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It's all about finding the boards max.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
Imagine one could find mem that does 400MHz....
And like Ubermann says, it was fun! :D
Good job man...I shall try 420 as well...I have yet to try that...I will try it tonight
Ubermann add me to your message list Yahoo! or AIM
heyz
http://clientes.netvisao.pt/npa1987/ximamaxhtt.jpg
with 5x multi PC don´t boot (error "Detecting array")
man...i think, i've got the worst Board ever produced by DFI....it even won't make a HTT of 300MHz !!!!
i even set EVERYTHING @ timings on AUTO except of the divider (1/2)....FSB set @ 300MHz with 1/2-divider = DRAM-frequency of 150MHz....
mutli set @ 6.....i even won't boot-up clear.....it craps out at the drive-detection-screen in the beginning and hangs up.....
what to do? :(
Get yourself a ClawHammer. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
All 400+ results are ClawHammers.
Do you run "command per clock" disable ?
Enabled and you get real good bandwidth but very unstable over 300FSB.
Disabled and you can run pretty much anything out of this world.
I noticed (maybe already posted here)
With 2T you can run Drive strength level 4
With 1T you must run level 1 (max 2)
Correct me if im wrong about this plz.
hmm....kk, i only runned with 1T....
so, ubermann, i'm running always with level4....thought, it would be the "relaxed" of all 4 options.... :confused:
hmm...kk, i'll try again....
ok, i give ti up.....i tried everything, but it just hangs up in the same screen (drive-detection-screen)......
so, then i tried to drive my EBs with CPC-off qith 270MHz @ memtest.....hangs up.....now i really don't know, what me holding back....my CPU? my board? my RAM?
it just CAN'T BE, that all 3 items have they limit at the same point!
it just CAN'T BE! what for a fu*king random that has to be?!?! :mad:
now i'm getting frustated :(
just don't know, what's holding back :(
Can it be SATA ?
I use IDE and so does ugp and zeus from what i can see.
hmmmm........could it be?
...oh man, damn it all :mad: :( :stick: :(
@ bigtoe: did/do you use IDE or sATA? (what drive did you use for the 425MHz-HTT-record?)
I see a drive detection screen sometimes, after making changes in the BIOS. Just let it go a minute, and it'll hit the normal boot screen. ;)
I shall try some new settings and see what I get and then I will post back
And yes I have an IDE drive... I want two new SATA in a RAID 0
Welp, I swapped out the mobile 3000+ for the DTR 3200+. I can get good clocks with low temps, but it takes a lot of voltage. I'm using 1.613v, I think, (fluctuates in CPUZ) for 2.5 GHz., and the chips only 27C. :cool: I about had 2.6 GHz., but when I got to 1.7-something, I chickened out, lol. :p: What do you guys think, should I play it safe, and call 2.5 good, or go for it, since the temps are good? This is just good air BTW, no vapo or prommie. :(
That isn't that high of voltage. On air it isn't recommend to go any higher than v1.8. That temp is very good, I would go for it man. I would give anything to hit 2.5GHz right now. What settings where you using and what memory do you have?
Usin' 2x512s of Mushkin LII 3500, @ 5-2-2-2-1t. I've had the RAM to 240 @ 3.3v, but the chip does much better using the 5/6 divider. Kinda of a trade off, @250 5/6, the RAM's only doing 208. If they recommend 1.8v tops, then it's probly good for 1.9v or 2.0v, dontcha think? :D ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman
Go for it. I am setting on 2550 Prime stable with 1.85v with bad air. I know she will go 26xx with some cooling. The DTRs have turned out to be my best clockers & I have mobils,desktops both N/C & C/H , & DTRs. All are 3200 CGs Except the N/C 3400. The DTRs are the only 1m CPU I can get over 2500 Stable with my cooling. I have made it to windows at 27xx. Love to atleast have some water on it. My 3400 N/C only goes 2580 prime stable.
