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06-25-2008, 01:46 PM
Philip_J_Fry

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...nce/page16.asp

wow the overclocking result looks awesome. 4870 @ 790/1100 is almost an GTX 280! almost that is
06-25-2008, 01:47 PM
Peakr

Looks like nVidia shot themselves in the foot on this one. And thank god too. $650 for a video card...Please. No wonder they rushed em out b4 the 4000's. See how many suckers they could reel in for an extra 3fps. Great job AMD. I'll take one and later on when I need more horsepower I'll buy another and stick them in my INTEL mobo.
06-25-2008, 01:57 PM
Philip_J_Fry

lol some what true i suppose, but the 280 does have good DX10 performance, it just that for $650 and about 1.6 years after G80 i am expecting a lot more though ....

and again thank god i didnt rush out and buy one ... especially now that ebay has a 10% off on 1 purchase deal ends b4 june 30th ... i almost bought one lol

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Originally Posted by Peakr

and stick them in my INTEL mobo.

yeah i cant wait to get my intel board and am read to ditch sli
06-25-2008, 01:59 PM
waver_01

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Originally Posted by ceevee

Perkam,

My issue is with the posters who are claiming that ATI has won the ultimate performance crown over and over in this thread and hurling personal insults at anyone who doesn't agree with them.

ATI has not won the ultimate performance crown. I am not talking about price, or die size or anything other than the fact that Nvidia is still number 1 for the highest maximum performance.

:rofl:

ATi has the single card performance crown with the 4870X2, which is all that
matters
06-25-2008, 02:00 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Thanks for the compliments guys. Believe it or not, I appreciate the feedback from the community much more than anything a manufacturer can say. Glad to know the review is going to good use.

This depends on quite a few factors such as:

- space between PCI-E slots
- Height of fan
- Orientation of HR-03

You can mount the HR-03 in two ways; one wrapped around the card with the heatpipes "straddling" the card and one like the way I installed it.

It takes up a total of 4 slots.

Kudos to the review, well laid out and nice format, and test rig :D I m really glad you showed what can be accomplished with an aftermarket cooling solution... Its too bad no one could get a 260gtx to you guys hehe.

I m pretty impressed with these results as a whole, especially in cod4 which is where i spend my time :) I ll wait it out though until the 4870x2 comes out, as my gx2 is still holding on ok for now :)
06-25-2008, 02:13 PM
golden_boy

so many reviews and none used s.t.a.l.k.e.r. numbers:confused:
"au pair" of falout 3, clear sky is the game that i'm anxiously waiting and it still uses x-ray engine:rolleyes:

regards
06-25-2008, 02:17 PM
Jowy Atreides

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip_J_Fry

http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...nce/page16.asp

wow the overclocking result looks awesome. 4870 @ 790/1100 is almost an GTX 280! almost that is

I'm sure the 1GB versions will sort that out,
since most bench tests were done with high res+AA

the 280 has a 512mb advantage and the 4870 still has equally good AA hit
06-25-2008, 02:19 PM
GoldiClocks

Quote:

Originally Posted by waver_01

:rofl:

ATi has the single card performance crown with the 4870X2, which is all that
matters

Sure, 4870x2 might be a nice card WHEN it actually becomes available, but ceevee was talking about the fastest single card solution that you can buy RIGHT NOW (regardless of price or anything).

But, sure, if you know a place where you can buy the 4870x2 atm, please do link it here, I'm sure there would be lot of people interested in it. :p:

It's really kinda amazing how heated this whole discussion about nvidia and ATI gets here, looking the whole thing from a cold neutral standpoint is so much more interesting compared to the other option that is labeling yourself as a soldier for either side.
And yes, I think it is awesome that ATI finally has some good cards on the market.
06-25-2008, 02:27 PM
Mr.BSEL

Looking at the reviews, I've yet to seen the shader clock overclocked separately like the rumors suggested.

Do you know if it's possible or will we have to wait for new drivers?
06-25-2008, 02:29 PM
DefStar

Just set up PayPal and eBay, im selling my 8800gtx and getting 4870 FTW!
06-25-2008, 02:42 PM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by v_rr

It´s prety obvious, but I won´t go in those predictions :)

For this quarter nothing will change. Only for the next 2 quarters.
AMD is targeting 50% in discrete desktop until the end of the year, that´s the only thing that I know they want.
I think that they will do that with HD 4800. Strong performance/low prices is the key and they have conditions to done well that.

wise choice not to pull off a sharikou. :rofl:
06-25-2008, 02:43 PM
annihilat0r

Any volt modders for the 4870? How much can the stock card with the cooler be overclocked?

