Makes them feel "special"Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
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Makes them feel "special"Quote:
Originally Posted by Haltech
Yes I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by lkraven
larywild you were DEFINITELY out of line here, and you OWE Nemesis and everyone else an apology. People are NOT supposed to send out prereleases, doing so is a violation of trust from the company, yet EVERYONE and their momma seems to want them and does not care anyway. Yet he tried to do you a favor by doing something he really was not authorized to do, and things went wrong and you blasted him for it, which may have basically RUINED his chances of getting more test BIOSes. Because he was trying to help you and you screwed him.
Think about it.
Next time KEEP YOUR DISPUTES TO PRIVATE MESSAGES AND INSTANT MESSENGERS. You never know what negative effect something like this can have on people.
Imagine if someone had offered to give you an Engineering sample and something went wrong at the post office and you blasted him on a public forum. Who knows what legal problems you can cause by that crap?
Assuming the chipset clocks the same way P965 does (which it should), lower multies won't do much good without higher straps, which will results in lower performance clock-for-clock. And lower multies under same 1066 strap will only get you even lower FSB due to internal clock being higher under lower multies at a given FSB.
Has anybody been in contact with Asus about those sub memory settings?
tRFC, and others would be nice in bios :)
Could somebody up those 1404 and 1405 bioses somewhere?
i sometimes have the same problem...not running any raid on my system (yet) booting without gfx and then putting back gfx normally solves the issue, but it shouldnt be like that. It doesnt happen everytime but just random.Quote:
Originally Posted by lkraven
How could you use the JMicron controller for raid anyways? None of the four SATA cables that came with my mobo fit in the rear slot?? :confused:
t
Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
While i agree with your comments and i think this should be left to the 2 people involved to discuss offline, shouting and swearing about this is also a no no.
Fair enough. I suspect they probably already resolved it (hopefully), and with no lasting ill effects for Nemesis....
I'm getting an issue where the BIOS keeps freezing. It's weird, the blue bar along the top keeps shimmering (as if it's not crashed), but I have to use the reset switch to reboot as the keyboard doesn't respond. This is with 1305. After a couple of resets it's then ok. Once it's at desktop it's fine, never skips a beat during SP2004, Super Pi and extended gaming sessions.
Mine is doing that too, but it has something to do with detecting whatever it's trying to detect (fans/voltages etc). Just let it use its time (shouldn't take more than 30-40 seconds though).Quote:
Originally Posted by Roch
Thanks for that, I'll try to be a bit more patient. ;)
Give me feedback if simply waiting works or not. It's always possible you have a different problem than me. :)
if you make the floppy from dos, it makes it with the correct ich7r drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxtra
very truly yours,
politenessman
I apologize to all that this situation found its way to the forums & this thread. That said, I've moved on and learned a valuable lesson:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Falkentyne
http://img.techpowerup.org/060919/42...nchmark565.jpg
What are your core temps like at 1.65 vCore?
57' to 62'C during the 3DMark06 test. Freaking 76'C during orthos. I don't run over 1.5vcore on this cpu other than benching. It has proven to be not orthos stable over 3.7ghz @ any vcore, but it had the highest overclock @ auto vcore of any 6600 I've owned.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThorinMan
Hello every one. I bought this board as well, with a E6600 and 2 corsair sticks, 1 gig each (800) , and I cant get this thing to post. I tried with one stick, and even bought a cheap stick at bestbuy and that didnt even work.
What it does is, everything turns on, fans, lights and such, it sounds like the raptor tries to run a little, but thats it. The monitor always shows nothing at all, as if its not connected. It did work fine for a few days, I rana few games at max to see what it could do, and just last sat it went died and the enermax psu fan went full speed.
Im not sure if it has to do with the fact that I forgot to set anything up in bios, like the rams volts, to 2.1. I think the default setting for that is like 1.8. Could that be it? And if so, how would i get it to post so i can get to bios and set everything up?
have you tried clearing the cmos lostsoul?
Hey Nemesis no need to make apologies for someone else mistake.
