Deneb just around the corner?

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11-09-2008, 08:56 AM
informal

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Originally Posted by m411b

If everyone would just ignore this guy, I am positive he will go away. Possibly to AMDZone!
Everyone just ignore his uselessness. If he posts, just ignore it, do not respond. Don't give him the pleasure of a response unless it is to something useful and non-impuning to AMD or another user.

Good point m411b:up:
11-09-2008, 09:16 AM
demonkevy666

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Originally Posted by informal

Why are you worried? It seems you are not understanding the numbers in that report.AMD Shanghai 2P server working at 2.7Ghz is faster than 3Ghz 2P Harpertown system!What is better on intel side is the power draw since they use the 2x less RAM and Low Voltage edition of QC chips to post those 1000K scores(that still underperform in this particular test).They even use single socket intel quad core systems..
So in pure performance,a 2P Shanghai @2.7Ghz scores 338K,the same as 2P 3Ghz Harpertown.And still manages to have 20% lower power draw.The 1000 scores from intel camp are using less RAM(8GB versus 16 in AMD server) and are configured with a lot slower 45nm intel chips(2.5/2.66Ghz Harpertowns which in this test could be beaten with 2.3Ghz Shanghais).

that's insane to think about.

a 2.3ghz Shanghai beating a 2.5ghz harpertown.
11-09-2008, 09:33 AM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by Aussie FX

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...lains-shanghai

kinda odd. why would amd publish benchmarks showing the worst possible situation? but i know for a fact that amd is doing fine in the server market atm so theres no way their scores would be so low. who knows what they are up to.
11-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Rammsteiner

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Originally Posted by possessed

done:
This message is hidden because Chad Boga is on your ignore list.

But I like to read phanboi poasts!:ROTF: I cant be arsed to ignore people though, you ignore someone and then they just go cry over you while you cant read it. Meh:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by possessed

brw, nice mark
Posts: 666

I say, dont post anymore:p:
11-09-2008, 09:42 AM
m411b

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Originally Posted by Rammsteiner

I say, dont post anymore:p:

I thought about it, but just cant do it to yall! :D
666 is a good round number though, huh..
11-09-2008, 10:38 AM
soundood

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

The trolls are the imbeciles determined to turn this forum into a mirror image of the mentally disturbed AMDZone.

where you are moderator?

Chad have you thought of killing yourself and your family?

i donno it seems apt.

how are those voices anyway? still screaming at you? :rofl:
11-09-2008, 11:26 AM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by soundood

where you are moderator?

Chad have you thought of killing yourself and your family?

i donno it seems apt.

how are those voices anyway? still screaming at you? :rofl:

The kind of dribble that only seems to come from AMD fanatics.

How sad for you that you are so socially inept.
11-09-2008, 11:43 AM
knopflerbruce

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

The kind of dribble that only seems to come from AMD fanatics.

How sad for you that you are so socially inept.

Well, you continue posting in a forum where nobody wants to hear your useless, Intel-biased mumbo-jumbo. What does that tell us about YOUR social skills?:D
11-09-2008, 11:47 AM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by knopflerbruce

Well, you continue posting in a forum where nobody wants to hear your useless, Intel-biased mumbo-jumbo. What does that tell us about YOUR social skills?:D

What you are saying is incorrect on many fronts.

I reject the notion that this forum must be a mirror image of the idiocy that one sees at AMDZone.

This forum is for discussing AMD related matters, NOT simply drinking the AMD kool aid and only delivering gushing praise for AMD.

My understanding of this shows that I am normal and well balanced, but portrays my detractors in a very poor light, where illogical fanboyism is their stock in trade.
11-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Blaber

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

What you are saying is incorrect on many fronts.

I reject the notion that this forum must be a mirror image of the idiocy that one sees at AMDZone.

This forum is for discussing AMD related matters, NOT simply drinking the AMD kool aid and only delivering gushing praise for AMD.

My understanding of this shows that I am normal and well balanced, but portrays my detractors in a very poor light, where illogical fanboyism is their stock in trade.

Dude Just STFU and get lost to your intel section :mad: :moon:
11-09-2008, 12:43 PM
charged3800z24

Can we drop this yet... for fairness, I feel a lot of people did idg a litle deep intop Brad...I don't beleive he deserved all that he got..now blows have been traded back n' forth, but c'mon, This was a thread about Deneb "just around the corner?"..anyone with general discussion about the Deneb where abouts..feel free to tingle our senses :p:

sorry, I have a 6 yr old, 3 yr old, and a 7mth old going crazy over here..and this board is where I get away from all that.. and LOL...this board remeinds of my kids..
11-09-2008, 12:52 PM
Rammsteiner

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

sorry, I have a 6 yr old, 3 yr old, and a 7mth old going crazy over here..and this board is where I get away from all that.. and LOL...this board remeinds of my kids..

