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Congratulations on your MSI HD5870 Lightning / Gigabyte HD5870 Super OC! :clap::eleph:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
Enjoy the fastest single GPU card on the planet for the rest of the first half of this year!
edit: except for the last month, maybe.
ExactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
And I think at this point anyways, if Nvidia is still deciding on clocks, I wouldn't be surprised if the shader count isn't set so a GTX 360/380 naming scheme might be pointless to argue about
This card feels a lot like GT200... as in it's great performance, but it won't shine until the refresh/when yields are better (a'la GTX280 -> GTX 285)
You believe a 1ghz Cypress will outperform a GTX 380? This sounds more like wishful thinking from an AMD executive. From 850 to 1000 you get at best 15% performance increase which shouldn't be enough to bring down GTX 380.Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
Of course, if you mean GTX 380 won't come out till November, then...
Speak for yourself :p:, I really think this is the GTX 360, as I've predicted GTX 380 to be like 10% slower than HD 5970, I've also predicted GTX 360 to be like 10~15% faster than HD 5870 due to the rather laid back amount SPs (why nvidia will release an updated GTX 360 with slightly higher SPs later when HD 5890 arrives so it will keep that slight edge over the competitor in performance. I don't think if these results are GTX 360 would be anything special, it's what nvidia needs at minimum to be somewhat successful competing with a big chip that has to be priced high (if GTX 360 had been like 20~30% faster I'd see it as an awesome achievement) so it can be priced at $399 which I think is the targeted launch price for GTX 360. GTX 380 I'd expect to have $599 ~ $649 in MSRP which will probably drive HD 5970 costs down a 50~$100 rather quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Well if you're talking about a GTX 380 that's 10% slower than a HD5970 and a GTX 360 that's 15% faster than a 5870 then there's very little difference between those cards anyway. 5970 is 140x when 5870 is 100x, so your estimates put GTX 360 at 115x and GTX 380 at 125x, which puts the difference between 360 and 380 at 7 percent. I don't think that's possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
If the card in question is indeed 360, I would say that 380 would be at least head to head with 5970 which I believe will not be the case.
I think he is saying that gf100 will not come out by Jan last or feb first week.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
yeah but that still doesn't put the gf100 release date at november does it :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
Isn't HD 5970 more like 50~70% faster than HD 5870? That's roughly what I assumed at least. I know there's these games where it doesn't give any huge benefit due to lack of proper driver support but those should be discluded.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Well ya it does not but full availability will be around mid-late Q2
hmm. and is this correct? Cos from what I heard, both 380 and 360 would be available@launchQuote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
show me where I said november? I said first half of 2010. a 395 won't show up in stores until H2.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Launch is currently in March. nvidia doesn't do hard launches anymore so put that availability mid of April, somewhere in May sounds way more reasonable for any real retail availability.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
Not in most circumstances, though I do believe the difference won't be enough to justify a $100 price difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
I am pretty confident that AMD knows the performance of GF100 and even they will tell you that GF100 has to be faster.Quote:
This sounds more like wishful thinking from an AMD executive. From 850 to 1000 you get at best 15% performance increase which shouldn't be enough to bring down GTX 380.
Ofcourse I don't mean that...It'll be a whole different world come NovemberQuote:
Of course, if you mean GTX 380 won't come out till November, then...
Look closer it's 01/10/2010 and 01/13/2002:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by jaredpace
well great and all that but you don't seem to be following what you yourself have said. You said that a 1ghz Cypress would be the fastest single gpu card for the whole of 2010, and my reply was based on that claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
edit: oops... you said first HALF, I got it as whole 2010, sorry, my bad
so they tested against fx series :ROTF: ironicQuote:
Originally Posted by blob
Yep its 2002 i also saw that yesterday but its really meaning less. I am sure nvidia had noting that could do that high FPS around 2002 :D or maybe a FX5999 "supper leaf blower edition"Quote:
Originally Posted by blob
So when is the NDA over?? Just "sunday" is rather vague.
Sunday in what timezone?
There is probably an NDA for the expiration of the actual NDA :p:
Yeah well, in 3 hours it's sunday here in Finland so we'll see what happens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
I know for sure a swedish site (sweclockers) will release info on sunday and thats in 4 hours there.
But if it indeed is sunday east coust US then it's a long wait. :p:
well.. 4 hours to go here too.. wonder if I should be the first to posts the full specs of GF100/GF104 or not.. before the NDA lifts.