Yes, Ill tell you how I did it, just to make sure I did it right. Im semi new at building systems. I unplugged it, took out the batt, placed the jumper on clear, waited 30 sec, placed the jumper back, placed the batt back, and plugged it back in and turned it back on, and the same thing happens, it all goes on, all lights, all fans work, but no posting. Oh, one thing I forgot, I am using the 7950 as the video card.Quote:
Originally Posted by AeroSquid
Sorry if you already covered these items, but which BIOS do you have, and did you make sure to connect both the 20+4-pin and 4-pin PSU connectors?Quote:
Originally Posted by lostsoul
-phil
I was wondering.. I am getting my heatsink and fan tomorrow and a bunch of other stuff. I have the p5w-dh deluxe and the x6800. I was wondering if someone can post a screenie of bios settings and various other settings for a max air overclock or at least so I can ballpark or compare what I am getting to others. This thread got so big after taking several hours to read it... well.. its big. Any specific help for me or shall i start a new thread for people with the x6800?
Thanks.
oh i forgot to mention i have the ocz gamestream 700w and the ocz ddr28000 voltage extreme 2 gb all in the thermaltake mozart tower. i bought the scythe infinity for cooling along with 10 120 mm fans.
These settings yeilded me a bit over 3.3 ghz default voltages on my L628 E6600. There's a link to a screenie of it in my sig. It should be no troube for X6800 just keep in mind my multiplier is 9.
ASUS P5WDH Dlx Stock Overclock Settings
CPU : E6600
DDR2 : G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) F2-6400PHU2-2GBHZ
Bios : 1305
VGA : 2 eVGA 7900GT's SLI modified drivers
HDD : Two WD 320GB Serial ata raid
PSU : OCZ GameXStream 700w
OS : WinXp Pro SP2
OVERCLOCK (MHz) = 3306Mhz
BIOS SETTINGS
JumperFree Configuration
AI Overclocking set to: MANUAL
CPU Frequency : 367MhZ
DRAMM Frequency :735Mhz
Performance Mode :Auto
PCI Express Frequency : 100Mhz
PCI Clock Sync Mode : 33.33Mhz
Memory Voltage : 2.1v
CPU Vcore Voltage : Auto
FSB Termination V : Auto
MCH Chipset V : Auto
ICH Chipset V : Auto
--------------------------------------------------------
CPU Configuration
Microcode Update : Enabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
Execute Disable Function : Disabled
CPU Internal Thermal Control : Disabled
Virtualization Technology : Enabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology : Disabled
--------------------------------------------------------
Advanced Chipset Settings (DDR2)
Configure DRAM Timing By SPD : MANUAL
DRAM CAS Latency : 4
DRAM RAS Precharge : 4
DRAM RAS To CAS Delay : 4
DRAM RAS Activate to Precharge Delay : 12
DRAM Write Recovery Time : 4
Hyper Path 3 : Disabled
DRAM Throttling : Disabled
__________________
Guys, what the hell is Microcode update? I could not find any info about this setting?
I played around with it a bit and got it to over 3.5 ghz with the stock cooler. I dont want to run it faster until I got osmething blowin on the memory sticks. My coretemp was 50 so far nothing higher. I think and hope to hit well over 4 ghz.
Yes, I did that, but I also connected the axtra 4 pins with the PSU connection, but that worked fine for a few days. Not sure if that was the right thing to do tho. I tried connecting just the 4 pin and leaving the other 4 pins out, and nothing. I never upgraded the bios, so its the original bios that came with the board, not sure any more, cant get in hehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by phile
Hmm, maybe it's just me but I've noticed a slight speed boost in updating my ethernet drivers (September 13) v8.57.2.3. Just for those who didn't notice the update... :P. My internet has been lagging so maybe it's just me.
Hi,Quote:
Originally Posted by Super Nade
I've found an information but it is too old dated...
"What is 'micro code update'? Well, all of Intel's 6th-generation processors have a little area that can store some software ('micro code') to deal with processor bugs right inside the CPU. Usually the motherboard BIOS loads this software into the processor right after boot-up. Each time Intel finds a new bug they try to create a new little software patch that is called 'micro code update'. These 'micro code updates' make the processor more reliable, but they always cost a bit of performance, because they basically turn off some internal features."
Reference: http://www.tomshardware.com/2000/07/31/intel/index.html
Thanks,
Hicks
Aka "The Hurricane Tunnel" .. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyshango
You can find the BIOS version number written on a sticker that's on a socketed chip at the end of the middle PCI socket. Look for something like 0502, 0701, 1101 or similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommyshango
In many people's experiences that sticker number has been inaccurate. Mine says 0701 but was shipped with 0801.
What bios is considered to be the best right now? 1402? I should be getting this board in a few days, so it would be nice to know.
