i also emailed them last week about the nb.
yes oc'ing on this board is easy but i think i got a good phenom also. 3700mhz 1.425 is realy stable and is allowed to get hot at this speed.
so aircooling would be possible with this setting.
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i also emailed them last week about the nb.
yes oc'ing on this board is easy but i think i got a good phenom also. 3700mhz 1.425 is realy stable and is allowed to get hot at this speed.
so aircooling would be possible with this setting.
Good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
I thought about doing this too. The more of us that contact them and ask for this the more likely we are to get it.
To Lightman and BertM
Did you contact them using the the gigabyte website?
I flashed F6 a few days ago. I was previously using F6B for several months. So far I haven't noticed any functional difference between that and this offcial one.
Things I'd like to see added/fixed are:
CPU-Northbridge voltage increase.
Fix the HyperTransport link frequency setting. Increasing above 2000Mhz doesn't work but decreasing below 2000Mhz does.
Chipset voltage setting only increases Southbridge voltage and not Northbridge voltage.
Auto RAM timings doesn't work (for my EPP RAM). Have to use manual.
They was such a long gap between the release BIOS F5 and official BIOS F6 (albeit with a couple of betas inbetween). I really hope we won't have to wait long to see tangible improvements in the next offical BIOS.
Good thinking! I agree. :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Phenomenalspeed
Yes, website.
I've spotted lack of Ganged/UnGanged selection in F6 and F6d. Also I'm starting to suspect they broken HDD management. Thing is I can't install Windows XP on my 3 HDD or SSD. After finishing copying files (phase I of install) I've got restart and message NTLDR not found. Wired is that it was fine before to install many OSes. I've even tried to disconnect all drives expect the one I wanted to put XP on. Still same :shrug: I will give it one more go with total BIOS clear and HDD repartitioning to rule out MBR virus or wired corruption.Quote:
I flashed F6 a few days ago. I was previously using F6B for several months. So far I haven't noticed any functional difference between that and this offcial one.
Edit: After Clear CMOS and with only one drive install went smooth :)
Yes, wise words!Quote:
Things I'd like to see added/fixed are:
CPU-Northbridge voltage increase.
Fix the HyperTransport link frequency setting. Increasing above 2000Mhz doesn't work but decreasing below 2000Mhz does.
Chipset voltage setting only increases Southbridge voltage and not Northbridge voltage.
Auto RAM timings doesn't work (for my EPP RAM). Have to use manual.
Auto RAM is working for me out of the BOX. My RAM is OCZ Reaper PC8500 2x2GB.
I hope so too :up:Quote:
They was such a long gap between the release BIOS F5 and official BIOS F6 (albeit with a couple of betas inbetween). I really hope we won't have to wait long to see tangible improvements in the next offical BIOS.
Edited
Has anyone tried Windows 7 build 7000 x64 with this board and a raid-array? Just wondering, cause Im getting a 2.9 hdd performance ratio in experience index while all other scores went up compared to Vista. Driver issue or?
thats odd, mine gets a 7.9 with 2x RaptorsQuote:
Originally Posted by -= rtz =-
are you using the Gigabyte Sata or the SB600 Sata ports?
Ah, Goldbr1ck to the rescue :)Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
SB600 Sata ports, there were also major problems installing catalyst drivers. The problem is u can really notice the choppy performance in windows, especially when maximizing and minimizing windows, it stutters so I didnt even try any benching or games yet.
As a side note, in Vista x64 Ultimate the seagate drives score 5.9
are you using the 8.12 beta drivers for win7? The Catalyst drivers have been a pain in the ass lately. you may need to run driverclean and to a fresh catalyst install.
