260 matches that value when everything points that GT200 cards are much more expensive to built ? Though i must say, with 448 MB version, GTX 260 price can be slashed perhaps to 349 US$, but i don't think it would happen anytime soon -from the experience of 8800 GTS 320 MB.
06-17-2008, 10:46 AM
Stuen4y

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Originally Posted by korda

You sure? I thought it was next wednesday.

The cards are in sale from tomorrow, that are the latest news :).
06-17-2008, 10:46 AM
mascaras

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuen4y

Thanks in advance, I have only one more request. Up to this date we have only seen tests with E8*** on 4ghz, could you try 3.2 or 3.5, something like that, to see if the cards are bottlenecked by the cpu :).
.

no problem :up:

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Originally Posted by Unbornchild

In Europe they start selling tomorrow,

:yepp:

regards
06-17-2008, 10:47 AM
w0mbat

@mascaras: There is no noticable micro stuttering w/ HD4850 CF but its all relative :D
06-17-2008, 10:49 AM
Genius_pt

Good, if micro stuttering is unnoticeable this should mean that hd4850 cf is better in everything than a gt280.
06-17-2008, 10:49 AM
Luka_Aveiro

People need to calm the heck down, you are too over-hyped about anything in the present.

Yesterday we had GTX280 reviews, today we have HD4850CF hype...

I bet all your hormones are just bumping hard, but don't get in kid fights saying GTX will be like this, HD4xxxCF will be like that...

We all know for ages CF works more than great @ 3dmark2006, and it is really good to see AA is working right with it, we should let the people who have the cards and the info do their jobs without any pressure.

So, please, calm down... :)

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Originally Posted by korda

You sure? I thought it was next wednesday.

I am sure too, a popular store here in Portugal also announced tomorrow they'll have HD4850's to sell :)
06-17-2008, 10:50 AM
ORBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by y2kbos

R700 = HD4870X2 ie 2 gpu's, 2 x 2 = 4 isnt it?

Im saying 2 x 260's will beat 2 x HD4870, price will be similar Nvidia aint stupid

wtf?
do you work for nvidia?
06-17-2008, 10:54 AM
korda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuen4y

The cards are in sale from tomorrow, that are the latest news :).

:eleph:

Thanks for the info. Gotta get me two of those.
06-17-2008, 10:54 AM
Milos-stancene

HD4850 would be around $370 and the HD4870 $430.
:ROTF:
06-17-2008, 11:01 AM
Stuen4y

Compared to what, to nvidia's almost insane high prices? We see different price policy from ati and it should work better and sale more vga-s.
06-17-2008, 11:07 AM
AAbenson

the HD 4850 is listed with max draw of 114W...didnt the 7900gt had around the same power draw?
im not sure which other card to compare to it when it comes to power consumption,from the "middle enthusiast segment" or whatever they call the 150$ to 300$ range...

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