Bios 1305 seems to be the most stable bios right now, personally I am using 1401 and it is working well. From some of the comments here it seems 1402/1403/1404/1405 are very much in development, and I am going to wait until they settle on a more final version before changing to a newer version.
Adjustable multipliers were implementet from bios 1402 and up, correct?
correct, works on mine with 1402Quote:
Originally Posted by jagt
Righ okay. What's wrong with bioses from 1402 and up then? I see alot of people avoid using them. Are they very beta-ish? If so, what are the "symptoms"?
1403 bios seems to oc better than the 1402 bios, or at least for me. Also reducing the multiplier, as said before tends to require more voltage.
more voltage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Timmaah
I can run 380x8 at 1.65 but can't even boot 370x10 at 1.65!
I'm running 1402
Weird, with my Vmch modded P5WDH (BIOS 1402) MCH voltage goes in hand with FSB voltage :eek:
FSB= 1.40V + MCH= 1.50V --> 1.567V (measured)
FSB= 1.50V + MCH= 1.50V --> 1.652V (measured)
is that normal or what:confused:
weird sure you didn't do the mod incorrectly ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dani
The mod is ok, nothing wrong there..
Mobo is "1.65Vmch version"
I also have problems with vmch.I've done all the mods(except vfsb) but i cannot raise the vmch above 1.75v.If I set 1.76v the pc boots but there is no display.This is a problem with my 6600gt card,because if i use a pci one i can raise it more than 2v!
Another serious problem i have is the fsb on boot.I cannot raise it above 410 in bios,but i can 450+ in windows.Has anyone found any solution to this?
My board is one of the first that were made with 401 bios.I've used many of the new bioses and now i have 1403.
<-------Having no new bios posted withdrawl symptoms.:yawn:
^lol...
ive tried the latest bioses and all i get is a XP bar loading screen that freezes.
The only way back to my desktop is by setting F5 (save all defaults).
It's a real crapper. :(
probably shouldve specified which voltage i meant, im on about vcore voltage, with the multiplier set to x9 i can get 3.0ghz on stock voltages, with the multiplier set to x8 and fsb of 375 instead of 333x9 the pc wont even boot up.Quote:
Originally Posted by catscit
ive found similar problems...Quote:
Originally Posted by deadlock7
i cant boot with my MCH mod reading higher than the BIOS setting when i have a single video card in but i can boot @ 2.0V + (MCH) when i have both cards in (see sig)
IMO once you mod (any mobo) all bets are off on whats "normal".
PS just like your FSB boot limit, you can raise the MCH voltage higher once the rig has booted (but i have noticed a "video card related" limit on that also)
Dani,
once i get the Camel Pipe back from MikeG, ill see if my V-fsb effects my V-MCH
i'm thinking of running my conroe 6600 @ stock speed cuz it runs too hot oc'ed IMO. @3.2ghz it's almost 60 degrees on full load. @3.6 it idles in the mid 50's. too hot. my question is should I set vcore to auto @stock or should I bump it up an increment or two cuz of vdroop? i have it @stock now with vcore 1 step up from default. idles @36-37 degrees. wouldn't mind getting it down another degree or two if you guys think it's ok to drop it down. please let me know cuz I'm a novice at this stuff. thanks.
What cooler/paste etc. are you using?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxtra
arctic silver 5 and the big typhoon in an antec p180 case with the front fan disconnected. @3.2ghz and the side panel off it maxes out 57 degrees on full load. seems to hot for me. must sound silly in this forum.
I have that same case, if you disconnect the front fan, you don't really have anything bringing cool air into it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxtra
i used to have it on but it's pointed the wrong way. air blowing out and plus it makes my pc louder. so at stock should i set it to auto or compensate for big vdroop? i don't know anything about this. does vdroop get worse the more a pc is oc'ed? is it not so bad at stock speed? i'm expecting my very first good video card (1950xtx)in the mail thursday so i'd like to get this settled before I play f.e.a.r. and oblivion. I've never owned a video card that cost more than $70 before.
You can just flip it around then... All the fans that came with my case also had a little white control attached which allowed 3 different speed settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mxtra
the low setting is the only one my ears find acceptable. i doubt it'll make a difference on low. I have another issue that made me revert to stock. if I overclock my pc for more than a day and I run a multithread program like nero recode or svcd2dvd, the second core does nothing. i reboot and try it again and suddenly both cores are being used. i'm now running at stock to find out if the same thing will happen. i also convinced myself to be responsible and try to make this pc last for many years instead of killing it quickly so i'll have an excuse for quad core.
ok I have seen other members post this same question , but have yet to see a difinitive answer. Here is the scenerio; try a higher oc , add a lil more volts and prime crashes in a few seconds. Ok add another bump on voltage and it last a few minutes, but the next bump on voltage makes the comp restart during prime. Any following voltage after that has the same results, Prime does not error my comp restarts. I have verified its not a ram issue with several runs of memtest, I also have tried adding voltage to MCH and FSB ( i have maxed them ) and still recieve the same results.
