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06-14-2007, 02:27 AM
qpsko

Can I install Scythe Ninja on ga-p35c-ds3r with no problems?
06-14-2007, 04:10 AM
AshkenAZoNi

can someone tell me the overclocking capabilities of the P35-S3?

thanx mates.
06-14-2007, 05:31 AM
Brama

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazC

I started to suspect the NB as the ram was running slower than my last stable oc so I whipped the Heatpipe off and saw a very sorry sight - only 1/3rd of the thermal pad on the NB was making contact and the 1/3rd that had been making contact was bone dry.

Is it easy to remove the heatpipe and dissipators?
I have same issue (strange instability) in my DQ6 and I have to check what you discovered.
06-14-2007, 07:43 AM
Florent

I've just received a P35C-DS3R and I tested the memory wall.
I reached 737,9Mhz :http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=207971
then my DFI P965-S, I reached 757,9Mhz with the same memory :shrug:

Moreover, I measured Vdimm with Multimeter and with +0,7V (normally 2,6V), I've 2,85V :eek:
06-14-2007, 08:47 AM
XtremeTiramisu

Hello P35 Giga owners:

After my unsatisfied experience with the Asus P5K-Deluxe, I'm thinking of switching the board to one of the higher end Giga P35 boards.

I've a few questions to ask here:

1. Does the 12phase P35 DQ6 really that better than 6phase P35 DS3P in terms of better future compatibility for quad-cores? If it's just for C2D, how much differences will there be btw the two?

2. How's the quality of the stock heatpipe based heatsinks on the DQ6? Is it firmly seated on top of the MOSFETs and NB/SB?? Did you had go through the hassel of removing them and reapply the thermal paste??
**Will a backplate based heatsink like the popular "Zalman" CNPS series CPU cooler fit with the DQ6's "Crazy Cool" back plate on the back of the DQ6's mobo??

3. I've read through all 6 pages on this thread and I'm still not too jumping up and down about the DQ6 or DS3P. Performance and stability wise, how do you think your boards compare to the Asus P5K-Deluxe NOW and in the FUTURE? (One thing I read is that the DQ6 is cooler than P5K-Dlx, especially in the MOSFET areas)

4. Any known major flaw in DQ6 or DS3P's overclockability? future BIOS fixable?

5. Asus P5K-Deluxe has a wonderful feature called "CPU Voltage Damper" and every PK5-Dlx owners including myself find it really works wonders, literally little to none "Vdroop" at all. I wonder how's the Vdroop on the DQ6 or DS3P in particular??

Much appreciated your help and suggestions :)
06-14-2007, 09:17 AM
rithina

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu

Hello P35 Giga owners:

After my unsatisfied experience with the Asus P5K-Deluxe, I'm thinking of switching the board to one of the higher end Giga P35 boards.

I've a few questions to ask here:

1. Does the 12phase P35 DQ6 really that better than 6phase P35 DS3P in terms of better future compatibility for quad-cores? If it's just for C2D, how much differences will there be btw the two?

Same to me.. makes no diff no matter how many phase.

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2. How's the quality of the stock heatpipe based heatsinks on the DQ6? Is it firmly seated on top of the MOSFETs and NB/SB?? Did you had go through the hassel of removing them and reapply the thermal paste??
**Will a backplate based heatsink like the popular "Zalman" CNPS series CPU cooler fit with the DQ6's "Crazy Cool" back plate on the back of the DQ6's mobo??

DQ6 heatpipe is very cool enough. NO need to apply or replace any thermal paste

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3. I've read through all 6 pages on this thread and I'm still not too jumping up and down about the DQ6 or DS3P. Performance and stability wise, how do you think your boards compare to the Asus P5K-Deluxe NOW and in the FUTURE? (One thing I read is that the DQ6 is cooler than P5K-Dlx, especially in the MOSFET areas)

P5K > DQ6 > DS3 if you want to overclock.

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4. Any known major flaw in DQ6 or DS3P's overclockability? future BIOS fixable?

