I had a evga classy 760.. This board is much more stable (can only speak for my self).. not so much under or over volting from bios to windows. and more stable with my ram..Quote:
Originally Posted by overdoze
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I had a evga classy 760.. This board is much more stable (can only speak for my self).. not so much under or over volting from bios to windows. and more stable with my ram..Quote:
Originally Posted by overdoze
Well i got both and both are stable when clock properlyQuote:
Originally Posted by AceBaran
What i really dont like about this mobo is
It doesnt do 2k c8 at the correct vdimm
But does 2k c7 easy.
And again bios set voltage on dram dmm read overvolts by 0.02v on load. Recheck the sticks on 4 other boards to confirm
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/l...1/a99edce5.jpg
hmm ok this is the big difference on bandwidth r3e vs classy
basic..
classy main bandwidth on reduction of Cl on equal ram speed is the RTL's
rather than the subtimings of Read to Write
r3e gains bandwidth from lower Read to write than classy
uncore 4k dram 2000
R3e - RTL for any CL on R3e is best at 58,60,61
Classy - CL7 is at 53,56,58,CL8 is 58,60,61 CL9 is 61,63,64 etc
on CL8's the R3e is faster.. but when it comes to CL7 classy bandwidth is higher with lower latency
uncore 4k dram 1600
this is where the classy starts kicking r3e butt on latency
R3e - RTL 64,60,61.. on any CL's is optimum
EVGA - CL7= 2k C9 rtl's, CL6 = 2k C8 rtl's , CL5 = 2k C7's RTL's,
Vdimm Scaling
I am assuming this is the reason for r3e.. its because of the Read to Writes
r3e = 2k C8 = 1.52v , 2k C7 1.6v
classy = 2k C8 1.5v , 2k C7 1.6v
r3e = 1600 C6 1.5v.. and overclocking on this fixed preset is the same classy on vdimm
classy = 1600 C6 = 1.5v
ok this where i cheesed of with r3e
normally in any other mobo ure 2k C8 = 1866 C7 = 1600 C6 same vdimm.
And here is actually the cool part about r3e
Pro's of R3e
Its easier to clock 2000 compared to classy as the rtl's are more or less the same all out. So just the vdimm and ure qpi voltage for ure 2k rams and the 2k C8 and C9 is faster than classy
Cons of R3e
Above CL8.. on 2k .. not going to make much of a difference.
I can say this board feels better for sure.... although i couldnt explain it like you do.. since i dont know much about it.. still learning :)Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
Testing with linX gives me waaaay less bsods and much more room to experiment volt and speed wise ..
basic conclusion on the presets given.. r3e is more like noob proof up to bclk 200 for dram 2000mhz
but will also loose out to classy for PSC ram chips for 2133 and above at cpu multi 10.
btw asus has take more precautions on ocp for ure hardware
they have a 4 level ocp on r3e
one for cpu, vtt/qpi, dram and ioh..
it also has a dual llc options for vtt/qpi and cpu .. ( reason being for those not too keen to clock their ram )
and the LLC on it is pretty nifty with the 50 percent thingy.. ( afaik dfi dk x58 started this first on digital pwms)
few more notes
hmm basically for me atm my classy is beating the r3e but only after 2130mhz bclk 213 x21 dram speeds
but the tech on r3e is actually quite amazing.
This isn't part of the issue, as I'm not using the Marvell controller for RAID (only have 1 drive connected to it)... although just an FYI - I do have the Asus U3S6 PCIe card hooked up as well, and it does show up during POST. The issue I'm having is getting both the Intel ICH RAID config as well as the Promise FastTrak TX2300 RAID config screens to display during POST... if I'm in AHCI mode I see the Promise but not the Intel... if I'm in RAID mode I see the Intel but not the Promise... any ideas?? Thinking about removing the U3S6 to see if that helps but would hate to lose 2 USB3.0 and 2 SATA6Gb/s ports! I already removed my JMicron PCI-e RAID Controller...Quote:
Originally Posted by fgw
I have Win7 x64. The program launches AAHM.exe which should be visible in your task manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon
After I launched it, I just switched the app to Wifi mode, entered my PC's IP, and it worked. My IP is also statically assigned by my router.
