nice.. :)
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nice.. :)
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The latest Alpha BIOS and AMD System manager will allow those FSB rates now. However, if you drop a 8800 or X1950 in the board, and then run dual 32M Super PI or Orthos, your FSB rates will come down in a hurry. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
maybe not if you have a chipset block ...:D...2x gpu blocks and a cpu block too.
my kingdom for a good kentsfield and a pair of R600 :rolleyes:
btw bingo13 i would love for you to possibly post some details as to how exactly you guys managed to tweak the mobo for max performance....
especially if you're running micron D9GMH
/a little OT pic for fun
can everyone say ghetto! :P
http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h1...zor/blocks.jpg
strapped on for fun
I have a 2G kit of firestixs saved to be used in one of these
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Originally Posted by flytek
really nice.. :) hehehe :woot:
Very smart way 4 hold down [the tie wrap way] if some1 dont have thin screws , :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by flytek
I learn something today :fact:
Well I had that board, but then it didnt go over 390 FSB :( ( I didn`t know the trick with PCI-E frequency to ~120 :( ) .Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
What about the last bioses? With Conroe.. goes over ~440 FSB w/o any mod? 10x :)
Sorry for the OFF.
ok..maybe I am dense but why would this occur?????????Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
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Originally Posted by Supershanks
That's some good work you've done with the pics. I've got both the Ultra120 and the Hr-01 waiting in a closet as I'm using an AC cooler which is more than enough for my stock E6600 right now (shi-tty board). I'd rather use the Ultra to the rear fan as in pic 1. But the cooler might not get the clearance needed in the top of the P180. We'll see, but it looks possible after seeing your post. I might need to loose the top fan in the case though...
I'm gonna do an exotic air cooling setup for my rig after a get my hands on this board...
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Originally Posted by M3kk
sorry to go OT... to get 440fsb at 10x you are going to need some exotic CPU cooling and probably a volt mod on the northbridge and perhaps a VFSB mod.
UK release ETA 12/01/07
Going by the chipset temps he is pushing 2V into the NB, all well and good for brownie points but under advice from AMD I was asked to quote safe limits for voltage etc which is around 1.5V max.Quote:
Originally Posted by mascaras
We can do the same speeds here no problem...safer bet though is a high multi CPU just like it is on the 975 boards
As this board finds its way into more hands before release, I suspect we'll see a few more "I got 5XX FSB!!! on my RD600". 2007 is gonna start pretty well for the enthusiast community with the RD600 & Abit IN9-Max 32. Tony have you got yours yet? When you get a chance to toy with it, most of us would really like to know which of the two boards you "enjoyed" overclocking the most.
I have IN9, just got it booted up and started tests. You need to have a fan on the CPU header for it to boot and im water cooling so at first I thought the board was dead :(
Anyway...i will start a new thread with some early results, this one belongs to the RD600 ;)
T
wow :D
ahhh.. hope this boards will be on retail soon.. ive been conroe less for a month now.. :(
waaaa..
bingo13 could you post pics of your setup.. :)
Yep it passed the time :). I'd prefer to use my ultra to the rear as well & have modded my lian -li to handle the overhang from a big cooler. Conroe Ready:) Modded Lian -Li V2000b+Quote:
Poodle -
That's some good work you've done with the pics. I've got both the Ultra120 and the Hr-01 waiting in a closet as I'm using an AC cooler which is more than enough for my stock E6600 right now (shi-tty board). I'd rather use the Ultra to the rear fan as in pic 1. But the cooler might not get the clearance needed in the top of the P180. We'll see, but it looks possible after seeing your post. I might need to loose the top fan in the case though...
Just dissapointed that it appears that after market coolers won't fit the r600 nb.
luck:)
So basically with a lower multi cpu, you're still better off with a P965 board?
performance-wise NO!
Given the poor RAID performance being reported by a couple of sources on i680 boards vs. intel (see this thread), I'm curious how the HDTach results look for a RAID 0 array on this board?
Can anyone provide some?
read back bud, i posted some
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=474
You do not want a Kentsfield on this board if you plan on overclocking at this time. I am finding that a 345FSB or a little less is the absolute best for running a stable system. The board will POST up to 401x9 but is not worth anything more than a good screenshot. DFI has started to tune for Kentsfield now but I still expect the 975/965 boards to be the best bet for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Right after CES I should have our part two article up along with the BIOS settings for maximum performance.
On a side note - I did 545 on the RD600 with an old FX5200 card (too much heat and power draw with an 8800GTX to get past 530), voltages to their limits, Alpha BIOS, and it failed SP 1M three out of four times but by God I could get a screenshot of the one time it passed. :D I just love the run and gun results. :rolleyes:
hahaha...:D
looking foreward to the expanded article :)
shamino did some messing with gtl-ref voltage and claimed to get an extra 30fsb from a kentsfield...but you've probably tried that allready.
his write up is on his site vr-zone.com
after the tweaks he said he could almost reach the fsb he achieved with a p5b-dlx iirc.