Any Ideas?
Hey guys what's the max fsb on the P5W DH??
asus website says 400 but it doesn't seem like that's the case.
When I get to this point, I accept I've reach the limit of the current configuration. That could mean the cpu has reached its limit with the cooling being used or it can also mean the chipset cannot handle the stress prime is placing on it @ such a high FSB. The only way to know if the board can't handle the high fsb is to try same FSB with a lower multiplier. For example, there was no way for me to know my board could do orthos stable with my E6600 @ 440 FSB because my cpu would only complete 32mb pi @ 3960Mhz. Lowering the multiplier to 8 made it 3520 which was passed orthos over 12 hours. Had this failed it would tell me it was my chipset since my system was already 12 hours orthos stable @ 400 X 9 = 3600mhz with less volts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kemp3
why the south brige its soo damm hot, temp is 80-85c, can remove de plate whit name asus, and put one 40mm fan ?
Alot of people have but I am unsure if removing the plate voids Asus's 3 yr warranty on the motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by EJTREM3
80C is ridiculous. You may want to RMA the board. It could just be that the heatsink is not making good contact with the ICH7R chip, but you do risk voiding the warranty by removing and reseating it with a fresh application of thermal compound. Removing the heatsink caps will help, but not enough to bring a temp of 80C down to normal.Quote:
Originally Posted by EJTREM3
-phil
I pulled my SB sink off to put AS5 between it and the chip and only the very edges of the factory thermal paste were making contact with the chip!!!! the whole entire chip middle was totally spanking clean.. crazy! I would take your sinks off and take a look to make sure they're making contact well.. I am really glad I did. whew.Quote:
Originally Posted by phile
1305 goes to 550.Quote:
Originally Posted by ineedaname
Same thing here on my board.
Only edges of SB were touching heatsink.
SB sink is banana.
Here is the 1405 bios
http://www.spec3.net/asus/P5W-DH-ASUS-Deluxe-1405.rar
Before flashing to this bios I was limited to 405FSB stable. I've only tried upto 440FSB, but it's stable so far on a stock board.
:woot:
zomg I love you Steve :D
t
Interesting info.I thought that the problem was that my card can't stand lot of volts and i was going to buy a new one.If you have the same problems with a single card and you can get 2v with cf,then i don't know what is going on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe Camel
A friend of mine doesn't have any problem getting vmch 1.9(he hasn't tried more yet) with a single 1900xtx,so i'm confused again.
The vmch doesn't help getting fsb more than 414 on boot.If i set 415 i get blank screen,even with a pci card(that it helps me get 2v mch).The same friend also had fsb boot problem around 405,but he flashed back to 801 bios and then he could boot fine 450+.Now he uses the 1403 and raises fsb just like doing it in windows.I tried it too,but no luck..
I'm at 460FSB now :)
ist this final or beta?
Beta
460 @ ? mch
1.85
do you know if it support ES chips ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
I assume it's just like all the other 140x files we've seen. If they support it so does this one.
Thanks! Gotta try that 1405 bios tomorrow morning.
Damn eveningshift :(
My board doesn't seem to want to run over 450FSB stable now, but 45 extra FSB from a bios flash aint bad. Now I wait for 1406 :)
yes all the 140x bios work ok for es i have a 6700 and its fine, also downward multiplier works from bios
I am wondering why most people want a new bios. I am running 701 and everything is working great. Can boot into windows 01 stable at 445Mhz, after that my cpu is at its end I suppose.
The only annoying thing is the nic loosing drivers and the silly restart behaviour which I doubt wont be disabled with just a simple bios update.
I am almost sure Asus doesnt try to make the board more overclocker friendly with bios updates as themajority of people who buy the board dont know what overclocking is.
Never change a running system, so unless you have major problems, dont flash t he bios in hope for better oc results. Maybe other components are the limiting factor.
