MCR-QP Stackable Radiator Series Released

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03-12-2009, 09:38 PM
Martinm210

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnee

I will try to have test data available at the same time as gabe to compliment the in-house testing.

Now, I'm off to an appointment with a Dremel and some D12SH12's in my garage (D12SL12's are available in open corner). :up:

Thanks Skinnee

Here's my guess:

Assuming yates for the slow speed and some good 38mm types for the high speed tests:

1000RPM = 5% gain
1550RPM = 8% gain
3000RPM = 15% gain

:shrug:
03-13-2009, 03:28 PM
Jonni Nitro

Quick question about my rads. I just got my stackable in today from Jabtech and matching up to my older one revealed a difference in fitting hole size. Is my original MCR320 rad a early model? Do all the current MCR320's have the G 1/4 fittings? If so I will just save my original for something else and buy a new MCR.
03-13-2009, 03:56 PM
Devil_Dog

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro

Quick question about my rads. I just got my stackable in today from Jabtech and matching up to my older one revealed a difference in fitting hole size. Is my original MCR320 rad a early model? Do all the current MCR320's have the G 1/4 fittings? If so I will just save my original for something else and buy a new MCR.

You nailed it. All of the current MCR's use G14 fittings.
03-13-2009, 04:28 PM
Jonni Nitro

Also, I want to put my res in between the pump outlet and the cpu block. Will that cause a pressure/flow drop? I was going to go pump>res>cpu>nb>rads>pump.... thoughts?

Anyone try hooking these up in series yet? I am wondering if forcing the fluid through both rads is better.
03-13-2009, 06:30 PM
headala

My old MCR-QP has the plastic barbs epoxied in. Anybody know how to get them out? I would have to in order to use a stackable...
03-13-2009, 07:44 PM
loften

try this at your own risk.. carefully heat them up evenly with a little fire then crack them loose... since epoxy melts before solder, silver solder, brazing or alloy's you should be fine. oops edit part.. didn't see the plastic barbs thing.. drill them out untill they are thin and pick the rest out..
03-13-2009, 07:51 PM
loften

or take a tiny tim blade (1/4 inch hack saw blade) and cut through the plastic untill just before it hits the metal threads top and bottom and pick them out..
03-13-2009, 08:50 PM
RVWinkle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro

Also, I want to put my res in between the pump outlet and the cpu block. Will that cause a pressure/flow drop? I was going to go pump>res>cpu>nb>rads>pump.... thoughts?

You want the res connected to your pump inlet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonni Nitro

Anyone try hooking these up in series yet? I am wondering if forcing the fluid through both rads is better.

It'll cause additional pressure drop so it'll probably only be better if you have a strong enough pump.
03-13-2009, 10:07 PM
IanY

Hopefully I can get the pictures of my worklog up by Saturday evening, if not Sunday noon. I'm putting a 220 stack with a normal 220, and another PA120.1 in series. I originally wanted to put a PA160 as well, bt I worry about pressure drop. It sure is a lot of fans.
03-18-2009, 04:28 AM
Lu(ky

Well I am in I just bought a Swiftech MCR220-QP from newegg, and the MCR220-QP Stackable from Performancepcs... I plan on throwing this monster in my new Antec Twelve Hundred case.... I am wondering what would be best for cooling it.

1. Leaving a 120x38mm fan in middle only
2. Putting two empty fans in middle (shroud) and doing a 4 x 120mm fans on both sides @ 50-70CFM?
03-18-2009, 05:20 AM
tuanster1119

Any word on when the MCR120 stackable will be released?
03-18-2009, 06:58 AM
skinnee

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martinm210

Thanks Skinnee

Here's my guess:

Assuming yates for the slow speed and some good 38mm types for the high speed tests:

1000RPM = 5% gain
1550RPM = 8% gain
3000RPM = 15% gain

:shrug:

Care to venture a guess of how many times I scream explatives while getting fans mounted? :rofl:

I'm using screws to mount the fans, with the rivets I'd have a hell of a time getting them out and fans mounted again.
03-19-2009, 07:45 AM
lazy

Skinnee, your testing the stackable right? when do you think you'll have results?
03-19-2009, 08:41 AM
Waterlogged

Quote:

Originally Posted by lazy

Skinnee, your testing the stackable right? when do you think you'll have results?