Yeah, why not... :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
I just PM'ed some to annihilat0r, Maybe I'll feel better after taking a warm tub.. brb.Quote:
Originally Posted by Luka_Aveiro
Please do that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
Yes, please :DQuote:
Originally Posted by neliz
Its 1am here lol 17th is here
someone pls post something
SOMETHING
your welcome
thanks radaja, but i bet you know something huh
Oh come on, might as well. It's already the 17th for a good chunk of the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
Not like waiting 4 hours is going to make even the slightest difference.
i really dont know anything.sorryQuote:
Originally Posted by ajaidev
just trying to ease the anticipation with humor
64 Quad TMU's (GT200 has 80 dual TMUs I THINK, RV870 has 80 Quad TMUs)
There's a bigger difference between GF104 and GF100 than beteween Cypress XT and Cypress Pro.
Only ~60% faster than a 5870 @ hawx :p:
4tri/clock
SOMETHING!
Totally unrelated, but thought I'd post. :p: Found this while looking for the poster above.
http://www.straferight.com/photopost...ers-market.jpg
:rofl:
NVM bad seed
About 2k faster than 1GHz 5870, not bad. What CPU speed?Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
one is 725, one is 750 (i hope I'm not reading fake fact sheets now btw)Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Game performance results plz plz plz plz :)!!!
CPU speed... i7 920, i7 860, i7 980, how many MHz, you know... :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
And isn't Vantage really Nvidia-loving anyway? So it might be not as fast in other applications... I'd be really curious about Unigine stuff.
Why? the card is not coming out in the next couple of months anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
Wait, i missed something, whats happening today?Quote:
Originally Posted by kgk
game results could be for some people the most relevant results, and waiting a "couple" of months to see disappointing results could be sad :/ anyways heading to work!Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
NDA from the Fermi Deep Dive meeting in vegas lifts on sunday.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverShocked
Full specs etc.
If anything you'll be getting pre-cooked benchmarks with the most positive bias you can find. Ultimately irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blacky
Inquiring minds want to know ;). Besides, it's not hard to come across parts even during a softlaunch so long as they exist, if you look. I'm looking forward to switching back to nvidia for my personal rig I must say. I couldn't care much less about 3dmark except for comparing my own system to itself...Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
this is deeply disturbing!Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
WoW.... at least their finally getting somewhere.:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeMaan
1½ hours to go!! w00t!
im not into it as you guys are but my guess would be that the benchmarks are from the gtx380 because every pic i have seen of the new card's have had a 6 pin and an 8 pin connector.... surley the 360 wouldnt require so much power? i know fermi has a large die but that would be an awfull lot of juice for the 360?
fermi specs
total multi-stage decimation
http://i50.tinypic.com/2qn30o9.png
If a 6-pin + 8-pin gives me ~20% more performance overall than an HD5870, bring it on.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazkat
the calm before the storm..............:P
So what site aer we going to see this info up on?
Hour and a half from the 17th according to GMT. If there's no info from all the big talkers, then they don't really know anything.
What's GF104?!
[edit] Never mind GF100 is the 448 variant and GF104 is 512 (supposedly)
5 minutes to go? :D
Edit: 4!
o holy cow its midnight lmaooo didnt even know what the time was
How come the thread has so many tags? I thought 5 was the limit! :D
right here it says NDA ends at 9PM on sunday.
http://alienbabeltech.com/main/?p=14549
Three fermis in the raytracing demo, one in the rest I believe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcXmV5Je_gc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ie0t_LkImk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-0iFBiLw_k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Juxq2tqHyI
LMFAOQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
"delay"
"failure"
"close to 5879oooooops"
haha actually so funny
Well, this is really thrillin..
Please translate for us mortals :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides
Google Translate:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
Name of the Italian physicist Enrico new generation of Nvidia graphics processor architecture Fermi'den area with basic information about the identity of the player, has shared a special session with the press coverage. High-performance computing market for the details in September Graphic Technology Conference (GTC) Fermi architecture is described, for end-users which is a product code-named GF100 DirectX 11 GPU and graphics card to use their own variations of the information and some performance figures as of tomorrow, disclosure of the , of the details of the Monday on a global scale is expected to be shared by various media organizations.
For high-performance segment, Nvidia will take two models to the market in the first place that these models yet formally correct even as the GeForce GTX 360 and GeForce GTX 380 is expected to naming. 40nm process technology produced with the GPU and the GDDR5 memory technology will power the new graphics cards, the top of the 512x model parallel processing unit (CUDA cores), 384-bit memory bus support, 1.5GB GDDR5 memory, and between 250-300 watt TDP come with expected sub-model 448x parallel processing unit, to support 320-bit memory bus and is said to be capable of 1.28GB GDDR5 memory.