DQ6 have NB strap at 417 FSB which u need a good multiplier cpu

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5. Asus P5K-Deluxe has a wonderful feature called "CPU Voltage Damper" and every PK5-Dlx owners including myself find it really works wonders, literally little to none "Vdroop" at all. I wonder how's the Vdroop on the DQ6 or DS3P in particular??

DQ6 don't have this feature but the vdroop is almost the same as having damper on

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Much appreciated your help and suggestions :)
06-14-2007, 09:37 AM
XtremeTiramisu

Thank you VERY MUCH Rithina for the generous reply, that was quick!

Yes, I'm awared of the FSB strap at 417 but just wondering how much higher do you need to go above FSB417 to cover the lost of memory bandwidth starting FSB417?

For example in the Asus P5B-Dlx, FSB Strap starts at 401 and FSB400 has the greatest amount of memory bandwidth and an user has to go all the way pass FSB450 ~ 466 to be able to acheive the same memory bandwidth as at FSB400.

If you've overlook at the graph and u've a graph in mind, you should know the curve I'm talking about :)

Thanks again
06-14-2007, 09:43 AM
rithina

Quote:

Originally Posted by XtremeTiramisu

Thank you VERY MUCH Rithina for the generous reply, that was quick!

Yes, I'm awared of the FSB strap at 417 but just wondering how much higher do you need to go above FSB417 to cover the lost of memory bandwidth starting FSB417?

For example in the Asus P5B-Dlx, FSB Strap starts at 401 and FSB400 has the greatest amount of memory bandwidth and an user has to go all the way pass FSB450 ~ 466 to be able to acheive the same memory bandwidth as at FSB400.

If you've overlook at the graph and u've a graph in mind, you should know the curve I'm talking about :)

Thanks again

ya P5B deluxe is 400 but P5k start at 500 afaik.. but the soon release bios i heard you can change the strap for P5K..but gigabyte there is no details yet.

I used DQ6 and P5k D....and I choose to keep my P5K D instead.. I am not saying DQ6 is bad but a matter of preference :D
06-14-2007, 02:10 PM
GazC

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brama

Is it easy to remove the heatpipe and dissipators?
I have same issue (strange instability) in my DQ6 and I have to check what you discovered.

remove the motherboard if it is installed

remove the screws fro the nb and sb (you'll need to remove the stickdown plate on top of the nd heatsink), there is a back plate on the sb that you need to keep an eye on.

use pliers to remove the push-pins from the mobo on the mosfet sinks.

remove the heatpipe assembly

Assembly is reverse of removal - easy!
06-14-2007, 02:58 PM
Richard Dower

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OK, so i am using beta F5g bios and have upgraded to the Corsair PC2-8500 (1066Mhz) memory as recomended on the Gigabyte QVL. I've come to the conclusion that my CPU is limiting my FSB and won't go above 450FSB....no matter what setings/voltages pumped through bios.

I can get 3.4GHz ok, thats still pretty good considering...maybe if i pumped 1.5-1.6V through the Vcore i get higher...but those voltages scare me.

My ethos is, the best performance with as little voltage mods as possible. So i've been working on the memory and FSB/DRAM ratios to see where i can get.

So right now i'm at 3.420GHz with 380x9 and 1.400V Vcore. Memory is running at 1140MHz with 2.250V. I'm using the 3.00 ratio in bios. Performance set to Standard, not sure about setting Turbo...possible stability issues when overclocking?

Can someone take a look at my Everest benchmarks and see if it's good or bad?
06-14-2007, 03:25 PM
AshkenAZoNi

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshkenAZoNi

can someone tell me the overclocking capabilities of the P35-S3?

thanx mates.

:( :( :(
06-14-2007, 03:32 PM
megatron

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshkenAZoNi

:( :( :(

I assume its the same deal with p965-ds3 vs p965-s3 i.e. no difference.
06-14-2007, 04:27 PM
Ar3s

Quote:

Originally Posted by rithina

ya P5B deluxe is 400 but P5k start at 500 afaik.. but the soon release bios i heard you can change the strap for P5K..but gigabyte there is no details yet.

