Takes some of the appeal away from it, doesn't it? As much as I thought 4 X 4 or as I like to call it $ X $ is compat with K-10. Still *might suck LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
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Takes some of the appeal away from it, doesn't it? As much as I thought 4 X 4 or as I like to call it $ X $ is compat with K-10. Still *might suck LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Yeah. Everytime I see something awesome for it, I'm like OMG :banana::banana::banana::banana:ing awesome! Then the reality sets in. It's pretty much a dead end for upgrades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
Although since everybody has to buy new mobos for Nehalem it isn't too bad. And I'm sure the majority of people here buy new mobos whenever they completely revamp their rig...It's like you get SkullTrail, you have an enormous amount of power at your disposal, then Nehalem, the biggest architecture change since Pentium Pro comes along...
People with 4 x 4 right now are screwed. They can't pop in a Barcelona because it's not supported :rofl: And it looks like Asus doesn't want to make new BIOS for it.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
mine is quite hot indeed, but it's really not a problem I can keep my finger on it, I've seen worse. though I'm using the stock cooling, I just changed the stock crappy paste which didn't make good contact for as5 and it's ok even passive cooledQuote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
I don't see a need to change of mobo just for that temp "problem" right now. I'll consider changing when needed with nehalem, P965 is sufficient for me atm. P35 and X38 don't bring so much new performances or else to give me enough arguments to upgrade.
Well P35 chipset doesn't run HOT here Donnie though the X38 is at 47°C (400FSB at 1.32 volts ) , I already removed the thermal paste form Asus on the Maximus ( what a pain that was ) and it dropped temps on theh NB/SB by about 5°C, I'll prolly hook up the fuzion block to the WC loop to see what happens as some users reported temps at 450FSB with 1.6 volts at 35°C... it's clearly to me this chipset (X38) needs loads more voltage then the P35 to reach same FSB, but if you came from a 680i these temps seem like a Gods blessing lol
I've already played with the Gigabyte version of the P35, that's why I been way and not replied. My 3rd shot at it BTW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacha
I didn't look at P35 for strictly performance. I looked at getting one for it's features and running Penryn without overclocking an already hot@ssed P965 Chipset. I also liked the idea of PCI-E 2.0, slightly tweaked SATA and I/O but hey!
I love XtremeSystems.org just like the Guy who watches every Drag Race at the track, then gets into his Sport Sedan or Truck;) What you're saying is why I looked at the P35, yet, its being obsolete when Nehalem ships is not looking good. I think I'll wait for P45 and P48 LOL! Now I might go looking for a Q6600 G0 or etc....Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Don't we all love Extreme, I learned so many things here, incredible source of knowledge... I'm pretty lucky as I work parttime in a hardware shop and assemble loads of rigs for friends and co, I usually buy stuff when I can get rid of my used hardware... this gives me the opportunity to test the latest hardware... but to be honest if my P5W did my current Q6600's like it did my E6400 I would have never left it, it was so stable and easy to setup ran for months trouble free till those power outtages took place in my street, wrecked my whole pc, board went in for RMA and I jumped on the Striker...things got way more complicated there lol...
As far as performance differences clock for clock there nothing much new compared to the good old 975...
skulltrail here i come. gonna get 2 9450 to run in my 3dcad/cam/maya/gaming computer good i wont have to wait a long time to render i mean 8 cores vs the singles i have to use at my school one can only dream of the possibilities
its gona be interesting to see how you cram 2 S775 cpus into 2 S771. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalpetres
I don't think he is too well informed...or that he chooses not to read the info...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
http://resources.vr-zone.com/floppyi...Skulltrail.JPG
There ya go!
You mean you can't just cut off four pins?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Damn, I've been doing it wrong all this time!:shrug:
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I'm saving up my pennies for the Socket 1366 version with Native NUMA, CSI and etc..............:D
What do you think they'll call it by then? Death Bringer? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Donnie27
It was a typo was kinda dark and was a bit tipsy. An yes i know skulltrail is the 771 pin like the xeon processors, but hey i can always do like this kid did except to my cpu: :D http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=396 :rofl:
Armageddon? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
no they wont do more pins it will be crystals like stargate :D
Ehh something more sinister :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
EE, for Eerie Edition, maybe :p:
What is the default Vcore of the new 45nm processors?
sort of 1.360vQuote:
Originally Posted by Richard Dower
hu, i thought it was more something like 1.2xV?
edit: yep its something in the 1.2V Range (1,26 for the 3ghz extreme core)
so do I
Yorkfield datasheet
http://ads.hardocp.com/penryn/Yorkfi...v%2001.rar
Kentsfield datasheet
http://www.intel.com/design/processo...hts/315592.htm
Hmm. I just bought a Q6600 a couple days ago that I haven't touched yet. (It is a G0 SLACR) Should I send that bad boy back and chew my cud and wait for the Q9450 or just go ahead with my planned system build with the Q6600? What do you guys think? :eek:
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Intel Launches 16 45nm Penryn Based Processors
Built using an entirely new transistor formula that alleviates the wasteful electricity leaks that threaten the pace of future computer innovation, Intel Corporation today unveiled 16 server and high-end PC processors. In addition to increasing computer performance and saving energy use, these processors also eliminate eco-unfriendly lead and, in 2008, halogen materials.
Called the biggest transistor advancements in 40 years by Intel Co-Founder Gordon Moore, the processors are the first to use Intel's Hafnium-based high-k metal gate (Hi-k) formula for the hundreds of millions of transistors inside these processors. These Intel Core 2 Extreme and Xeon processors are also the first to be manufactured on the company's 45-nanometer (nm) manufacturing process, further boosting performance and lowering power consumption.