Hmmm... is this something to worry about or:p:
11-09-2008, 12:56 PM
charged3800z24

sinse we are off topic.. did anyone see this LOL
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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...10358&Itemid=1
11-09-2008, 02:03 PM
malice85

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

sinse we are off topic.. did anyone see this LOL
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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?op...10358&Itemid=1

"Self-Owned" is the first thing that came to my mind :rofl:

Fud is always good for a laugh :up:
11-09-2008, 02:32 PM
BertM

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profile page of cb

duh ? :D
11-09-2008, 02:35 PM
demonkevy666

Patience is a virtue
11-09-2008, 02:51 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by demonkevy666

Patience is a virtue

it may be one but i don;t got it :up:
11-09-2008, 03:03 PM
mockingbird

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

What you are saying is incorrect on many fronts.

I reject the notion that this forum must be a mirror image of the idiocy that one sees at AMDZone.

This forum is for discussing AMD related matters, NOT simply drinking the AMD kool aid and only delivering gushing praise for AMD.

My understanding of this shows that I am normal and well balanced, but portrays my detractors in a very poor light, where illogical fanboyism is their stock in trade.

OpenBSD founder Theo de Raadt publicly denounced Intel’s Core 2 processors on the OpenBSD mailing list. Raadt cited 38 pages of processor errata from Intel’s published CPU specifications (PDF).

“These processors are buggy as hell, and some of these bugs don’t just cause development/debugging problems, but will *ASSUREDLY* be exploitable from userland code," Raadt said. "Some of these are things that cannot be fixed in running code, and some are things that every operating system will do until about mid-2008, because that is how the MMU has always been managed on all generations of Intel/AMD/whoeverelse hardware."

This is why I will never buy a Core2Duo chip. Dothan is OK, but I don't touch core2duo or core2quad.
11-09-2008, 03:17 PM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by mockingbird

OpenBSD founder Theo de Raadt publicly denounced Intel’s Core 2 processors on the OpenBSD mailing list. Raadt cited 38 pages of processor errata from Intel’s published CPU specifications (PDF).

“These processors are buggy as hell, and some of these bugs don’t just cause development/debugging problems, but will *ASSUREDLY* be exploitable from userland code," Raadt said. "Some of these are things that cannot be fixed in running code, and some are things that every operating system will do until about mid-2008, because that is how the MMU has always been managed on all generations of Intel/AMD/whoeverelse hardware."

This is why I will never buy a Core2Duo chip. Dothan is OK, but I don't touch core2duo or core2quad.

More power to you. :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:
11-09-2008, 03:56 PM
charged3800z24

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

More power to you. :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:

In all seriousness....How Old are you??
:confused:
11-09-2008, 04:04 PM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

In all seriousness....How Old are you??
:confused:

Do you think the post I responded to was a credible one?
11-09-2008, 04:09 PM
roofsniper

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Do you think the post I responded to was a credible one?

most likely not because after reading that post it gives you the impression that core 2 chips are absolutely horrible when they are far from that.
11-09-2008, 04:24 PM
Jazzman

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Originally Posted by roofsniper

most likely not because after reading that post it gives you the impression that core 2 chips are absolutely horrible when they are far from that.

That's my take also. I think the author is pissed because open source systems don't get the respect from cpu manufacturers and/or the mobo manufacturers (i.e. bios updates) that are garnered from the big operating system companies (MS) and big application developers.

Also, I think as a result AMD probably tries harder which is why the TLB bug was such a BIG disappointment. My take is that the server business would not tolerate cpu errata that was not addressed by operating systems or mobo manufactures. (One wonders how much "accommodation" AMD gets in this area.) If AMD produced high fault cpus, then Sys Admins would drop AMD in a heartbeat and kill the AMD business model. :bsod:
11-09-2008, 04:41 PM
charged3800z24

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Originally Posted by Chad Boga

Do you think the post I responded to was a credible one?

no, I was just asking....you seem a bit bent on hanging around here and not adding anything usefull...not that everyone here has acted completely mature..but stil.....
11-09-2008, 05:03 PM
Chad Boga

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Originally Posted by charged3800z24

no, I was just asking....you seem a bit bent on hanging around here and not adding anything usefull...not that everyone here has acted completely mature..but stil.....

So I am supposed to let a gang of morons run me out of town?

Wake up for :banana::banana::banana::banana:'s sakes.

You are not being consistent in respect of other posters by the standards you are judging me on and because of that, I feel no need nor is there a need, for me to justify myself to you.

I shouldn't need to point out that because I had the temerity to think Deneb would only get a 10% IPC boost, that this has attracted an insane level of vitriol being directed at me by various nutjobs and you are falling into the trap of being their useful idiot.

Step out of the Twilight Zone people.

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