From what I've been reading you can set your QPI to anything you want as long as it's within .5v of your vDimm. The CPU can't even detect all 12GB of my ram until I'm giving it 1.425v QPI or more.Quote:
Originally Posted by VoXPCS
I have my multiplier set to Auto and turbo turned off. That means I'm using the i7 930's stock, non-turbo multiplier of 21.
its your ram i can run 7-7-7-20 1N with my super tanlent ;) but g2g to work :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
post a ss later :)
lol.. if u aint gonna do 2150 and above on bclk 215..Quote:
Originally Posted by Dom7184
not worth mentioning
lol..
Don't think anyone runs rams over 2100Mhz for benching nor for 24/7, most stop around the 2000mhz mark with tight timings. Above looser B2B reduces efficiency... I can run 2260C8 on the RE III no problem...
Classie shines with big uncore speeds... So easy on that board compared to the newer generation X58 boards... a very well designed board, way ahead of it's time !! Kuddos to Peter and the eVGA team, well done !! Too bad we can't get hold of any samples from them ever...
I dropped my multi from 22x to 20x so I could raise my base clock to 200mhz & run my ram at 1600mhz. Still 24 hr prime stable:
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...prime9520x.png
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/t...inebench-1.png
:toast:
Seems like, everybody is getting high bclk, 240+ ? is that true, or only some boards can do it ?
why do i need bclk 215 when i got a unlocked multi :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by cstkl1
rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Dom7184
carry on with the screenshot. with some bandwidth on everest
Think ill have to start over again, tried the above but got error on 2nd run:)Quote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
Think i been pushing Volts to low maybe, and QPI LLC being off compensated somehow maybe "not sure":p:
Anyways will try some more today, thou im wondering about one thing : Got some Corsair memory sticks @1604Mhz "exact name in sig",
was wondering does that count as memory OC and how much effort should i put into setting RTLīs while still within what Corsair tested or should i leave it on auto?:confused:
See some set em.. while other leave all 3 RTLīs on Auto..
Since there is still no binning on the IOH chips used on the high end boards, high Bclocks are not warranted... I've seen UD9's stopping at 220, even a REX III locking at 215 for Christ's sake :(Quote:
Originally Posted by recent
Secondly it's not only the board that's the limiting factor, a lot depends on ya CPU and cooling setup... A brilliant board can't make a crappy CPU shine...
@MariaH79
If you really want to overclock the bit out of your memory, then try tightening RTL's and watch you bandwidth. Just be careful not to damage your OS while playing with memory. ;) Happened to me twice. :D
Here are some very good threads to read (not too large): RTL and Questions about Round Trip Latency
Can I get link for Bios 1005? The one on First page does not work.
Hey guys, i have a question to solve a dispute.
How many guys are running 12GBs of 2000Mhz memory for 24/7 usage? Is it possible? And if so what kind of QPI/Dram voltage you need?
How big is the RTL effect in eg superpi 32m ? Everst is not a good indication as it can be fooled or boosted by some bios tweaks : showing big bandwith, low latency numbers, though zero gain in eg Superpi 32M
I never touched them values as they are usually pretty tight preset...
its up on the official site now m8.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hardass
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
hence y disable write cache back on hdd'sQuote:
Originally Posted by donmarkoni
so far from my testingQuote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
from the default auto.. u can get about -1/-2 on 2x uncore
but say on dram 1600 uncore 4k.. the auto is very loose.. u can bring down to 6 -8 rtls
Thank you.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fmsam
Guys...my ICH and IOH temps are 68c and 67c. These are high compared what I've seen...any ideas on how to get the temp down?