Yup, exactly. 8.12 were the ones that created all the hassle (for vista x64). Sometimes the installation just hanged and u couldnt install them at all, dont even remmember how I solved that. I will try clean reinstall of 8.12 and if that doesnt help clean reinstall of 9.1Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
Edit: Attempt to uninstall catalyst drivers resulted with ati installer hang... tried to reboot in safe mode to run driver cleaner
but win was unable to boot and also unable to automatically recover. I will install windows again tommorow.
problem is that unless you use somthing like DriverCleaner to remove all trace of ATI software first the problem will stay even after re-installing or using older driver
So I should use driver cleaner first? I wanted to try that actually, but then windows crashed beyond reparation :rofl: Which version of drivers are you using btw? And how many attempts or re-installs were needed before it finally worked for you? :D
I was using the 8.12 beta and it was just fine until Windows update snuck in a updated driver that was dated 8 days newer then the 8.12 beta and from then on the problems started. I went back to the 8.12 beta and problem was still there. Then I tried the Vista driver and still no fix. After that I ran DriverClean then installed 8.12beta from safe mode, now im good.
If all else fails you could always just go with a fresh Windows install. just make sure you dont install the drivers Win7 tries to give you thats dated 12/10. I believe the 8.12 beta is dated 12/2 I think.
Conclusion: Goldbr1ck tried to help over PM but we were unable to determine what exactly was causing the low hdd experience index score in Win7 x64 build 7000.
Altho I ran 3dmark 06 there and got 101xx as opposed to vista64's 107xx.
Everest hdd benchmark 1 MB linear read was giving 168 MB/s avg, very close to the raid-0 raptors from Goldbr1ck, so I guess its just a fluke in the performance rating system of Win7.
Anyway, I ran into a bigger issue yesterday, and wanted to ask has anyone experienced this as well. What happened was a complete shutdown of the system out of the blue, while chatting in miranda, there wasnt any storm outside, I didnt accidently pull out the power cable or pressed the extension power cable switch with foot, it just came like a phantom. This board is running for a year now and half of that period the system is overclocked like in the sig, it never happened before untill yesterday.
Anyone ever experienced this? It happened on xp32 sp3 if it means something.
Is it working now?Quote:
Originally Posted by -= rtz =-
If it is, then most likely PSU in your computer..
Happens a lot. Even today I had a call from customer with exactly same issue. PSU is slowly giving up. It can be motherboard as well, but for me ratio is 95%/5% for PSU.
If you can, try different unit.
Yup, its working allright. It happened only once, and PSU was my first thought as well. It booted immediatly from first attempt after failing with no problems. The system is running average 12 hours a day, but sometimes its over 48 hours uptime. I'll just monitor the situation for a while and if it starts to get more frequent, hell, Corsair is still few years under warranty so there should be no problems with that :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Allright, it shut down again today while in Idle. What I wanna ask u as this: I had a weird problem with XP SP3 where everest would show weird temperatures, f.e. in XP SP2, XP x64 and Vista x64 SP2 the temperatures were always fine. 29-32 C in Idle and both cores below 10 C, while in XP SP3 it could never go below 36-37 C in Idle, with both cores arround 15 C. It was like it had some small load in Idle constantly. I found this odd and I was messing with this problem for months.
Today after the 2nd shutdown (2nd total) I decided to blow out the dust from the PSU with a compressor (without disassembling it), altho I knew the chance of this helping the situation are miserable. Anyway... I booted up again, and found a pleasant surprise - the temperatures were "fixed", the Idle temps were finally the same as in other OS-es I mentioned, temperatures finally seem correct and realistic again, 30 C with both cores below 10 C.
So now Im starting to think, what if the high temps problem that was previously present was the cause of the pc shutting down? What the hell could cause this temp issue (I seriously have no idea anymore) and how come it fixed itself by a simple blow-out with a compressor?? :shrug: I repeat, I had done nothing xcept this simple blow-out dust job, no messing with software or hardware in any way.
Any ideas? :D
Edit: It shut down again and started to happen more often soon after I wrote this post, I am back on vista x64 for almost 3 hours and its working good so far. Will keep this updated.
i have had several sudden restarts in xp sp3. always after playing gta for some time. but never shutdowns.
and it was during different states of cpu. sometimes idle, sometimes still with watercooling on gaming mode so cpu had a low temp, and once with cpu on 3700 mhz.
in sp2 i didnt have unexplainable crashes yet with the phenom.