Sorry... thanks Tony. Would be nice to see a test with 4 drives in RAID 0 to compare with the peak output of the other chipsets that have all been tested with 4x 150GB Raptors (where i680 is looking bad), but I understand you probably test with what you have on hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Hopefully when people get these in their hands, we will see more RAID benching.
you guys heard about the latest delay >> March
what are the REAL issues plaguing these Tony? Surely you would have encountered some serious issues that are not allowing them to release these motherboards
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Originally Posted by dinos22
Are you not thinking of the R600 ?
Looks like the Street and DFI are having probs. There may not be anymore street by the looks of it. If not I wont be buying this board as planned.
:eek: I smelled this - been waiting for the board for more than 3 month but now I'm happy to stay with my ASUS.........;)Quote:
Originally Posted by MsB
:toast:
yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by Devious
That sucks!
ok..so R600 is delayed but not the RD600??
Hmm..DFI street and DFI parted ways guess I am not surprised by HG recent rants..too bad
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Originally Posted by dinos22
WTF?? Explain please, I have not heard anything about that. Are you talking about the LP ICFX3200? Can be possible? A 3 months delay? DFI is crazy if that is true...
Overclockers UK has the RD600 on pre-order so I would be very surprised if it was that board that is delayed until March.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
I'm going to take a wild guess and say that the closing of DFI-Street is going to stop quite a few enthusiasts buying DFI's as they always seem to release their boards a little buggy and it was one place where people could get together to fix them as a community. That's how it was with my Infinity and Ultra-D anyway!
I dunno m8, Both Gary and I were told Jan launch, we reported this as this was what were were told.Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
i have NOT heard officially it has gone back to march but i did here 3 days ago it was sort of unofficially so i pretty much feel its fact.
DFI are going thru a lot of changes as you have seen, i have a feeling they are regrouping and getting refocused.
Also DFI support will be back very soon, the loss of the street is bad but they will have to move on and a plan is already in place.
according to some rumors it's ATI's R600 that's delayed to march(but that's a rumor that still needs to be confirmed)
I was waiting for this board(at least some reviews)but i think there won't be any Dfi anymore in the future...:(
A reply from an e-mail sent by someone off from a different forum to DFI
Dear Customer,
Thanks for your E-mail. First of all, www.dfi-street.com is owned by Mr. Travis Hill (Angry_Game). We paid him as a contractor to support our customers on his forum for years. Recently, he posted some improper message on the forum that hurts the relationship between www.dfi-street.com and DFI. That’s why we terminate the contract with him starting from 1/4/07. We’ll have another forum to support DFI M/B users later.
Thanks again
DFI San Jose
Just to confirm, this thread is about the RD600, so are people talking about the RD600 being stupidly delayed or the R600? Are they even different, or the same chip being refered to as two different things by different people?!Quote:
Originally Posted by bloodbanger
Yeah I got the same spam response. I think it may have been what he said about this board. he was very honest about it and they probably didn't appreciate it(thats pure speculation, don't run to the bank with it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Brum Man
Guys
I will try and find out if there is an RD600 delay...its late though and I fly to vegas sunday.
For now lets think its still on track untill i get more info.
So the rumors of a delay till March for RD600 are possible...if this trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Tony
I cant wait 3 more months for this mobo
The RD600 is not delayed, dinos I believe already stated he meant R600 (graphics card). Above is the last known issue with the boards and reason for delay of the planned "just before or just after christmas release". DFI engineers are working on improving kensfield support at this time. There are no new problems to speak of to cause a delay of the RD600 'til March.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bulldog14
Ok I have some INFO.
200 pieces are expected in the UK next week, more then a few weeks later. I have no Idea about the USA shipment but I can say they usually split the shipment 50/50 so you may see some in the USA next week also.
Nothing is set in stone though, i asked and i got this info but with the statement i like to see the boards before i say they are here ;)
i think we will see them next week ;)
DFI street gone...not surprised....This is the best thing DFI could have done.