Of course I am always praying for a new unbelievable oc behavior after a bios update, but experiance has shown that thats rarely the case :)
Lower mults?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3ak
Why do I want to lower the multiplier? 4ghz is fast enough if you ask me ;) ven 3.6Ghz is enough for 24/7 usage.
But Allendale users might want to have that option. Didnt know it was included in latest Bios files. So I might give it a go to :)
So the early adopters are outta luck? Are we stuck with 1.65V?:(Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
Link down :(Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=116777 :slapass:
-phil
ASUS launches Intel Core duo 2 P5N32-SLI Premium/WiFi-AP Nvidia Nforce 590 Quad SLI with 3 x PCIe x16 for a third PCI Express x16 slot / Nvidia's upcoming Physics card
http://www.asus.com/news_show.aspx?id=4329
hope it clocks :D
hmm just saw that , angry for some benches with that mobo :D
that's a huge difference there!Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveOCZ
439 on an 8x multi was the best I could ever boot and run with my P5W DH D, then again I had one that only did 1.65v on the MCH :( I had great pi times with it though.
I just pulled that copper cover off the NB heat sink. When I did this, I pulled the heatsink from the chip. I dont really want to OC this rig with my e6600 that much, Is it ok if I just snug it back in, or do I need to replace the compound now?
you should really pull the sink off to remove that cover anyways.. You can just push it back on.. wiggle it side to side /very/ gently as you push down (gently) so the thermal compound makes contact with the whole chip top.. the Asus compound is kind of dry and puddy like..
hi bros out there,
Anyone of of u guys using the P5W DH DELUXE with sycthe ninja plus??? Is it compatible???? UIRgent
i've having this problem all my USB ports can only be used when only i remove the firewire port. Y is this so??? how am i gonna use my firewire port then.
if i were to install the firewire port only myI/O panel USB can only be used... any of u guys having the same problems,..
REGARDS
Here's an excellent thread (though not in English) about the P5W-DH with a database of overclocks along with links to the latest everything, including 1405 bios:
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/forum/showthread.php?t=256507
I'm looking for help with Dual Channel RAM. My memory is currently running in Single Channel mode.
I. I have two 1 GB Dimms in Dimm A1 and A2 - it will post in this config
A. Whenever I try ro run them in Dimm A1 and B1 it won't post
B. Whenever I try to run them in Dimm A2 and B2 it won't post
C. Whenever I try to run them in Dimm B1 and B2 it won't post
Basically, whenever I insert a module into either Channel B Dimm, it will not post. This occurs all the time, i.e bench testing, no graphics card, no overclocking, overclocking...
I have two more 1 GB modules I would like to install but I seem to be missing something.
Any help?
whats type of speeds should i be getting with HD tach running 2x 74 gig raptors,with the p5w dh?i was hopeing that they would be faster then the asus nf4 sli del.
cheers
Another good one here alot of people using P5W
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1075792
Thanks for everyone's input on this forum it has helped me get my E6660 right where I wanted it and stable. 3.25ghz Thanks again!
So where is this mysterious 1405 official release?
Just tried out SLI (2 x el cheapo 7300GTs) for the 1st time on my P5W the past week and noticed certain strange quirks about RAM being reported differently by the mobo, Windows and CPU-Z.
Installed is 2 x 1 GB sticks = 2048MB - everything reported OK without SLI. With SLI, the mobo POST reports as 1920MB (OK, kind of expected), Windows as 1.6GB (WTH, @%%!) while CPU-Z maintained at 2048MB.
Is something being configured wrongly? Looked around but can't seem to find a good answer, TIA.
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/3...pertiesmk1.pnghttp://img115.imageshack.us/img115/8917/cpuzramih2.png
PS: regarding the RAM timings - still have to run my RAM at SPD on my P5W mobo till now.
What an odd problem. Do you have vdimm set to the rated voltage? Probably 2v-2.2v.Quote:
Originally Posted by sherpa13
What happens if you run two dimms in the B channel, with no dimms in the A channel?
-phil
Do those cards steal RAM under the guise of making video ram larger? If so, thats obviously what you are seeing... if not... dunno...Quote:
Originally Posted by MacClipper
t
AFAIK, the 7300GT cards do not utilise any TurboCache style RAM stealing.
It would smoke your Nforce 4 setup IF you setup the Matrix raid.Quote:
Originally Posted by ppcli
Problem: DVD drive spins at 2x max on intel port
solution: buy a longer cable and use the jmicron port
its all i or asus could come up with besides RMA
My NEC ND-3520 works fine in intel port.