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Hmm with 1,4 * 113% in Bios i got 36° idle an 50-54 load @2950mhz, eve stock clocks/volts idle is 31° and load 41°. I'am on water cooling and my venice 3200+@2800mhz@1,62v did 25°idle and 43° load. So what the f**k is goin on here :) . I'am too scared to remove the heatspreader :( Anyone ideas how to burnin ? I mean prime fails after 10 mins @ 2980 and these volts. Another problem is that vcore fluctuates 0.2v, did i listed all the problems ? Yes i think i've got it all ;)
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Originally Posted by Rohan
You need more vcore for sure. I don't think with the vcore your using yours is that bad. You are the only one with a CABYE thats posted a 32m ss. That means you are at least pretty stable. The other ss of the CABYEs are only 1m or 8m, along ways from 32m. When the 32m ss come in we will have a better idea how they oc.
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Originally Posted by ic3m4n2005
Iceman do you have an CABNE or CABGE?
CABNE not need much Vcore for high Frequences. But they heat very good.
Here a Pic under Load of my CABNE on AIrcooling.
http://img438.imageshack.us/img438/1...st25m5c.th.jpg
can 2 hours of Prime compare to SP32M? I gotta get back to CS:S so no time for Prime:pQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1...15x97il.th.jpg
update: here is the 32MB :toast:
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8...25x90ue.th.jpg
Im burning my 144 and so far, its getting better :)
i left it on CPU burn in last night for 5 hours with 1.54V 2.9GHz and did a 32M run with these settings now.....i'd say 1.52V would probably do the job as well.......it's a slooooooow time.....lots of tweaking ahead :)
http://img433.imageshack.us/img433/7...zdivider0b.jpg
Yes, 2 hrs of prime is stable, it's more then I want to do. I would just like to see 32m run, it doesn't take 2hrs and it shows some stability. No knock on your prime. :) One thing for sure, burning does help.Quote:
Originally Posted by ken
That looks good, with some burning you got a good chip. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
WHERE DO I ORDER THIS CHIP?
Sorry for the caps but can anyone please tell me? thanks.. :slapass:
No shouting. :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Justinkoko
If we knew, we would tell you. If you have read any in the AMD section, you will see they are very hard to find. When they do come in stock, they sell out right away.
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Originally Posted by dogsx2
Where all these people buy then? black market? :confused:
Yes....the black market.
Well, some of us got it from a private dealer who's all out while others buy it when a store that has it in stock is found. All stores are currently out of stock.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Yeah, I'm thinking of getting an ultra-D, so I can get more vcore, and also get the most out of my RAM. Currently using Patriot TCCD, but it's wasted on this board as if I use a higher divider, I'm stuck with 2T. I also have some Twinmos I can use (UTT I think).Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
As far as SuperPi goes, I think it's misleading to use it as a stability test. Highest prime I can do is 2.7Ghz. Highest 32M superpi is at 2.75GHz, but prime fails instantly at this speed. 1M superpi reaches 2.8GHz. So prime95 is the only stability test I would trust for 24/7 settings.
Just to check....everyone with an Opteron is running 7.5ns as the Pre-amble setting, right?
It's good for finding how well your processor can do and gives a big boost over AUTO (typically--my auto defaults to 7ns :rolleyes: ).
You could use a different mb for sure,Quote:
Originally Posted by Rohan
I don't want to get into the prime debate, I thought we were showing ss of our new optys? For that 32m does show some stability. However much testing you want to do for your 24/7 is up to you. No matter how long you run prime, it could have failed 1 minute after you end it if you would have left it running.
i've used 7ns ..............do you think 7.5ns is betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
They're probably about the same....but most people probably left it at AUTO which is 5ns or so--these won't clock well at that setting.
I think that's part of the reason why we're seeing worse OCs--in addition to CABNEs simply being better. ;)
Time to wait for my Opteron 146 to arrive..
Wondering what stepping it is....
Sorry, didn't mean to start a debate, just wanted to note the discrepancies in my results between the two. In fact, it may have been down to my own mistake. Because I've just changed my preamble from 7ns to 7.5ns with A64tweaker (thanks to Vapor) and prime and superpi are giving much closer results now.Quote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2
my mobo is defaulting to 9.5ns with a 100mhz divider :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i just tried preambled at 7.5 and i lost 1sec on my 1mb score in super pi ... not sure if it made anything more stable or not but i deff lost performnce atleast in that benchmark. ill leave it at that setting and see if it helps me any....
thx perc,
What was your previous pre-amble?
auto :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
thx perc,
Great tip! Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Couldn't figure out why prime kept failing at exact same point again and again (during test 1 8k after initial 1024k series). Looks like this solved my problem.
Thanks again!
ok well i went back into bios and set pre-amble to 7.0 instead of 7.5 i gained my second back. then i riased the oc to 3100mhz and ran again got a nice 26sec in 1m super pi...
peace perc,
Any chance you can run the mod SPI? I have a feeling you're losing like .1 sec but may gain some OCability (YMMV though, I can't boot at anything other than 7.5ns at 3.15GHz and above).
Nice, where did you get the 146?Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
yeah man you may be right but for now im going to test 7.0 it seems to be working for me. heres a little more progress in my ocing ive just bumped up to 3100mhz and 1.525v in the bios. dammit im getting up there in the voltages now...
peace perc,
Yes, it is!Quote:
Originally Posted by Deus Falsus
i'm finding that the preamble doesn't effect much of anything, but then again i'm still working in single channel :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
You're still scaling normally with that chip. It'll get really interesting once you get to 1.55v and beyond. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
BTW - My SLI mod went well. I hit 12.1K in '05 with a Venice @ 2.6ghz and my 7800GTs on a quick and dirty run. If I pull the evap head off my 148 and have no condensation, I'll post some 3D on the weekend with the 146.
Edit: Just pulled it and it was a perfect seal. Back on schedule now. :)
Interesting good or interesting bad???Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
My temps are quite low thus far and I wanna crank the voltage up, but I have been wussing out up to now. Can't get Prime95 to run more than 30 mins or so at 3000 (though SPi 32M is ok). Of course this might be because my memory crapped out a week ago - I can't really know what's up until my G.Skill's come on Friday.
What do you think? Should I push it up? How high?
Got my 148 from ewiz on Tuesday. I was going to post some screen shots today but more pressing issues came up. Hopefully tomorrow as I'm at work again.
Anyway, it was the CABNE 0528 gpmw that seems to be comon for the 148s.
Initial OC results with DFI ultra-D and air cooling at 15C.
*3000Mhz is superPi 1Mb stable at 1.456Vcore.
*3100Mhz is 3DMark stable with 1.55, semi-stable with 1.525...but for some reason will not complete superpi 1mb at 3100Mhz even with 1.6 volts. Played with mem settings in A64 tweaker, mem voltage(TCCD), speed, etc....no go.
If you think you're memory isn't working quite right maybe you could go down to a single stick or drop a big divider on it to push it low enough it doesn't get in the way of your OC. If you do that and Prime comes up okay, push it up a little more if you're temps are okay.Quote:
Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
Perc has pretty good cooling so temps won't be a problem, so we should be able to see how that CPU scales with high volts. Good, bad, ... that remains to be seen.
well man i would have to say that at 1.55v in the bios doesnt help my stableness at all when at 3100mhz it will run for long periods of times then out of the blue the system will freeze:shrug: plus the heat at that voltage is just as hot or hotter then my x2 chip was!! these things put off heat big time when getting in the 1.5v and up.... i backed it off to 2900mhz at 1.4v to do some more burn in ill try the higher voltages and ocs later to see if it helps any.. ill post more later..Quote:
Perc has pretty good cooling so temps won't be a problem, so we should be able to see how that CPU scales with high volts. Good, bad, ... that remains to be seen.
peace perc,
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Originally Posted by ixtapalapaquetl
I'd ordered two 148 opty from compumusic.com, you think by any chance I might get the same steppings as yours? looks like all CABNE 0528 are very good clocker so I hope I'll get lucky otherwise ewiz have them for 40 bucks cheaper!! if both of them turns out to be same stepping then I'll return either one :D :D
I've noticed these things dump less and less heat if you really crank up the voltage for a bit and run it hard....unfortunately you need good cooling to handle it and not everyone has that. It might work at lower speeds with a high voltage burnin, but I doubt it.
Anyway, for those of you who have decent cooling and want to lower temps....raise the volts of your CABNE, burn it in and temps will be MUCH lower.
Perc--the BSODs at 3100MHz is just what happens when you run at an unstable speed, eventually it'll crash Windows.
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Originally Posted by Perc
what cooling you use for that opty? phase change or water? man...it doesn't sound too good if it's running as hot as the X2 :lol:
im on water, and i can turn my fans up to high for this burn in. how long you think i should run that for? a day? 2 days? i DEF need the positiv burn in effect to essentially make sure it puts out as least heat as possible at or below 3ghzQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
There's that method to burn in, which worked for me but no one else has tried it (so no corroborating data yet--maybe I was a fluke)....there's also the voltage reducing method of finding your MAX Prime stable OC at any voltage and then running at that speed with less voltage than what is stable, Priming the entire time. When it fails, restart it, keep repeating that process until it works for a VERY long time and then drop the voltage down again.....yes, it takes a while but it DEFINITELY works. You can't lower your usable voltage as far as you want but it's often good for lowering it >.05V.
Of course, a high OC/voltage combo on these requires serious cooling still.....but I'd recommend the method I just wrote out for you el rolio.
Mine was as hot as my X2....these are very hot processors until you break them in (which not many people have done yet).Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
im running phasechange and under a load i see temps of 5c wich is about what i see on my x2 under a load..
vapor: im not getting the blue screen the system will just lock up and like i said it doesnt do it all the time the system can run for 2days or 10mins its random when it does this....
peace perc,
then I can't expect it to outclock an excellent X2 that I've already got then.....my X2 4200 is dual prime stable at 3.0Ghz @1.53v.
perc....are you running with the max multiplier? I had a similar problem where my PC would lock up....turned out it was raising the multi on its own and my CPU couldn't handle it.
And you're only at 3100MHz on phase? I could easily do that on cheap water....you have a whack setting somewhere (or a very bum CABGE).
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Originally Posted by Perc
holysmoke....it's not even stable at 3.1Ghz under phase change? what steppings you got and where did you get that opty from?
well its not stable at 3100mhz using 1.55v in the bios im not using my % settings yet so i have some voltages left if i need them. also im running with the 10x multi i dont know how it could raise the multi its self could you explain? i also suspect a bumm timming cause this chip will run 3gigs at the defualt v-core wich usaly is a good sign. the stepping is the famos 0530APMW CABNE. i dont think theres anything wrong with this cpu i think its me... ill figure it out also any tips would help as well.
peace perc,
Alright, you're running the max multi, it won't change....
The bad timing you have is probably preamble...what is it set to?
7.5 i went back to your settings. hey when i get off work ill get ahold of you maybe we can compare notes see if i got something set wrong? also i only have like 8 hrs burn in time with this cpu maybe i just need more?
thx perc,
Post a Tweaker shot and I'm sure the many memory gurus around here will point you in the right direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
Should work much faster right out of the box....yeah...let me know when you get off of work, I'll see what I can do to help you out.
ok thx guys ill be hone around 4pm est time... heres a shot of my memory settings talk to you guys later....
thx perc,
Alright, first suggestions just to make sure all's stable....use a mem divider! Second...just set trc = tras + trp in the meantime (10 in your case).
Hey Perc how does this thing compare to running a x2 as I have order one and hoping to preform better than the x2 or is it about the same??
Thanks
It performs differently....the X2 is a much better multitasker and better for things that are in fact SMP aware....the Opteron is better at benchmarks and non-multitasking.
I have both and I run my X2 for 24/7.
only 1 tip for youQuote:
Originally Posted by Perc
give some volts in cpu
i have 1 identical steeping and maybe yours need more to scaling
dont have afrayd, mine was at 1,8 and dont burn :D
look,i take off the bios 704, the same you have, because this bios limit the volts to something like 1,7xxvolts and hi need more to brake my records
now i am using bios 623-3. more vcore and the memory table is better
WELL??? :slap:
good luck M8 :clap:
2,951Gig 1,312Vc Aircooled IHS ON CABNE 0530APMW 146 Opti 7H Prime Custom
Ambient 14°C-17°C
[img=http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/9552/2951mhz1312vc7hprimecustom2gq.th.jpg]
Here my opteron 144 apmw 0530. Without heatspreader and cooled by water...
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da...5302870S16.JPG
How about more volts??
I can buy a Opteron 148 with core CABYE.
Are they all 0528GPMW??, didnt ask it.
I analysed this topic and what i see are the following core/week and stepping:
Opteron 144: CABNE 0530APMW, CABGE 0536VPAW and CABYE 0536GPMW
Opteron 146: CABNE 0530APMW, CABGE 0534SPMW
Opteron 148: CABNE 0528GPMW and CABYE 0528GPMW
Opteron 150: CABGE 0534SPMW
went to bed last night with the opteron ~1-2min prime95 stable at 1.5v, 2724mhz, running cpu burn-in. woke up and could get it to just under 2.8ghz, load temps didn't change. i'm at 2.82ghz or so now. i should bump up the volts to 1.6v.. i know my water can take it :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Is there anybody, having a CBAYE 148 0536 GPMW ??
Tomorrow, i´ll get one of it. Hoping for well results... :stick:
free
Don't know, never see this on any forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by freestylercs
Opteron 144 CABYE 0536 GPMW are average clockers, worser then the 0530 and 0528...
Let us know, plz
148 CABYE 0528 GPMW is pretty good. Have not been able to complete 32M at 3.5GHz yet. Requires too much VCore for my cooling. Will probably move to air cooling this weekend.
http://img409.imageshack.us/img409/4274/347132m0ku.jpg
I know dude, but the 0536GPMW was average on the 144.Quote:
Originally Posted by sierra_bound
Week 0528GPMW is :toast:
all us guyz over here in aus are getting the Opteron 144 0536GPMW steppings....
none of them can do 3ghz on water *yet* but are very close indeed.... (29xxMhz)
im getting two tomorrow hopefully they are a decent week, if not i will have to deal with 2.9ghz :)
hopefully my lapped TT Big Typhoon will do the job properly!!
ya, ill do.Quote:
Originally Posted by kakaroto
by the way , here´s my new 144 0530 APMW 0081 Batch
http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylerc...,48V%2032M.JPG
free
I already mailed tons of stores and the only thing they have all got is, cabye 0536 gpmw :confused:
Have you asked alternate.nl?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugo van Dijk
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Originally Posted by Hugo van Dijk
thats the stepping ill get tomorrow. 148er.
free
No, they have got the 148 at the moment, But I thought they didn,t to these kind of requests.Quote:
Originally Posted by kakaroto
I called, they have CABYE too, but did not asked the week etc. which shops did you asked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugo van Dijk
last week i pre-ordered a 146 @ alternate.nl , hopefully they will get them in stock soon :D
I'm affraid when I get mine it will be from a crap step as usual... Anyway maybe some luck with a 148 one!
Your on watercooling right?Quote:
Originally Posted by freestylercs
Can you please tell me your load temps?
yeah all the CABYE 0536GPMW CPUs seems to be similar to mine.....results posted a few pages ago...............here is another which is a bit better.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Catalyst2211
there are a few which are stresscpu stable a smidge under 3GHz
yes, its under water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferry82
the 0530er really burns .
having a tripple radiator.
The heatspreader is still on top.
>1,45V--->47°C
>1,5V --->50 °C both on primetest
http://mitglied.lycos.de/freestylerc...0MHz@1,42V.JPG
free
Got my modded DFI and 148 under the phase now. Ambient temps too high to be doing anything serious, but I couldn't help but want to take a sneak peek at some 3D. Once I get my water cooling on the cards I should be able to crack 14K for sure.
http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6...ngpoint3ux.jpg
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1317329
@gundamit:
Now that's a sweet one. :bows:
man i may sell this and get a 148 i like the way yours is ocing man... ok ill try some of the settings you guys sugested.
peace perc,
I just got off the phone with compumusic.com to check on my 148 opty status and they've been shipped today, I'd asked what steppings should I expect and he said CABNE 0528, they still have a couple left, so if anybody want the CABNE 0528 you better order it NOW!! can't wait to receive mine :D :D :D
dont sell, dont be crazy :slap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Perc
you have the best steeping :fact:
try my settings
i allready put near 1,9 vcore only to test and the chip dont die(in prommy i remember)
try put some volts in yours
http://img374.imageshack.us/img374/5568/3504mhz5dt.jpg
good luck M8
hey thx man your right i wont sell :) im going to need some bh-5/utt chips to run your settings. i need to test a few settings tonight im back at 300x10 3000mhz using 1.45v in the bios wich reads 1.402v in cpu-z. i set my ldt to 3x instead of auto i set my tras to 9 my trc to 12 and im going to run some prime see if that helped any....
thx perc,
Got my 148 (CABYE0528GPMW) today and come to the conclusion that on air, so far, there is only about 75 MHz between them. I guess I knew that deep down but was wishing that the 146 or 148 would do 3200 on air, and I don't mean a ss. I am happy with them all but when I got the 144 that clocked so well, I thought the 146 or148 had to be a lot better. I know that a higher multiplier doesn't mean higher clocks all the time. I will keep them all as anyone of them are the best cpu I've ever owned. :D
Emailed Monarch last week about 939 optys and told them even eWiz had them and Monarch is supposed to be the top AMD reseller in US. Here's the reply that came today.
Thank you for your request. We will add this product to our
site. It
should be available within the next 1 to 2 weeks. Please let
me know
if you have further questions. Thank you for your time and
patience. We
appreciate your business.
Dabney
Purchasing Department
Monarch Computer
Hmmph. They have quite a good selection of CPU's on Ewiz it seems. I'll have to bookmark them. Too bad their selection of video cards sux0r's tho... no X1800's yet. Forget Monarch, too pricey. Ewiz even has a P-M 780 for <700, and has more Turion 64's than Newegg does, and had them earlier too. How about some Socket 754 OC'ing action anyone? With a stock Vcore of only 1.2 Volts, a TDP of only 25W (less than Dottie 27W), and a max case temp spec of 95, these ought to be good clockers.
I've noticed something interesting about these new Opteron's that noone has seemed to mention: (1)They are not all the same Wattage, (2) they're all stepping E4 (same as Athlon 64 X2, hence the similairities). But the dual-core s939 Opty's are E6!! Yeah, same rev as the new Venice. Now I'm really konfuzed.
The 144 and 146's are 67 Watt, same as a Venice etc.
When you move up to the 148 and 150, surprise surprise, the Wattage goes up to 85.3!
And the uber bad boys, 152 and yes, a 154 is coming soon :fact: (@2.8 Ghz) they are a whopping 104 Watts! :slapass:
Now I see why some users are complaining this is a hot-@ss chip. If I were you, I'd save my money and grab the 146 looks like the sweet spot.
Here's the top dog dual-core 939: OSA180DAA6CD 1.3/1.35 Vcore, 110 Watt. So if these clock as good as their single-core counterparts; sell those X2's!
Lowered the volts a bit because the temps are reading over 0c at load. But at 1.536v I'm failing 32M run half-way through. I'll bump it a little and try again.
I'm all done with '05 now until I get my water on. Made my original goal with just stock cooling on the cards though. 475/1130. FM is reading it too high.
http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/1764/2ndrun7du.png
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=1318070
@ BrnmccO1
Yes....Ewiz seems to be a great place to buy processors....
Anyway, X2s are E6s, not E4s (original San Diegos, Venuses, Opty 244-254, and Opty 844-845 are E4s). E3s are original Venices and E6s single cores are *not* that good. Anyway, on AMD chips, TDP really doesn't mean a whole lot....not to mention that the 146/144s are running EXTREMELY hot considering their TDP.
And the DC Opterons don't seem to be doing any better than Toledo X2s....and 1.27V was my stock voltage on my 4400+ according to CPU-Z, so they don't have an advantage there either.
Instead of bumping up the volts I decided to increase the active cooling on my sticks. It paid off. Timings could be tweaked some but I think I want to move over to the BH-5 tommorow.
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7051/300x119zk.png
Nice results gundamit. 300x11 is where its at on the 148s to be sure! If only I could be so lucky with water... .. Will find out tomorrow I guess. :fact:
Sorry. Actually, we're both wrong. Looks like the 512 Kb parts are E4, and 1Mb parts (Toledo?) are E6... unless AMD's own web site is wrong. See for yerself :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
ADA4600DAA5BV = E4
ADA4200DAA5BV = E4
ADA3800DAA5BV = E4
Oh, and Venices we're never E4's, just the dually opterons, and X2's. Venice/Sandy were E3 then E6.
the only problem is you're not counting total cache when you should be ;)
I thought that before San Diego's(E4) they were Clawhammers? Were Claw's E3's?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrnmccO1
Opteron 148's @ Alternate.nl are CABYE 0536GPMW :(.... that sucks...
Quote:
Originally Posted by asianguy80
E series stepping was a rework of the memory controller and addition of sse3. Chips before these were D and C series stepping.
Winchesters were D stepping (big innovation here was 90m shift)
Claws started as CO and moved on to CG.
Well CABYE 0536GPMW aren,t that bad, but I rather have a CABNE (but i think I,m to late for those).Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertShooter
Hmm...never realized Manchester was also E4 but it certainly is.... Never said Venice was ever E4....they were E3 and then changed to E6 (not all of them though). San Diegos are going through a similar process from E4 to E6. There also appears to be an E1 for the 2xx series DC Opterons....never saw that one before.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrnmccO1
Anyway, carry on.....to the person who said a CABYE was no good without testing it: :slap: CABYEs aren't the bottom of the barrel and CABNEs are just about impossible to find (especially the proven week 30 APMWs).
anyone in Denmark know if CABNE CPUs....got a friend over there for the next couple of weeks......it would be nice to get one of those
You can't lump the 148's in with the 144's when it comes to the CABYE's. I don't know about the 0536 week but the 148 0528 CABYE is a good chip. I want to see some results on any week and stepping before I judge it. Also, on all three of mine, stressing the cpu for hours at a time will bring down temps and give a little higher oc. I don't think it matters if it's lowest volts at stock or highest oc at any volts, it's just stressing the cpu for hours at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DesertShooter
Anyone who has been wanting an opty can still buy a 148 for under $300. It wasn't that long ago I paid $280 for a 3200 venice. eWiz has it right this time on the optys with some good steppings. When they sold them 3000 venices for $118 none of them were great. I thought I would never deal with them but I've bought a few things from them in the week and they are pretty good so far.
The reason I "opted" to continue testing my 0528 CABYE is because the jury is still out on this one. We already know that the 0530 CABNE are solid. I'm still wondering if Sierra used his mutant overclocking power to get his 0528 CABYE to 3.4ghz 32M stable, or if anyone can get there with the right cooling. I'll hold my 144 and 146 0530 CABNE in reserve until I've flogged the last mhz out of the 0528 CABYE. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dogsx2