Noww lets hope they sort out there support issues, along with releasing a near stable board
Topboy
it's a bit confusing,2 completely different pieces of hardware and 1 one letter difference,i know:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Brum Man
People are talking here about the RD600 chipset,the delay untlii march is for the R600 GRAPHIC CARD:(
Ontopic:i always read the name Dfi in lots of reviews but never had any mobo from them,but this one looked promising:stick: ...now i'm not sure anymore...i mean,i was trying to put a rig together,but now with the supposedly delayed R600 and the difficult choice to pick a decent mobo,i think i'll buy a Xbox 360 instead:D
well loook at this:
01/12/07 in stock, and the forum admin says its been shipped out, so eta is correct:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=22168
should i pull the trigger?
sorry guys i completely misread a thread at OCAU......you are right it's R600 that's delayedQuote:
Originally Posted by The Nemesis
sorry Tony....i jumped the gun there....
i am glad you posted that as i thought they are just winding that side of business completely.........i stopping visiting DFI-Street because of AGQuote:
Originally Posted by Brum Man
Hmm..how are they getting any given small shipments...$263 US not badQuote:
Originally Posted by justin_c
But still 200 boards for the UK, and 200 US..this seems so ridiculous why the small shipment numbers.....so the retailers can gouge us on price...?????????????????:banana: :banana: :banana: :slapass:
I'm seriously considering this.Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_c
not me did you see shipping costs...Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxis1452
I think Badaxe2 is much better deal...
I am so pissed about RD600...a month later than Dec 15 delivery and now..200 boards ..Jeez
Have to agree. I just bought a Bad Axe 2 for ~$208 shipped. I just couldn't wait any longerQuote:
Originally Posted by nealh
$25 for express shipping ain't that bad. The price isn't bad considering newegg is going to go $300+ for this. I'd bet on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
I dont disagree..$263 + $20= $283..I would pay the extra for newegg CSQuote:
Originally Posted by Praxis1452
true but I get taxed too. 7% now. highest tax out of all states I think too. NJ's damn budget issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by nealh
well that sucks...Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxis1452
7% in FL but no tax from newegg..:woot:
Compare NY real estate to NJ, then complain about NJ taxes. :(
Yep my Asus P5B WI FI will be going up for sale as well. Everything on it will be moved over to the RD600Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
Jason
Tony, Do think a CM Stacker Case with a Crossflow fan mounted and a Tuniq Tower will be enough to get good performance out of the board. I do not own phase so I know I am not going to get to the overclocking extreme, but I would like to get the max OC I can on Air. Given that the Chipset cooler right now is a limiting issue, I wonder if you would think that this is the ideal case for aircooling.
Thanks
Jason
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Originally Posted by ComicDom1
Welcome to XS. :)
Sure it will work. The stacker and a Tuniq should be a good combo. Check out other threads for more info on C2D air cooling, search the forum. There is no "ideal case" as taste has the final say. Now let's not get more off topic here...
have you figured out what 3T is faster in superpi than 2T and 1T LOL
that's a strange one......i didn't even know 3T was possible heheh
tried adjusting GTL ref volts ? shamino got 380-390FSB with QX6700 on ICFX3200 IIRCQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo13
man, seeing there will be only 200 boards in the UK, that means DFI Europe will ship any of the boards here never... at least we have a distributor here and not just a reseller so I maybe have a chance to get one fast...
One of those boards in the UK has my name on it...
It does seem strange that 200 are going to UK and 200 to the U.S. I bet those in the U.S will be snapped up while not many wil be sold in the U.K. Theres not much enthiusiasm on the OCuk forums for them.
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Originally Posted by marauder16
If you want it right away you should get it from overclockers.co.uk
Croatia and Sweden might not get any of these 200 board, I'm affraid... Not "dobro" buisness for us :(
I think you will end up waiting otherwise. I'm considering the Bad Axe 2 now as it seems to be more future proof and easier to get. I have no clue what I will end up with though. It's a 50-50 bet...
-wow, you're a second Swede who knows even a word of Croatian (the first was Rasco), I'm impressed, didn't know that many people even know about Croatia :toast:Quote:
Not "dobro" buisness for us
- around here probably no one except me will buy that board, I think, well more chance for me to get one :D
My boat as well....dying for a mobo and BadAxe 2 looks nice....Quote:
Originally Posted by Poodle
I really want this board..but how is support going to be...so much in the air with DFI...I wish they would at least make some company line on support etc
Guys the word was 200 boards to start in UK, not all of EU ;)
I have a feeling there are a lot more than 400 total.
well hopefully this board comes at the end of this month as some places in here are saying and as the price seems to be around ~260€ i'm tempted to get one.
so which is going to be king asus commando or RD600 DFI?
My money is on the Commando. But the independent FSB/Memory coupling is a massive feature the RD600 board has to offer. So if you don’t require excessively high FSB speeds and prefer the independent (complete asynchronous) memory speed, then go with the RD600. But the DFI 680i board may be better thatn the RD600, who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by pie_uk
All I know, is I can’t wait for the Asus Commando board. This plus my E6300, makes me happy :D
The Commando will set records ;)
Yes, I am using the last public release BIOS, not the latest Alpha for final testing. ;) I can get the board to run most benchmarks at 9x385 but have to drop all the way down to 345 in order to complete the entire test suite. It does not matter if memory is at 3-3-3-6 or 5-5-5-15 either.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
yes, its between DFI rd600 and asus commando 965 for me also.
im just wondering WHY this is performing so bad, in terms of max fsb. and yes, complete async is very useful.