According to information from Nvidia, depending on power design GeForce GTX 380 model, one PCIe 6-pin wire one 8-pin PCIe power connector, the GeForce GTX 360 model, two 6-pin PCIe power connector to use. Released on Youtube and Nvidia Editor's Day event allegedly shot some videos and other information disclosure by such 380'in GeForce GTX 3DMark Vantage'da ~ P22, 000 to such a score (CPU?) Sign that the use of this score depends on the processor ATI Radeon HD running 1GHz'de as 20% is better 5870'ten spoken.
It says that GF100 scores P22000 in Vantage.. which.. you already knew for a couple of hours...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
Quote:
Originally Posted by neliz
Also says that I pasted the wrong link.
Must have double clicked the tab which clipboards the url instead of the three I meant
380 is the 512x model parallel processing unit (CUDA cores), 384-bit memory bus support, 1.5GB GDDR5 memory, and between 250-300 watt TDP. the 360 is 448x parallel processing unit, to support 320-bit memory bus and is said to be capable of 1.28GB GDDR5 memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
380 = 6 + 8 pin ... 360 6+6
in vantage... 380 scores 20% more then a 5870 @ 1000mhz core speed...
P points....
official info tomo and monday (press release)
what? No news? :(
Well, in the video posted, the GT360 is faster than the 5870Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightcover
Yeah, but those videos are "really" old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides
a day is "really"Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightcover
wow, what a :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana::banana:
It's pre-page40 man. It's old and forgotten:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jowy Atreides
LOL...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightcover
Ok so Vantage is a bull**** benchmark, but doing some even more bull**** rough calculations :p:
5870 850Mhz = 100%
5870 1Ghz = 118%
GTX380 = 141%
GTX360 = 124% *
*Based purely on proportion of shader cores.
(NvidiAGeForce)
Quote:
Attention gamers of the Northwest! We are at PDX LAN tonight with GF100 in the wild. Someone in the audience will win one. Could be you!
Where would the 5970 place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sumanji
Maybe like 160% ?
I dunno, those are complete BS numbers :D
Good question, also any news on the 395??
What we need it Unigine performance numbers. DX11 and no specific brand addiction.
The 5970 hits around 20k in vantage, so 22k for a single GF100 is good news for record seekers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
With or without PHYSX enabled?:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by trinibwoy
lol with PhysX enabled ? Pretty sure the answer would be yes , keep in mind those results are coming from same people who claim gts250 > 5870 ...Quote:
...so 22k for a single GF100 is good news...
its pointless to compare if physX is enabled... need more info
Yep, and that probably influences the score even more this time since Fermi should be faster at PhysX than G80/GT200.Quote:
Originally Posted by To(V)bo Co(V)bo
then wouldnt the scores be in the 100k? or is that 22k for just the GPU score?
In random-scaling microstutter land, just like a GTX 295 does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
22k is behind the GTX 295, but can be a good start for a single card with early (and totally new) drivers..
Y'all are grasping at straws. ;)
30 minutes to 9 PST :)
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/3271/f5nl9.gif
some info i found on another forum
AvP3 and Crysis2 can be taken with a grain of salt, since they are not finalized and drivers aren't finalized yet. DiRT2 may improve or decline slightly, depends on final drivers.
Those tests were run using a Corei7 920, 6GBs of DDR3 1333, and an Intel 64GB SSD paired with a single GF100 card. The tests were run at 1920x1200 with 4x SSAA and 16xAF. Happy? If you want more details, wait for a benchmarking site to run benchmarks like everyone else. I am spoiling you as it is. Don't bite the hand that feeds.
The GF100 card length is 10.61"
The GF104 is going to be larger, around 5870 length
The GF104 is the faster of the two cards.
At midnight (EST, -5 GMT), I will fill in the blanks.... MUHAHAHAA.
GF100 outperforms ATi's 5870 by 46% on average
GF100 outperforms ATi's 5970 by 8% on average
The GF100 gets 148 fps in DiRT2
The GF100 gets 73 fps in Crysis2
The GF100 gets 82 fps in AvP3
maybe you guys have already seen this?
there was a Rahja guy posting similar info, I have seen that
soz man i didnt see it in the forum so i posted it...Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilat0r
If this is true, then it is really good for such a early driver. But i don't dare to make high hopes, yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by jazkat
It will be really interesting to see some official tests, soon.
Easy for you to say, were things different you would also mod the auto fire switch from an old joystick to the F5 button.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKYMTL
Slow down man, the page will never finish loading and you'll miss the fun :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by jfromeo
So hows site traffic looking right about now? :ROTF:
Come on. Where is it ?
Hoax!
If im not mistake NDA expires 9pm on Sunday , right now is only Saturday :eek:
*Sits patiently and waits*
:shoot::shoot::cheer2::upset::upset::upset:Now Now Now Now Now Now Now Now Now Now !!!!