I used DQ6 and P5k D....and I choose to keep my P5K D instead.. I am not saying DQ6 is bad but a matter of preference :D

hi princess itchy ! :clap:
06-14-2007, 11:18 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by AshkenAZoNi

can someone tell me the overclocking capabilities of the P35-S3?

thanx mates.

just ordered some mushkin 8500 i'll do some more testin next week

the board is great so far my memory suks lol
06-15-2007, 12:51 AM
Viss

Quote:

Originally Posted by Florent

I've just received a P35C-DS3R and I tested the memory wall.
I reached 737,9Mhz :http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=207971
then my DFI P965-S, I reached 757,9Mhz with the same memory :shrug:

Moreover, I measured Vdimm with Multimeter and with +0,7V (normally 2,6V), I've 2,85V :eek:

Same here kinda. I thought memory would clock a little better on P35C compared to Commando but its about he same. P35C seems a bit slower though but i need to work on the subtimings. Vdimm overvolts as wel. Didnt check with dimm but speedfan gives:

+0.2 = 2.11v
+0.3 = 2.22v
+0.4 = 2.37v
+0.5 = 2.48v

P35C F3b
E6600 & tuniq tower
Vdimm + 0.4
Vmch +0.1

8x500 5/6 divider 4-4-4-4:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p35C600mhz.jpg

9x444 2/3 divider 5-5-5-10
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...p35C666mhz.jpg

Same settings but on Commando :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1M4g555mhz.jpg
06-15-2007, 03:55 AM
ukveld

What bios are you guys using on your DQ6?
06-15-2007, 05:26 AM
Brama

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazC

remove the motherboard if it is installed

remove the screws fro the nb and sb ................

Assembly is reverse of removal - easy!

Thanks!
I have done everything but I have still problem with Orthios that eruptes after less than 30 seconds.

I will work on it this WE.
06-15-2007, 05:29 AM
Brama

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukveld

What bios are you guys using on your DQ6?

Now I am using F5g but this WE I will retest F5c and F3 as I have problems of Orthos instability with my Corsair Dominator 8500 C5D.
06-15-2007, 05:51 AM
yenclas

Good news to P35-DS4 owners.

I wrote to Gigabyte support because I have a problem when I start my computer. When system scans HD's I see a message that says AHCI BIOS Not Installed.

In a week they response to me to try a new BIOS: F5d. The problem continues but I have a huge improvement in memory performance in Everest with this new BIOS.

With F3 I had 8600 and now, with F5d I have 9500

Anyone know why bios shows AHCI BIOS Not Installed ???

Thanks !
06-15-2007, 03:17 PM
Richard Dower

I got a new beta bios for the P35-DQ6...F5x...hello?, "X"...what the hell?
I must try it, maybe it was relabeled or something.
06-15-2007, 03:33 PM
Richard Dower

New P35-DQ6 review, also note...i'm told that GB will update the pdf manual to include some new info and clarification on certain points, such as dual bios and why GB have locked out flashing of the backup bios etc.

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?o...=580&Itemid=56
06-15-2007, 03:54 PM
Ar3s

does the p35 dq6 have any issues with intel ich9r raid controller ? cause my p965 dq6 goes crazy with the intel ich8r raid controller.
06-15-2007, 03:56 PM
zsamz_

i wonder why only f2 bios for the p35-sd3r
it would be nice to have vdm adjustents by +.05 n not only +.1
hopefully we get a part of the dq6 bios
06-15-2007, 04:52 PM
Richard Dower

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Weird, bios was labeled F5x....and in QFlash the file showed as F5x...but once flashed a POST screen shows F5 as does Everest/CPU-Z/Sandra 2007 etc.

Bios is dated the same as F5g...maybe a new bios spin later in the day or perhaps this is official F5?

:confused:
06-15-2007, 04:53 PM
Richard Dower

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ar3s

does the p35 dq6 have any issues with intel ich9r raid controller ? cause my p965 dq6 goes crazy with the intel ich8r raid controller.

I haven't experienced any issues, see sig for drives used.

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