Intel i7 975 first showing Mikeguava/FUGGER

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Originally Posted by Hondacity

woah..what video card are you using? i wanna get the hx1000 but im not sure if it can run two gtx 295's

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It will run them easily. TDP is 289w per card.

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Originally Posted by FUGGER

Just dont call it a WR for derailed threads.

Ill see what I can do but no promises.

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are you going to IDF this year?

i heard Shangai was canceled but S. francisco were you invited fugger?

if you go just bring us the WR. if done it many times before well show

them how to do it once again. :up:

I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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Originally Posted by Kabauterman

I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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I was wondering this too. I would like to know who this CBGPCS is? Is he here or does someone know something about him.

This user have done some great scores lately, that's why I'm interested :up:

There are D0 ES CPU's already flowing in channels.. who will get them is a different story.

CBGPCS was a user of XS but he was banned.

I also seaching a while to know who he is but I don't find anything!

afaik there will not be d0 965.

and what is this ;)

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=828427

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Originally Posted by Kabauterman

and what is this ;)

http://www.hwbot.org/result.do?resultId=828427

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edit: ES but there shouldn't be retail d0 965..

5.2Ghz is not that great. I bet my chip will do about 5.1Ghz 32M. (C0)

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Originally Posted by SF3D

I was wondering this too. I would like to know who this CBGPCS is?

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custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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Originally Posted by G H Z

custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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Thanks Mark!

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Originally Posted by eva2000

If D0 runs cooler, it would be logically to say it uses less power too ?

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Actually, from a transistor point of view, it is the other way around, a "bad" leaking transistor will OC better, when you look for a good OC processor, you have to look for a processor that has high leakage, temperature and chilling the CPU is not a problem when you use LN2 or Chillers, your statement is true on air cooling or water cooling, all passive cooling.

now, the difference between stepping in term of OC is all about the designer of the transistor to tight up the timings between each Stepping. we try to improve timing between stepping because it does improve the frequency yield in our Fabs, it is a nice side effect that you guys enjoy every day.

This is all common knowledge for transistor circuitdesign engineer. :up:

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Originally Posted by Kabauterman

I see that CBGPCS in HwBOT benches with an 965 D0 ES
and I wondering about that because nobody else have such CPU?

I know the D0 comes out after CeBIT but are there no more ES than this "975" and that 965 in hwbot?

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he say have a tray of 24 chips
he told me about some results, but impossible to have any screen ...
and the resultat is strange..
05 ~5.31 /06 ~5.188 /vantage ~5250mhz ....
06 lower than vantage???and 05 only 50mhz of more??!!
i don't know if is the max,he just talk about these results on a chip

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Originally Posted by G H Z

custombuiltgamingpcs.com

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I Call shenanigans on them - they remind me of what was the company ? .... L PC?:down:

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

Actually, from a transistor point of view, it is the other way around, a "bad" leaking transistor will OC better, when you look for a good OC processor, you have to look for a processor that has high leakage, temperature and chilling the CPU is not a problem when you use LN2 or Chillers, your statement is true on air cooling or water cooling, all passive cooling.

now, the difference between stepping in term of OC is all about the designer of the transistor to tight up the timings between each Stepping. we try to improve timing between stepping because it does improve the frequency yield in our Fabs, it is a nice side effect that you guys enjoy every day.

This is all common knowledge for transistor circuitdesign engineer. :up:

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Interesting indeed .. thanks for the info :)

I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

^ well.. if Intel buys those cpus from eBay can't you know who sold them?

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

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Noted. I thought it was against eBay policy to sell ES chips. But then it is eBay where anything goes. Now why would anyone want to sell 975? I'd keep it money be damned!

--Chris

well, all ES samples are under NDA, and selling them is really the worst you can do, it goes under Industrial Espionage rulling, I can't obviously give details here, but I will be personally getting the proper autorization to stop this.
The seller, the person who is under NDA, and the buyer are taking risk.

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Originally Posted by Kabauterman

CBGPCS was a user of XS but he was banned.

I also seaching a while to know who he is but I don't find anything!

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He proposed us some 965D0 on msn ... but with very high price :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

well, all ES samples are under NDA, and selling them is really the worst you can do, it goes under Industrial Espionage rulling, I can't obviously give details here, but I will be personally getting the proper autorization to stop this.
The seller, the person who is under NDA, and the buyer are taking risk.

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No kidding, :doh:. My brain is getting lazy on a Sunday afternoon. Of course ES are NDA.:yepp:

Good luck!

--Chris

C'mon, I like Numb3rs ... it would be really cool if there was an XS episode :D

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

I see people trying to Sell Core i7 975 enginnering sample on ebay ...
This time, this is not going to end well.

Take my place, you are working on something really sexy, and somebody steel one and then go and sell it in your face on eBay.
This is going to turn into an epidode of Numb3rs ...

I am putting the means behind the lack of respect people are doing when trying to make profite on something they got like this.

it is not OK to buy it, it is not OK to sell it, both can cause you serious problems.

Be Aware.

Francois

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Glad I could help ;)

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Originally Posted by massman

C'mon, I like Numb3rs ... it would be really cool if there was an XS episode :D

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I also like Numb3rs Pieter :p:, I'm currently on last episodes of Season 3. Really nice ! :up:

I almost finished the 5th season ... excellent show.
In the case of the 2 ebay adds, well, we do not have great criminals here, they did leave many traces/finger prints, like walking around santa clara with a banner in their back saying "I sell Core i7 ES", the one on alibaba was a little more tricky, but i got it too. I have a chinese reading person next to me :)
I got all I need, Intel security will have fun tomorrow... :)

message for the dudes selling ES: Ne shi bendan .... or "ca va pas non?" lol ! (Sorry for the spelling, I speak only)