lol NZ has stock right now, we are normally last to get :)
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lol NZ has stock right now, we are normally last to get :)
I'm not sure why the card is doing so poorly; in specs it's better than the 4870, so why? Is the memory limiting it? It seems sort of counter productive for it to have more shaders, but have them not properly fed - it's like giving away unused potential.
Here at Spain we don't get stuff earlier than you, I think. I always watch a little annoyed how other european countries like Germany, UK and so, get the stuff a weak or more before we do. Heck, I even only know of one shop in Madrid where you can buy a HD5850 (HD5870 it's on many more) and at a price tag of... 269€!
Where did you see how it's this card doing poorly against a 4870? I haven't seen any single useful comparison yet, apart from meaningful 3DMark values, and an AMD paper with some data that only God knows in wich test system and conditions is made...
Mini Review: HD4850 512MB vs HD5770 1GB
http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=33953894
i think it's higher than a 4870.
Far cry for example, 31.79 average for 4850, 42.43 average for 5770, that's a 33.47% increase in average FPS, i doubt that a 4870 is 33% more powerfull than a 4850.
If these cards will OC like hell (1100-5.3Ghz soft modded) then they will sell like cupcakes otherwise 4890 @ 180$ is the way to go,I won't mention the second hand market where you could buy a 4890 for the same price as a 5750...
Hmm, somewhat disappointing results, well at least to me.
Don't think this has been posted yet, it's probably one of the first few official reviews.
5770:
http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...036&cid=3&pg=1
5750:
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...24&postcount=1
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/sh...33&postcount=3
I really hope we finally see some reviews with a variety of hardware. With some down in the meat of the market too, where the vast majority of enthusiasts sit. An enthusiast doesn't mean people with an unlimited bank account. There's also people with dual cores that would be interested in these cards, and it really doesn't make sense for reviewers to completely alienate that large user base. The same is true for the 5800 series; there are many people with performance and mainstream class hardware that would be interested in them. So it makes little sense to have 40 reviews ALL SHOWING THE SAME THING!
I don't understand why there is so much resistance to using many combinations of different hardware, to accomodate as many people as possible. It would make things a whole lot more interesting, if not only for the fanboi wars alone! :D
There are 2 problems that keep reviewers away from using multiple/different setups.
1> The time needed to make the benchmarks.
2> The fact that most benchmarks with very high end cards end up CPU limited, thus failing to show the actual performance differences between the hardware.
How sweet, NDA is broke allready. Ok then, prepare thyselves :D
5770 doesn't look impressive to me at all, card is too neutered.
Yes, I know that argument, but what i'm suggesting is not that each site have to do a million different combination of tests, but that each website write a review using only one set of supporting hardware, running at spec (and overclocked).
It seems that all reviews written now, assume that everyone reading run their hardware at it's limits. I bet not very many do,
The Hardwarezone article doesn't look promising at all,the card has problems keeping pace with 4870 which can be bought for ~35$ less :mad:
I was really hoping to get this card to replace my 4850 but I'd rather buy a 4890 second hand than this,it will save me some money also.
ATi kinda failed with this card,too much inspiration from Nvidia.....:ROTF: now let's see some OC!
I think that...
800 SP + 128 bits + GDDR5 = bottleneck..
guess what 1600 + 256 bits + GDDR5 means... right... bottleneck..
I think that the 5770 shows exactly the problem of the 58xx series...
i think your right
lets compare
4870:
Core 800 SPs and 750 Mhz
Ram 115 GBs
5870:
Core 1600 SPs and 850 Mhz
Ram 153 GBs
the Core is about 225% faster
the Ram is only 33% faster
what happened to the 7GHz GDDR5 i herd we already have. the 5890 better be fing leet and break 200GBs
i also think ATI should have gone with 384 bit ram, it would have cost a little more, but i think they would be much stronger, maybe too strong.
Only problem with your bandwidth hypothesis is that OCing RAM doesn't give the appropriate performance gain one would assume it would if it were bottlenecked.