I guess this card can go to about 800MHz with a stock cooler. With a nice cooling solution added (like that in HardwareCanucks), I guess it can be a lot better with voltmod since Canucks showed a LOAD temperature of only 44C. With volt modding so as to DOUBLE that temperature I guess some amazing overclocks can be achieved?
06-25-2008, 03:07 PM
TurboDiv

Only 50mhz more on the core than stock ? I am used to my nvidia to do like at least 100mhz on top of stock. :rolleyes:
06-25-2008, 03:18 PM
p0tter

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Originally Posted by TurboDiv

Only 50mhz more on the core than stock ? I am used to my nvidia to do like at least 100mhz on top of stock. :rolleyes:

Thats because nVidia should have given you that +100mhz anyways. No wonder there are so many OC versions.
06-25-2008, 03:19 PM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by golden_boy

so many reviews and none used s.t.a.l.k.e.r. numbers:confused:
"au pair" of falout 3, clear sky is the game that i'm anxiously waiting and it still uses x-ray engine:rolleyes:

regards

This might help ....

http://pclab.pl/zdjecia/artykuly/pil...alker-1920.png
06-25-2008, 03:26 PM
Isaac MM

Why the lack of 19x12 benches Hardware Canucks?
06-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Xope_Poquar

2x 4870s is cheaper than 1x GTX 280, and much much faster. Is there any reason to get the GTX 280 unless you're planning to go SLI?
06-25-2008, 03:43 PM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xope_Poquar

2x 4870s is cheaper than 1x GTX 280, and much much faster. Is there any reason to get the GTX 280 unless you're planning to go SLI?

im sure "people" who want to will find a reason... really? no there isnt unless they lower their prices by a couple hundred dollars its not very attractive..
06-25-2008, 03:45 PM
JohnJohn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xope_Poquar

2x 4870s is cheaper than 1x GTX 280, and much much faster. Is there any reason to get the GTX 280 unless you're planning to go SLI?

Nope :shrug::shrug:
06-25-2008, 03:49 PM
jcool

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I don't think anyone expected the 4870 to beat the GTX260. It is amazing that a 260mm^2 chip could do that to a 560mm^2 chip.

Well, it doesn't beat the GTX 260, they are on par, with the GTX offering the more consistent performance. Of course, the 4870's value is much better.
06-25-2008, 03:52 PM
Isaac MM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xope_Poquar

2x 4870s is cheaper than 1x GTX 280, and much much faster. Is there any reason to get the GTX 280 unless you're planning to go SLI?

Not having to deal with scaling, problems with crossfire, microstuttering, drive problems and still getting a huge performance, is that enough?
06-25-2008, 03:53 PM
Caparroz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.BSEL

Looking at the reviews, I've yet to seen the shader clock overclocked separately like the rumors suggested.

Do you know if it's possible or will we have to wait for new drivers?

That should be the most retarded rumour of the year. Whoever told you this was either bs'ing you or was just plain stupid. Although RV770 and G200 have arch's similarities, they have radically different approaches to it. Check out anand's review to get a glimpse of them. And no, there is not a shader domain and core domain clocks in RV770.

Wow, the 4870 will be my next card for sure. Upgrading to 4850 would be useless to me so I was considering a GTX260 but the 4870 destroys it once you crank up resolution and AA (that's the point of these cards, anyway) and for $100 less. I'm amazed... didn't see it coming. To put it simply, Nvidia should just abort the GTX260. There's no reason for it to exist unless it's priced around $279.
06-25-2008, 03:56 PM
GoldiClocks

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xope_Poquar

2x 4870s is cheaper than 1x GTX 280, and much much faster. Is there any reason to get the GTX 280 unless you're planning to go SLI?

For sake of argument I'll be the first one to pitch in some points:

1. You really like nVidia.
2. You like the idea of being free from the possible crossfire woes in certain games due to having just one core.
3. You only have one pcie slot with appropriate speed. (though I would consider this to be no biggie to fix if you have the money for the GTX280 handy in the first place.)
4. You like the premise of having a PhysX accelerator capable graphics card.

edit: damn, I was beaten by Isaac..
06-25-2008, 03:56 PM
virtualrain

A pair of 4870x2's in CF on a Nehalem motherboard will be the combo to beat this fall.

I can't wait to say Bye-bye to my crappy NVIDIA chipset.

:yepp:
06-25-2008, 04:00 PM
Aberration

IMO if you look at the die size, ATi could expand the core to match that of the GTX280, and it would stamp it. Of course then you would be looking at a card that cost about the same amount.

Regardless though, because of the performance that the ATi is getting and because it is so much smaller of a die, they are going to make a killing.

Good on them. They need it.

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