Combining these two advancements with new processor features enables Intel to continue delivering faster and more energy-efficient processors that are better for the environment. The breakthroughs clear the path for Intel to design products that are 25 percent smaller than previous versions and, thus, more cost-effective, as well as the ability next year to pursue new ultra mobile and consumer electronics "system on chip" opportunities.
"The intellects, physics and designs that went into solving one of the industry's most daunting challenges are awe-inspiring and I congratulate the Intel teams for this breakthrough achievement," said Paul Otellini, Intel president and CEO. "Best yet, this feat, coupled with our industry-leading architectures, means faster and sleeker computers, longer battery life and better energy efficiency. Our objective is to bring consumers a new class of computers delivering a full Internet experience in ever-smaller, more portable form factors."
The new 45nm (a nanometer is 1 billionth of a meter) processors boast nearly twice the transistor density of previous chips built on the company's 65nm technology – that is up to 820 million transistors for quad-core processors, each using Intel's new formula.
New High-End Desktop Processor
The Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 quad core processor, the world's first 45nm Hi-k desktop processor, delivers more of the adrenaline that hardcore gamers and media enthusiasts demand. Enhancements such as a larger L2 cache and support for new Intel SSE4 media instructions help bring desktop performance to "extreme" new levels.
"One of our goals was to optimize Crysis in order to deliver the ultimate quality, bringing mind-blowing game play to the latest hardware," said Dr. Douglas Binks, R&D manager, Crytek. "With the new 45nm Hi-k Intel Core 2 Extreme processors, we use multi-core technology to enable physics, particle effects and audio on separate cores, helping Crysis to create an astounding gaming experience."
Family of 45nm Server Processors; World-Record Speed
New to the Intel line-up of server processors are 15 server dual-core and quad-core 45nm Hi-k Intel Xeon processors. The 12 new quad-core chips boast clock speeds ranging from 2GHz up to 3.20GHz, with front side bus speeds (FSB) up to 1600MHz, and cache sizes of 12MB. The three new dual-core chips feature clock speeds of up to 3.40GHz, an FSB of up to 1600MHz, and cache sizes of 6MB.
The 45nm Hi-k Intel Xeon processors are compatible with server platforms using the Intel 5000 chipset family. In addition, Intel is launching three platform solutions to support 45nm processors, including:
- The Intel 5400 chipset-based platform (previously codenamed "Stoakley") that is optimized for high-bandwidth applications such as high-performance computing (HPC).
- The Intel 5100 Memory Controller Hub chipset and Intel ICH-9R I/O controller (previously codenamed "Cranberry Lake"). These are cost-optimized solutions that support either one or two processors and also provide reduced power consumption using native DDR2 memory.
- The Intel 3200 chipset-based platform (previously codenamed "Garlow") that is specifically designed for single-processor entry servers.
The 45nm Hi-k Quad-Core Intel Xeon processor 5400 series sets a number of world records on key industry-standard benchmarks. A HP Proliant DL380 G5 Server sets a new TPC-C mark with a score of 273,666 tpmC and an SAP-SD record with a score of 2449 SD-Users. A Dell PowerEdge 2950 server running BEA JRockit JVM delivered a record-breaking SPECjbb2005 result of 303130 BOPS. Dell also sets a new virtualization performance record on VMmark benchmark running VMWare ESX Server with a score of 8.47 at 6 tiles. Using a PRIMERGY RX300 S4 Server, Fujitsu-Siemens set a new SPECint_rate2006 record with a score of 138.
Additionally, the 5400 series chipset-based platform with 1600 MHz Front Side Bus sets new world records on key high-performance computing and bandwidth-intensive benchmarks including the SPECfp_rate2006 benchmark that measures floating point throughput performance. World records were also achieved in key HPC benchmarks, including Fluent, LS-Dyna, SPECOMP2001 and Abaqus. For detailed system and testing information on these and other performance benchmarks, visit http://www.intel.com/performance/ser...on/summary.htm.
Intel's 45nm Hi-k Xeon processors also extend performance-per-watt leadership by delivering an improvement of 38 percent1 over its previous-generation Quad-Core Xeon 5300 Series processors.
The move from 65nm to 45nm involves more than just a shrink of current chip designs. The processors include such additional features as new Intel Streaming SIMD Extensions 4 (SSE4), which are 47 new instructions that speed up workloads including video encoding for high-definition and photo manipulation, as well as key HPC and enterprise applications. Software vendors supporting the new SSE4 instruction set include Adobe, Microsoft and Symantec.
Additional processor performance enhancing architectural features include:
- Enhanced Intel Virtualization Technology -- Virtual machine transition (entry/exit) times are improved by an average of 25 to 75 percent through hardware with no changes to software required.
- Fast Division of Numbers – A fast divider roughly doubles the speed over previous generations for computations used in nearly all applications through a technique called Radix 16. The ability to divide instructions and commands faster increases a computer's performance.
- Unique Super Shuffle Engine -- By implementing a wider 128-bit shuffle unit, performance significantly improves for SSE-related instructions that have shuffle-like operations. This feature will increase performance for content creation, imaging, video and high-performance computing.
Pricing of the 45nm Hi-k Intel Xeon processors depends on the model, speeds, features and amount ordered, and ranges from $177 to $1,279 in quantities of 1,000. The 45nm Hi-k Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 quad core processor is priced at $999 in quantities of 1,000. Depending on the model, these processors are available today or within 45 days. Further information is available at www.intel.com/pressroom/kits/45nm.
Source: Intel
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