come on people!!
start testing those cheaper 3000+ 3200+ venices :D
if it turns out ok, ill replace my winnie too (cant get a decent clock with high fsb on this one... :()
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come on people!!
start testing those cheaper 3000+ 3200+ venices :D
if it turns out ok, ill replace my winnie too (cant get a decent clock with high fsb on this one... :()
Yer, someone get a 3000+ or a 3200+ and overclock them. And hurry up with the shipment over to Australia so I can get my new PC! Been waiting for this for a while.
Man, I just cant wait... I need my PC for school. Anyone who jumped on NCIX wanna sell me a winny? ;)
A real n00b here, but what is the safest way to buy a used winnie? :confused: I would hate to get stuck with a piece of crap, or worse :explode2: Building 2 rigs and could use a winnie for the wife's - she won't know the diff.
Get the stepping before you buy anything. If its a CBBID, run away quickly. There are are some CPU charts, either stickied on this forum or the xtreme overclocking forum, that have a list of users max overclock, what stepping, voltage, cooling, ect. Shoudl give an idea of what the CPU would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by stickx
OFFTOPIC:XBit Sempron E review! Didn't see that one comin'...
Their version of CPU-Z detects it as a Paris core, but it got SSE3.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/s...00e/cpuz-2.png
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Originally Posted by Mats
Was looking at Processors>AMD at Newegg early this morning, or rather attempting to, and it was down, but just the AMD section only. Once it came back up, I was looking for Venice cored chips. Didn't see any, obviously, but I saw the Palermo cored 3100's ( not sure if they were there before or not ). Wow, that is some performance from a $118 chip.
For certain systems that just need raw processing, non-cache related, the 3100's are a friggin' bargain. If a budget mainboard could be found that could run these at high FSB ( like the DFI does ), that would be just the ticket for some looking to powerup for DC projects such as D2OL. :)
At any rate, this bodes real well for when Venice and SD chips do finally get here. The future looks bright. Now if it would just get here!
Omg this sux since I live close to the UKQuote:
Originally Posted by Wingz
Bye 4 april
I'm getting a new Winnie now :rolleyes:
From Xbit 3800+ review:
First I thought it was plain BS, but then I looked at the CPU pic, the Vcore letter is "A"!? Now we all want 1.35 V, but there's no way of telling which is which from the OPN anymore... :mad:Quote:
Venice based CPU prepared one more surprise for us: variable Vcore. AMD resorted to the same trick Intel did when packaging their CPU dies. Venice based processors will not have Vcore indicated on the die package. Different CPUs may have different Vcore: 1.35V or 1.4V. And unfortunately, there will be no way to tell the nominal processor core voltage from its exterior.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/a...ce/photo-s.jpg
Ok I dunno, but Xbit says that both Sempron D and Sempron E are called Palermo, the one you linked to is a Sempron D "SDA3100BABOX".Quote:
Originally Posted by serlv
Might be good to know for those looking for Sempron E.
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AMD’s roadmap doesn’t distinguish between the D and E core revisions. At the same time, these two core revisions are very different from one another, even though they are both manufactured with 90nm process. E core revision supports SSE3 instructions and boasts slightly upgraded memory controller compared with the memory controller used in D core revision. Nevertheless, the roadmap calls both cores Palermo, despite the above mentioned significant differences.
Therefore, you should understand that even though Sempron processors on Palermo core have already been around for quite a while (you can check out our review of the Sempron 2600+ CPU dating back to March 4, 2005), the Sempron 3100+ CPU we are going to talk about today is a different product. Our today’s processor is based on the E core stepping (Venice analog), while the CPUs that have been selling before April 4, 2005 are all based on D core stepping (Winchester analog).
So, if you are going to shop for some Sempron processors, you should be very careful and pay special attention to their marking, because only CPUs on the E core revision with SDAXXXXAIO3BO and SDAXXXXAIO2BO OPN will offer you SSE3 support and other nice advantages.
^^ well whatever that bodes well for yields. Didnt make too much sense to compare to intel. It was hypothesized they were putting more volts in then originally intended to get all there speed grades out. On the flipside to Intel's credit... that was also a BIG assumption back then considering everything that went on (added strained silicon, change the architecture a bit, and also pulled off a die-shrink). What is comparable is that we dont know. :(
Only point is everyone was expecting 1.4v... less is nice though yeah that does make hunting tough. But face it... you're searching for a new-found perhaps diamond in the rough compared to what was expected. Be a little different if this news went the other way (1.4's and 1.45's in the market place). Then you get the feeling you are trying to dodge a turd. Funny how my points run into another... the biggest downside is unavoidable. Kind of takes the hunt out of hunting if you can't tell.
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Originally Posted by mcnbns
You seriously are joking right? :stick: OMFG!!! I paid by paypal I can't get a refund... I'm such a nub :dammit:
I would never pre-order hardware... NEVER. Who throws up the web page and starts taking pre-orders has never followed, in any kind of pattern, who actually has them first.
LOL, yeah I guess you're right. It's just that it would have been so much easier if they kept the letters like before. Every overclocker would get "K", and all the other gets what left for them, "I". :DQuote:
Originally Posted by texuspete00
Whoops, my bad! Thanks for the correction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mats
How could you tell that? It only shows the Boxed version code at newegg, and not the actual code from the chip. I thought the BA meant "E" rev.
It would be good to know for future use.
edit Ahh, I see it now. BA="D", BO= "E"
Well my money will sit in paypal till someone actually has a 3500+ in stock. I figure if it dont OC good at least i have a 2.2 gig cpu and not a 1.8 gig.
Yea thats the thing that sucks about paypal, can't easily cancel an order. Meh if it doesn't o/c good you should still have at least a 2.4-2.5 ghz setup ;). If mine doesn't o/c well, I'll just keep the fx-53, and sell the 3000+ until I can snatch a venice from someone that does 2.8+ on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Don't panic. These guys will get it to you when it released. Unless Canada has a different date for release than the U.S. you should get it about the same time as everyone else. I pre-ordered my DFI SLI mobo through these guys and it was here about the same time as NewEgg's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
Same here, and I didn't have to worry about Newegg selling out (which it did immediately)Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
The end of April was a preliminary date given to NCIX Canada (not sure about U.S.) by AMD. Also, I'm not sure it was the official NCIX word because it was just one of their forum admins that posted it.
Deleted for flaming.
You guys in US are lucky. Here in Poland we mostly wait one month after pre for new hw. I was waiting for winnie 1,5 month. Good thing is that .cz and .de have new hw fast.
But then if i think about Asia , there are lucky bastards. They always have stuff first.
Venices are not as cold-sensitive, note his 3500+ at 3GHz/-40C/default volts. Miles better than any Winchester I've tried . . .
Also be looking for his testing of a 3800+ Venice to come soon ;)
just got the info this morning
too bad venice won't be seen in the market until May.
we still have wait a bit to get it.
what do you mean you got the info this morning? 0% credibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSW