Errr, you can alwats order a 3800+ venice from the UK if you want it quickly?..
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Errr, you can alwats order a 3800+ venice from the UK if you want it quickly?..
First post here.
Venices will be available saturday in Japan... so as XP x64...
i was checking akiba pc hotline and they showed pictures of shops selling venice and diego and also winxp x64 ed. anyone got connection in japan? now is a good time to be a foreigner buying american goods since the dollar is so weak.
Hey guys, I just got off the phone one of the supervisor at Monarch and he said that they only change the date to play it safe. However he knows for sure that AMD has already shipped the OEM cpu's to them and is on the plane right now. He said he's been with the company for 14 years and he guarantee that they'll be the first to get it.
This is regarding the 4000+
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Originally Posted by mcbarnet007
i hope it's a supersonic plane because the 4000+ is due for shipping to customers tomorrow :). what about the 3500+?
just ordered venice 3000+ from monarch and finger crossed :D , and that free shipping took like 7-10 days :slapass: :lol: . what ground service are they using? a horse ? :cheer2:
Venice 3800 in stock at Overclockers UK :)
Surely us Brits aren't first to have it...... ;)
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Originally Posted by setyotomo
i didn't know the 3000+ or the 3200+ get free shipping. i thought you only get free shipping with high end cpus like the 3500+ and up. at least fedex group is better than ups. i hate ups with a passion. btw, who is the closest to tucker, georgia? that's where monarch is located i think. i wonder how many pre-orders they got and i bet they're gleefully counting the profits they got gouging the price on these cpus :).
For anyone wanting to buy it from there, it would be $469.33 shipped to the US.. Not exactly a deal for us in the US..Quote:
Originally Posted by uranium
:brick:Quote:
Thank you for your Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego Core Pre-Order! We wanted to update you on the status of these processors.
The shipping date has recently changed, and we are currently expecting a full shipment of these processors (As well as all of the OEM Revision E chips) towards the end of next week. We have more than enough of these chips coming in to cover our existing pre-orders, plus more, so please do not worry if your order will be included in this first batch as it will be. The date MAY change, and our website will be updated as such, but at this point we do not expect it to.
Once the chips are received, your order will ship promptly. If you have any further questions, please email order@monarchcomputer.com.
Thank you,
Joe F.
Monarch Computer
They should've called these chip's core the "San Fransisco" instead of San Diego...because this is getting really F'n Gay
Yes I know- welcome to rip-off Britain! That's why I'll be getting my FX 57 from your side of the pond :)Quote:
Originally Posted by dakdak
i think we'll see the same email from monarch next week saying the same thing and the wait continues. i wonder if amd had already produced these cpus or just starting to produce them. hrmmmm
Is this a venice chip :stick:
http://www.sparco.com/cgi-bin/wfind2?spn=A88D806
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Originally Posted by orig3n
wow it's in stock in chicago and i live in chicago. man so tempting, looks like i might have to cancel from monarch again.
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wow 400 in stock in california. they're coming folks.
Venice is going to be BPBOX (or BNBOX) not AWBOXQuote:
Originally Posted by orig3n
That's not a Venice CPU
Last of the Mohi...err Newcastles.Quote:
Originally Posted by saiamne
Got my package today. OZC PSU and a little white box. :woot: That's right, my 3700+ has arrived!! Rejoice people! :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
nice!!! now get some benchies from that baby!
from where?????Quote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
If this is true, the other Venice chips might not be too far behind.
From Monarch. Won't be able to build this thing untill the weekend but that's a sight better than some time in May!
Does anyone know any overclocking results on the 3700+ San Diego? Like preliminary overclock benches...
I bet alot of people hate you right now, including me :D :D :DQuote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
Better check it out and make sure its not s754, because a reputable source that I have at monarch told me today they just got confirmation that the 3700+ SD's where shipping from Singapore today and should be received by monarch in 5-6 days. I don't see how you have one?Quote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
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Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=60153
Fits on my DFI nF4 Ultra-D just fine. On the chip is engraved:
AMD Athlon TM 64
ADA3700DAA5BN
CABHE 0505FPMW
1213347C50076
ASSEMBLED IN MALAYSIA
I'm baffled too.
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Originally Posted by waynesnyder
Post some pictures :banana: :banana:
Congrats :toast:
I wonder why monarch is holding back for current orders...
I smell something fishy about this whole pre-order business. And I bet Monarch is behind all of this!!! :nono: :devil: :devil: :eh: :eh: :soap: :soap: :shocked: :shocked: :para: :para: :hm: :hm: :sofa: :sofa: :shoot: :shoot: :stop: :stop: :cussing: :cussing: :shock2: :shock2: :brick: :brick: :wth: :wth: :bs: :bs:
Me too ! I just talk to Monarch about 1 hour ago, and they told me that, they din't have any of those new release processors yet, and they haven't sold it or shipped to anybody, so I don't know who is the liar ? :confused: waynesnyder ? or Monarch ? :mad: :dammit: if Waynesnyder really have that San-Diego, I will be happy for him :toast: :banana: But I will call back Monarch and I will tell them what I think about they service, and they are just a punch of liars :slapass: :frag: :wierd: :shoot: : So ! Waynesnyder, can you post a screenshot of your 3700 please ? :hm:Quote:
Originally Posted by OCfreak
I, uh, don't think calling Monarch and telling them they are liars will magically make your processor appear any faster.
That's alot of smilies :eek:
We need some benches of that 3700+
Check Mr. Roadster's site.....He just got one ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by quicksilverXP
I'll post up a screenshot once I get it up and runnin this weekend.
Oops, didn't see your post :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by LowRun
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Originally Posted by waynesnyder
:woot: :woot: :woot: :woot: :woot:
Lets see some pictures and results :banana:
UK store has them in stock (3800 Venice), pitty I dont have £250 lying around :(
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...acp_2d116_2dam
AHA!! So the key is to order something WITH the pre order... Hmmm this too tempting... :stick: :para:
digital camera would do just fineQuote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
just post a picture of the chip, you don't have to set it up this weekend. we want proof. i won't believe this unless i see a picture of the bare chip.
I have the BS flag ready to go...
Bare with me here, tryin to figure out how to attach a DOC file of my packing slip.
Notice the SERIAL DISTRIBUTION number :shock2:
I tried taking pictures of it with my old Olympus D-360L but the engraving doesn't show up.
OMFG you BASTAGE!!! How is this possible? Some relation to the PSU you ordered perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
:slapass: :slap: :stick:
:shock: :explode2: They are too expensive almost 450$ US for an 3800+ while Monarch or someothers websites have it for 80$ cheaper :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo404
around 360$. Anyway they just have the 3800+, but nothing else :( :slobber:
I preordered pretty quick once I knew what I was getting, plus I have order hardware from Monarch before. Loyal customer?
Yeah overclockers.co.uk arnt the best of sites, but their price for a 3800 is cheaper than the pre-order price on the only other UK site I know of to have mention of venice:
http://www.cpucityshop.co.uk/product...90b92381e5e290
We get ripped bad in this country for components, especialy 'hard to find speciality' products..... :slap:
Overclockers probably only have 5 in stock, but then know that if they put up the 'in stock' sign they will get hundereds of pre-orders because people think they have a full shippment..... :stick:
i still don't believe you, more proof please. if monarch has cpus and holding them as bait then i will cancel my pre-order with them for doing this to us loyal customers too.
Anyone able to test one out yet??
any word on the 4000's yet?
I'm guessing everyone got this email:
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Thank you for your Athlon 64 4000+ San Diego Core Pre-Order! We wanted to update you on the status of these processors. The shipping date has recently changed, and we are currently expecting a full shipment of these processors (As well as all of the OEM Revision E chips) towards the end of next week. We have more than enough of these chips coming in to cover our existing pre-orders, plus more, so please do not worry if your order will be included in this first batch as it will be. The date MAY change, and our website will be updated as such, but at this point we do not expect it to. Once the chips are received, your order will ship promptly. If you have any further questions, please email order@monarchcomputer.com. Thank you, Joe F. Monarch Computer
Monarch Joe over at Arnand forum said that he looked it up and waynesnyder DID get the only one they had.
He got the only one they had? They had ONE? GOd almighty WTF is going on... :cussing: :shakes:
haha, lol, they only got one. something smells really fishy and i don't like it. this is the messiest release ever. amd, distributor, and reseller are starting to piss me off. good thing this 3200+ winnie is running at 2.65Ghz right now. it's pretty sweet for a CBBID chip.
i don't think monarch or any resellers give a s*$t about us customers. i think the more we complain and the more we want these cpus, the more they'll keep us in suspense. they know we want it bad, so they're taking advantage of this situation. call me crazy, but that's how i feel. same goes for amd.
Hey crazy, as far as I can tell, Monarch isn't gouging anyone for these Venice/San Diego chips. So what do they possibly have to gain by "taking advantage of this situation"? :confused:
:para:
Read it here. http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y
Just my speculation and I have no proof. My feeling about the "lone 3700+" from Monarch is that they have them, but AMD has told them not to ship them until the end of next week. Gives another week to sell the present stock. Then some poor guy who was in the bathroom during the quick meeting about it, let one (or more) thru. Now, Monarch. like Lucy, has some 'splaining to do. And, if this is true, the other distributors that don't outsource has been locked up, too. And the main outsources are holding.
I'm thinking this has to be AMD bumping their dates for whatever reason...not enough Winchester / Newcastle CPUs sold off yet...?...no idea...seems like Distributors HAVE the chips, they're just not releasing them to retailers for resale...idfk anymore...when I talked to Monarch today all I got was "Our shipment was delayed for a week. Our AMD rep was in here today and he said he'd try to get these shipped for us. I guarantee we'll be the first to have these chips though." sounds like a load of crap to me
This is very strange... if waynesnyder got an OEM chip... which are only sold to integrators/retailers in large quantity trays... Monarch couldn't of had just one. :eek:
So, should we all call Monarch constantly tomorrow and politely but insistently ask them to ship us our CPUs *NOW*?!?!!?!?!!??!?!!?
I would call them every hour, on the hour, if I thought it would help...
you HAVE to turn on your macro to get that..Quote:
Originally Posted by waynesnyder
http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D360/ZMACDT.JPG
man i'm just tired of this whole venice/diego release. why can't amd do something nice for the enthusiasts for once. so what if they have surplus of winnies. sell them to system builders. we want venice and san diego now.
As has already been mentioned, 3800+ Venice cores are available for order at Overclockers.co.uk but this morning they also added the slower speed Venices for*pre*order. These slower cores will arrive at their place at the start to middle of next week as confirmed by this post...
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...9&postcount=20
Get ordering! If you can afford it :)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal..._939_cpus.html
As for all you Americans that look at the above page and do some conversion, you're forgetting one thing. That the dollar is VERY weak in comparison to the British pound. This means you get a lot less pounds for your dollar in comparison to how many dollars we can get for a pound. As always, the prices here are usually higher but it's going to seem even more so if you just do a straight conversion with the current rates.
At the time of writing...
1 USD gets you 0.52 GBP
1 GBP gets us 1.91 USD
...taken from http://www.xe.com , rates change very often and so it may be different by the time you click it.
thanking for econ 101. i think we all know the obvious with the currency exchange rate. why would anyone want to order overseas just so they will have to wait longer for shipping. doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. it's a good time to buy if you're outside the US though. so today is the day when we should see 4000+ available on monarch right? i wonder what excuse monarch will use today to delay the 4000+.
Actually the 4000+ has been pushed back to April 29th by Monarch. I'm getting sick and tired of this. I'm about to order a Clawhammer and make the move to Venice or even dual core this summer.
i got sick and tired of the waiting and the many excuses i heard from vendors, so i ordered a 3200+ winnie. this cpu can't oc for sh*t. it can only do 2.6Ghz and i got good g.skill rams, 550W antec psu, and xp-120 to cool it. the release will continue to be pushed back, this is ridiculous.
Monarch has a pre order for the dual cores, which according to Monarch is the end of May..Quote:
Originally Posted by Enigma422
Japan is havin fun with them Venices at this moment
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Originally Posted by dakdak
haha here comes another paper launch. good luck with your pre-order because you're going to sit there and wait and wait while your credit card will be charged. who in their right mind would want dual core right now? wait till next year when windows longhorn comes out, duke nukem comes out, etc....don't get caught on this war between intel and amd. save your money.
When I saw this thread I immediatley go to the last page, so I don't no if its mentioned before.
San Diego 3500+ 1MB chache
Why go for a San Diego 4000+ if you can get a 3500+ for estimation price $270,-
I don't if its true, but if it is... :party:
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Originally Posted by the farmer
what's the code for the 3500+ BN? will it be oem only or is there a box one too. i would love to get this 1MB cache 3500+ san diego core. thanks.
Most likely it will be 3500+ BN, but I know as many as you. Box or no Box, I buy this one when it's available, I'm using my XP-120 anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
I was just searching for San Diego review, when I saw this page, it was quite shocking to me, I felt it was my duty to inform you guys, at your service.
I spoke to Joe at Monarch... they got one from AMD for them to eval... they didn't eval it they sent it out to the first person on the preorder. These guys are honest if nothing else. I would rather have someone tell me the truth then to blow smoke just to get my order and my hopes up (sparco!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tibu
Hi, I thought that the lowest speed-binned chip with 1mb L2 was 3700+? that's the main reason why everyone on this site is aiming for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by the farmer
Folks... this is no diffrent from any other AMD launch, a launch just means they are saying "hey we are making this chip" there is no way any reseller would hold these prodcuts if they have them. Monarch has been first to market on AMD chips for like 2 years...
I know, I never heard of any plans from AMD for a 3500+ 1MB. I don't know if we can trust this guy in my link. I hope it's true, but maybe its just a rumor he heard and just post it like it's the truth. We just have to wait what the future will bring us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hombre
monarch is the greatest etailer there ever was :). they're first inline for every new releases, woot. that's why i cancelled my order with them and pre-ordered me an ADA3500BNBOX from sparco. monarch, sparco, or whoever etailers you're ordering from, the cpu is coming from one place and one place only, ingram micro. i got a 3200+ to play for now, so i don't care about waiting anymore. when it comes it comes. time to relax and play some games :).
not true, you have bad informationQuote:
Originally Posted by dng29
how so? i'd like to know where monarch gets the products from besides ingram micro. monarch must pay some incentives to the distributors or amd to get first dip on the venice/diego cpus. oh well, i'm sticking to sparco and everyone who ordered from monarch, i hope you get your order asap. i'm sure you will get your order before me, but who cares anymore. by any chance you work for monarch or have relatives working for monarch iluvamd?Quote:
Originally Posted by iluvamd
Just called sparco & canceled. Not feeling good about the first chips. Going w/ my gut on this one, going to sit and wait like I shoulda done b4. :rolleyes:
my my!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE its just a PROCESSOR!!!!
relaxx!! they will be out soon!
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Originally Posted by lastdon00
:slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :slobber: :bs: :hump: :horse: :wasntme: :lastweek: :sofa: :rotf: :rotf: :rofl:
(Of course it will never happen (and of course I am ignoring the realities of the situation:hehe: ) :rolleyes: )
Everyone should cancel their venice and SD orders and not place them for 1 week after they become available - sorta returning the favor for what is going on out there.....
Shame on Monarch for not caring more about you so called "loyal" customers who plan to break a chip in order to cash in on their warranty.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by TysonM
haha i'm the evil one. i'm sure everyone in this forum is an angel :).
Monarch are launch partners with AMD. That is why they will have the processors first. What exactly is your beef with monarch anyways? That they shipped out their sample chip to someone other than you. Monarch has been very upfront on the issue of these cores from the beginning. One of their sales reps is constantly updating people in the anandtech forums on what is going on. Quit overreacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
i love it.... everyone is taking shots at me. c'mon, give me more, i want it...bring it on.....i speak for all who pre-ordered and are frustrated with waiting and waiting and hearing different stories. btw, i got an email from a monarch rep. saying to take into consideration of there might be problems getting shipment due to weather or plane problems. oh my, now we're talking about difficulties getting shipments. i have no beef against monarch or any vendors. i'm just voicing my frustration. afterall this is what a forum is for. besides i cancelled my order with monarch. moral of the story is speak up because you're the customers. i'm sure it's just me against a legion of loyal monarch customers. good luck to you all and have fun with shopping at monarch. God bless.Quote:
Originally Posted by koyanisquatsi
I ordered mine 3800+ :D
@ 26/04 the store gets em ( 10-15 pcs ) its 100% sure they get them
So next week its benching time ( Mach II )
http://www.hofline.com/ Store in Belgium
So the decision point is between the 3800+ Venice (x12) and the 3700+Sandiego (x11). With the target of 250Mhz memory bus for 4x512M sticks, and given either chip will do 3.0Ghz+ with good cooling....
Would it be better to get 3800+ and go 250 x12 or 3700+ for 250 x11 with the bigger L2 cache? Or can the whole HTT vs memory-Mhz be fiddle with a divider to have 250Mhz memorybus, and still do say 300Mhz-HTT x10 for 3Ghz on the 3700+?
Not having a A64 to fiddle with Im not sure what is actually doable.
If a divider is viable, then why do they even bother "locking" the multiplier....since you can get around the limitations....what am I missing?
Btw, the latest from MonarchJoe is they expect to have all oem rev e chips by end of next week. Supposedly they've shipped from Singapore today. He says it usually takes 6 days from there to here. Wait's almost over folks.
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Originally Posted by uwackme
wait a minute, how are you so sure youll hit 3GHz on a Venice? The few ive seen did more like 2.9GHz. I am not saying some wont hit 3GHz nor will I speculate on the odds of 3GHz but its a fact not all will hit 3GHz that much I can say. Whats the limit of your ram? You may be much better with a 3700+ Diego at 250x11 to 260x11 depending on your cpu and ram limit. with a 3800+ if it doesnt do 3GHz youd either be forced to use 11x multi or run a low fsb at 12x killing performance. Diego is cheaper and better, I cant see any reason anyone should EVER get a 3800+ Venice over a 3700+ Diego :confused: :stick:
Oh my God ! almost 564.262 $ for an 3800+ Venice :shock: :worship: I can have an 4000+ Sandiego for that price :fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Theo404
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Originally Posted by Geforce4ti4200
Or a 3500+ diego for that matter. correct me if i'm wrong, but both the 3500 and 3700 have the same multi of 11x and both have 1MB L2 cache. the 3500+ is cheaper than the 3700+ right? so what is amd thinking? btw, i pre-ordered a 3500+ BNBOX from sparco :).
Hmm havent Monarch just pushed out their availability dates on the 3800+ from today to next Friday?Quote:
Originally Posted by iluvamd
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Originally Posted by OC Detective
they sure did, next friday it is. but rest assure, the cpus are on a ship or plane crossing the pacific right now from singapore. it's the weekend folks, sit back, relax, smoke a cigar or whatever and lets wait another week. next friday comes, all your pre-orders will be fulfilled and wait a few more days for that red/blue or brown truck to show up. lets hopes the weather won't stop the plane or the ship mid way or we'll be waiting longer :).
Ya better take a closer look at 3500+ Venice and Sandiego ! :stick:Quote:
Originally Posted by dng29
the 3500+Venice have 512 L2-cache and 11x200= 2200mhz
the 3500+Sandiego have 1Mb L2-cache & 10x200=2000mhz
is up to you ! :fact: you want 1Mb L2 then you loose 200Mhz, if you want 2200mhz then you can have only 512Mb L2 :fact: just be verycarefull about what you want with All thoses Steppings ;)
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Originally Posted by AMDfan
thanks for pointing out the 3500+ diego multi. i didn't know that it only has 10x. oh well, you gain some(1MB L2 cache) you lose some(10x multi.). btw, it's good to live to japan
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba...c_a64reve.html
unfortunately, it looks like the 3500+ san diego only has 512kQuote:
Originally Posted by dng29
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Originally Posted by koyanisquatsi
hrmm i thought and everyone else knows that san diego core has 1MB L2 cache. you might want to verify that bro. everywhere i read says san diego core has 1MB L2 cache. btw, correct me if i'm wrong :).
Oki, and this knowledge comes from....., ask yourself is it logical to sell a 3500 sandiago clocked the same as a 3200 venice with the same cache, once you can figure out the answer to that question you can re-evaluate your above statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by koyanisquatsi
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Originally Posted by qui
excellent point. i'm sure someone out there will buy the 3500+ knowing it's a higher number so it must be a faster cpu :).
koyanisquatsi are you going to buy the 3500+ diego with 512K L2 cache bro? please let us know how fast it runs :). sorry, that's a cheap shot, peace :).