Well PC related problems are always explainable, we just sometimes dont know how to explain them :D I wish this was a simple crash instead of bad shutdowns like in your case, but what can you do.. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by BertM
Im running the system in vista x64 for 12 hours now and it hasnt shutdown yet. Interesting :) Im starting to think its XP SP3 related, but I guess time will tell.
Anyone know any place that still has this board for sale? I found only a couple but they are priced near $300 :eek:. I dont remember what I payed for the one I have but I know it wasnt that much.
Why did they ever discontinue it anyways?
double post.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Gigabyte-GA-MA79...em270342931598
we need to tweak the bios if possible, im realy getting annoyed that we cant increase nb voltage in bios.
Is there any info when will the new bios be ready and donwloadable? I'm rather annoyed than irritated but I really need this nb voltage increase in BIOS. :)
im irritated actualy, thinking of not buying gigabyte again. :shrug:
I would dare to guess that we will not ever see a fix for this. They have launched other boards now of same/better quality and will probly say screw the DQ6Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
The mobo is good enough which is very clearly to be seen in my results. The nb voltage is more for easy of use.Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
Oh, its a Great board no doubt. Its my favorite board but what I mean is they didnt offer much bios support before the board was EOL so now that they have new boards out of same quality Im not counting on them fixing this boards bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
Hmm. What am i doing wrong because i cant clock for :banana::banana::banana::banana: :(..
I cant get to 270HT with this board even if i raise the volts to 1.50 on the nb and the CPU with a 5x multi.
What is HTT and HTR voltage control btw?
The problem should be in you/your mobo cause mine does about 350 HT/Bus Speed with around +0.1/0.15V.
Is there someone that have already tested the newly released bios F7A?
I'm going to test it now!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
Flashing ....
First major thing fixed is DCT mode Ganged/UnGanged option available again :)
As for CPU IMC voltage control there still is no way of increasing it from BIOS.
Waiting for another BIOS (and loosing hope).
I just dont understand what could be so hard about fixing the NBv in bios. It can raised in software so its not broke. Why they would create yet another bios and still not fix this just blowes my mind :shrug:
Any stability issues? If there is no nb voltage control I'm not going to flash. I'll wait F7 final or F7b...Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Stability is as good or even better than on F6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
Before when I set HTT to 215MHz and memory to 1066 with tight timings board needed to restart twice to apply setting or I needed to set that up in two steps (first HTT, then mem timings). With new BIOS I simply set everything in one go and board rebooted nicely first time.
Overlay better feeling than F6, but I didn't do proper OCing yet.
Thanks for the info, for all that I'll try it. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
Hello!
Has anyone noticed compatibilty issues with this board and Corsair XMS2?
I had my Ph2 710 running at 3600MHz with kingston ram but when i changed ram to corsair i could not get more then 3200MHz. :shrug:
no, I had no problems with the corsair ram. It sounds like your new ram might be defaulting to a diffrent divider. Might want to double check that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joki
Which BIOS you're at?Quote:
Originally Posted by Joki
As G0ldBr1ck said check mem dividers as well. What was your HTT, HT, and multis for 3.6GHz? Voltages?
Try to put mem in different slots.
i got F7b atm, HTT 2200, HT 277x13=3600MHz. 1.5Vcore on the cpu and 2.0V at 920MHz on the ram. I have reseted the Cmos before i put the new ram in and tried to start over from scratch but no luck there. Have the ram att 700MHz now but still cant get higher:shrug:
By the way, have anyone heard if Gigabyte is going to support IMC/L3 voltage in the next bios?
Hi Joki,
If thats the NB voltage then no. I sent them an email asking if they could put a negative voltage on the memory as my OCZ blades only need 1.8 volts but lowest
i can get is 1.95 volts and while they were looking into that if they could put a positive voltge range on the NB and they said they couldn't do either.