It's this or infinity or BadAxe2. I'm running CF and would have a choice with a nvidia chipset but it seems they are locking out CF by registry overwriting which is completely wrong.
How many CF boards does one need:fact:Quote:
Originally Posted by Praxis1452
since when does 975X offer fsb as good as the RD600. The RD600 isn't great for it but 1.5v will get me to aroune 450fsb and then the memory options are amazing. So not most CF boards suck. 965P is craptastic with 4x.Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
Having a very hard time deciding on either the RD600 or the commando :stick: I guess either of them are improvements over the P5B Deluxe, however I dont think the DFI board will fit in my case with a tuniq because of the socket placement :nono:
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Originally Posted by justin_c
500fsb with your 9x multi 6600 is performing so bad?
That'll give you up to 4.5ghz to play with on a 6600. I have yet to see someone use a 6600 24/7 over 4.2-4.4ghz and with your air cooling you arent going to get better than 3.9ghz and thats even if your particular cpu is capable.
Its async as you said so you can run your memory as high or as low as you want so whats your beef with the fsb constraints. The only people that can be disappointed with fsb are 6400 and 6300 users with sufficient cooling to run their cpus at high 24/7 ocs.
500fsb stable is no small feat. Many 965 boards can hit this super pi 1m, some a little more. But 24/7 500fsb is way cool. More than enough for all users with air and water. Anyone using phase should not even have anything less than an e6600, if they have any common sense.
well said.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
ahh.. hope to see this board on retail soon.. :)
I haven't followed this thread for some time and Im wondering if there have been any 4x1Gb ram testing? :D
After many benches and suggestions, i think the Asus Motherboards are Nr.1 and DFI are Nr.2 (i thought DFI would be the best board, i thought wrong) :(
Depends on your expectations...not to mention the RD isn't even in the hands of any consumers yet....Quote:
Originally Posted by GNU
In light of what's currently going on with DFI...tech support chaos and the failed launch of the RD600 ...looks like they have some major things that they need to sort out.
I thought that Travis'/AG's/HG's review of the RD600 based board was quite interesting and was a review that had the customers wallet in mind as opposed to the company's bottom line in mind.
DFI are only hurting themselves (enthusiast branch of the company) by continuing to delay the release of this board. More and more people are giving up on this board and completing their builds with other makers boards.
One has to wonder...what is DFI thinking???
Later!!
SB
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Originally Posted by Gascogne
This has been asked LONG ago, and no-one seems to know/have any answers...:horse:
It works fine, as far as overclocking 4x1GB, those numbers will be up next week. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gascogne
Seems the only people who will ever have this board are the reviewers. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Speederlander
I hope not.. :(
a little more to wait.. :) I think It will be out ext week.. :) hehehe
any more details??
yes...dfi has a new support forum up already
dfi clubQuote:
Originally Posted by flytek
Well it was known at least already before a week that actual availability will be no sooner than the 9th of January, and most likely around the 12th or so.
This board has been promised and promised. Unitl I see this thing for sale in quantity, as far as I'm concerned it's vaporware.:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrlobber
wow..RGone is over there...DFI really cut ties just with Travis!!!
I guess RGone and Travis were not seeing things the same way
Travis may have been a bit too honest..he bit the hand that fed him
I just got a nice prixe on the BX2 and I pulled the trigger... Good luck guys I hope that the DFI will prove to be worth the long wait. :)
sorry if this has been asked what does this mobo clock like with the quad cores?
Does it have a 300 FSB limit like the 680i with quad?
Yes but i have changed my opinion after i have read the post of HG at DFI-Streets (Forum is closed for a while). HG have said his opinion about the RD600 (he had made a lot of benches).Quote:
Originally Posted by OldGuy
which was ?
Lets not get into the negative of one disgruntled DFI employee's opinion...as that is all that it was. Wait until Joe consumer (me and others like me) get the board and we have lots of benchies to compare before throwing out the notion of buying this board.
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Originally Posted by steelballzz
You MUST have your papers in order there Comrade........:rolleyes:
just FYI,
as mentioned before, coolaler is able to run the highest fsb (553fsb) and ram speed (1300mhz) and posted his results in the club 2 days ago (couldnt find the info here) > http://csd.dficlub.org/pgpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=69
please read tony's comments though > http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1015
so, prolly best bet to see its daily performance is waiting it to hit the retail market...
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...5&postcount=28Quote:
Originally Posted by qdemn7
:banana:
So, with all these "mega" clocks, were any of them done with 2 ATI cards in CROSSFIRE perhaps????