Check his sig. ;)
03-19-2009, 10:21 AM
topaimz

Quote:

Originally Posted by tuanster1119

Any word on when the MCR120 stackable will be released?

I'm also interested in the MCR120 stackable release date.

Perfect for a Quiet HTPC setup, or any mATX case; where
space is very limited :D
03-19-2009, 10:40 AM
Vapor

Quote:

Originally Posted by topaimz

I'm also interested in the MCR120 stackable release date.

Perfect for a Quiet HTPC setup, or any mATX case; where
space is very limited :D

Stackables really aren't the best for 'quiet' anything since they need ~1200RPM fans just to match a single rad. :eh:

Stackable config turns the MCR320 more into an "MCR320-GTX" :p: Gain high RPM performance at the expense of low RPM performance.

EDIT: though I'll admit that fans within a sandwich definitely seem quieter. My two San Aces in my shrouded sandwich at ~2650RPM are quieter than the 1 shrouded one at 2450RPM outside of the sandwich.
03-19-2009, 10:58 AM
topaimz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vapor

Stackables really aren't the best for 'quiet' anything since they need ~1200RPM fans just to match a single rad. :eh:

Stackable config turns the MCR320 more into an "MCR320-GTX" :p: Gain high RPM performance at the expense of low RPM performance.

EDIT: though I'll admit that fans within a sandwich definitely seem quieter. My two San Aces in my shrouded sandwich at ~2650RPM are quieter than the 1 shrouded one at 2450RPM outside of the sandwich.

Indeed.

But I don't think you can fit anything except a single 120mm radiator
stacked in some cases, like my Mini P180, or one of the Silverstone sugos.
03-20-2009, 08:20 AM
gabe

sorry for delay

Hello to all:

Earlier I promised that we would have hard data on stackable usage this week; unfortunately we had another equipment setback. After replacing the faulty RTD which took almost 3 weeks to arrive, we found out that our fluke digital thermometer was out of calibration, and to add insult to injury the calibration lab we usually deal with went out of business. We finally found another lab, and dropped the meters yesterday. These guys have a one week turnaround.

So, stay tuned.
03-20-2009, 08:28 AM
Hondacity

thanks for the update, i'm still holding off getting the upgrade mcr320...
03-20-2009, 09:51 AM
IanY

Gabe,

You have MCR120 Stacks coming to market?
03-20-2009, 11:02 AM
skinnee

Sweet...I have a bit of time then. I've been getting my butt kicked at work this week thanks to a lovely Telco. I'm behind on my test schedule and can hopefully make up some time this weekend and get the tests rolling on the MCR320 stack.
03-21-2009, 09:39 AM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by skinnee

Sweet...I have a bit of time then. I've been getting my butt kicked at work this week thanks to a lovely Telco. I'm behind on my test schedule and can hopefully make up some time this weekend and get the tests rolling on the MCR320 stack.

PLEASE BEAT US TO THE PUNCH ;-)
03-21-2009, 09:45 AM
gabe

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanY

Gabe,

You have MCR120 Stacks coming to market?

Yes we do, in fact they came in but we rejected them all for faulty paint. The new batch is coming sometimes within 2 weeks. If you have to have one, you can always call Michelle and buy a (cosmetic) reject.
03-21-2009, 10:15 AM
skinnee

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

PLEASE BEAT US TO THE PUNCH ;-)

I'm trying to. :up:
03-21-2009, 10:53 AM
axis

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabe

Yes we do, in fact they came in but we rejected them all for faulty paint. The new batch is coming sometimes within 2 weeks. If you have to have one, you can always call Michelle and buy a (cosmetic) reject.

Got any cosmetic reject 320's ?????

Axis

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