Damn. That's ashame. Looks like im going for another mobo :rolleyes:
Hi Joki,
Have you tried PhenomMsrTweaker by Kink it's somewhere in this section and it gives the option to increase NB voltage but i don't know if it works as i've not had time to play with it yet. You can check it against AMD Overdrive to see if the settings stick. If it works it saves buying a new Mobo.
Hi HeamothoraxUK, thanks for the tip. The settings seem to stick but does the setting stick in bios? Because it always freeze at post when i got to high nb or ram frequency.
Hi Joki,
To be honest i'm not exactly sure where and when the settings are applied but all the info and author of the program
can be found in this thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=220185
Hi guys!
I've been anxiously reading this ENTIRE thread and have finally jumped the gun and bought myself a 940be! :)
My current setup is as such
940BE@3.5ghz (stock voltage)
Gigabyte GA-MA790fx-DQ6 (270fsb)
2x2gb Corsair Dominators V2.2 @1160 5-5-5-15 2.1v
Powercolor 4890 1gb (880/1000 core/mem it's a non ref card and can't o/c it much! :()
Corsair 750w psu
2x36gb Raptors
Creative Audigy (SB0090)
Watercooling (Apogee GTZ, MCW60-4870, Random Radiator, 1/2" tubing, MCP-650 and a MCRES)
I currently am booting at the above fsb and haven't really been able to get much more FSB out of it.
When in windows i use the PhenomMSRtweaker to up the nbvid from 1.175 to 1.25 and am able to push to the 280fsb mark with a x9 multi.
i am getting the following bench scores in everest
mem read 10065
mem write 8404
mem copy 11285
mem lat 46.3
cpu queen 22057
cpu photoworx 25702
cpu zlib93894
cpu aes25293
fpu julia 9469
fpu mandel 6055
fpu sinjulia 3073
I haven't really done any other benches atm, but @ 3.7ghz,2.5ghz cpu-nb,1180mem i can get it stable, but heats up too much (idles at 42-43 even with a lowered set P-1state of 1.6ghz @ 1.05v and peaks at 53-55C under a 30 min OCCT test).
For any1 else that is wondering about the raid controllers, i've found the sb600 raid controller is slow as hell when it's loading windows, but once in windows loads fine. Guessing it's a driver issue or something.
The G-Sata raid is perfect though and can get 170mb/s transfers on it.
It's also a sinch to install win7 on it! :)
Also i'm running win7 :)
I'm interested, I had some problems with RAID (slow windows boot and choppy performance and bad rating of hdd in win7) and am now starting to think it could be because I'm using the standard sb600 sata for raid instead of G-sata, altho I've read somewhere that SB600 SATA is supposedly faster? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by m0n4g3
My question however is, can I safely switch from SB600 RAID to G-SATA RAID without losing data? Will a simple re-plug of the connectors do or will I lose the entire array and have to make it from scratch again? Since on my 500GB array, I got ~ 400GB of data and I dont got extra hdd's atm to back it all up.
I believe not as it's a different raid controller. Better to be safe than sorry!Quote:
Originally Posted by -= rtz =-
I did find this issue with XP not sure about win7x64, although with 170mb/s transfers.... i dunno if it could be any quicker, specially with sata-I! *shrugs*
Any1 know if gigabyte is gonna release a bios update with the voltage increase?
Surely there will be a new bios to support the 965... we can only hope that at the same time they add support for the nb-vid being able to be change at bios...... hmmm that would make things 10x easier! :D
Well i'm jumping ship as i'm over waiting for GBT to get a bios with nb-vid adjustments.
Bought a DFI-790FXB-M2RSH.
Hopefully should see some better o/c's on the nb side of things.
Thanks guys! :)
BIOS 7D released...
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Support/M...S&FileID=15104
Thanks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by destsh
Yep, Thanks. Gonna have to dig my board out and try it.Quote:
Originally Posted by destsh
Actualy Ill wait for you to try it first Lightman. Let me know if you find any improvments if you dont mind.
i see no changes, probably just a cpu id update.
Hi all,
Bios F7g is out with Thuban Support. Thats if you have not already upgraded.