Jess1313
Welp, 2600 MHz. won't happen here, I even got nutty enough to try 1.968vcore. :eek: However, I got 2550 MHz. 3DMarkable, and broke 29k!! Enough for the bottom of the 1st page if you type in Athlon & XT PE. :D http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8135079 Doin' it with 1.65vcore @ 26C in the BIOS. :p: ;)
I used an IDE HDD for the 425 run and have used an SATA HDD on my retail board and hit 425HTT again...thing is both boards won't do 1HTT more for me as they are stock with good air cooling.
I'll be finally joining in on this DFI fun tomorrow. GameVe, shipped monday, I ordered 3 of the 754 250gb boards. Finally they will be here and more memory volts!!!
k used 1:2 divider with 1x 512MB Kingston KHX3200/512 BH-5 week 27, 2003 stick of ram @ 2-2-2-6 1T and managed with AMD64 3400+ Newcastle 372HTT with LDT at AUTO and rest of mem settings at AUTOQuote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
sandra reports AUTO LDT set it as 2.5x LDT so 930mhz hypertransport speed :)
Nice numbers, but just numbers. No real benefit from these settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
I´d be impressed by high "1:1"-results, but 372MHz reference-clock (what lot of people incorrectly refer to as "HTT") gives you nothing, when you clock down your RAM and get "normal" HTT-speeds with x2 or x2.5 multipliers.
Greetz, Flox
yeah i know 1:1 is where it's at even with 372HTT 2:3 divider with ram at 248mhz 2-2-2-6 - memtest86+ reports bandwidth as 1710MB/s versus 245mhz 2-2-2-6 1:1 memtest86+ reports 1739MB/s
427 htt :slobber: :slobber:
ok, now i don't know what to do :(Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
OSKAR_WU posted something about problems with high FSB and SATA.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigtoe
I´m not sure if the problem was with the 1 & 2 SATA or 3 & 4. Someone wrote It was only with 2 of them but I'm not sure wich ones and I can't find that post anymore.
What SATA port did you use?
I'm running on ports 3&4 without problems but I'm only running 250 FSB (I think my problem is mye ram) If I buy some 3500EB I´ll go for higher FSB so I want to be sure I'm on the correct ports.
SATA will always lower your max oc'ing potential.. hence PATA is the way :)
jesus... the results from this board are just incredible.
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
grrrr....so, turn-around to pATA again -_-
No, just use sata port 3&4, that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
i'm using port#3 all the time -_-
@ all sATA-user: do u all use port #3/#4 too and get high HTT-clocks?
so... p4z1f1st im sry for this it cant be !
check port 1 or check it out to use an ide hdd to test....
i ve ordered my board till 2 weeks it should be shipped since 1 week but didnt came to me still now O_o i want it now! ! ! argh!
so "r" there now really high newcastle clocks it seems to me that the ch come better with this board but is it still a disadvantage to get a newcastle i only got a clawhammer here which does 2,4 instabile (:banana::banana::banana::banana:ty vcore issue) with 1,8 (1,728-1,84) modded bios on kda3+
maybe i could get higher with this dfi ;) and stable vcore but u guys "r" really crazy how could ya run with 1,8-1,9V on air? i get high temps with my water rig under load on 1,8-1,84 sooo i cant believe this with air.... should get over 65degreeC
hope my board comes tomorrow i wouldnt wait any longer soo PLZ!!!!!
BTW... i also get msiRX9800 on 513/407 for benching with very littl artifacts and still no on 500/396 :) i m very happy thx @ hell-fire and funktional again for helping with the vgpu mod :D
seEn andL
hm, so....
i meantioned that the boot-screen shows me following, while i always deactivated sATA-port 1&2
external phy - port3: *name-of-my-plate*
external phy - port4: *empty*
so i thoght "hm, maybe the fuc*ing board sets all sATA-ports to the marvel-chip, when i deactivate 2 of them"
so, i activated them and then it showed:
external phy - port1: *empty*
external phy - port2: *empty*
internal phy - port3: *name-of-my-plate*
internal phy - port4: *empty*
so, i tried FSB 1:1 266MHz (260MHz is my maximum) with test#5 @ memtest....but it hanged up (like everytime >260MHz) after 32sec.....now i really get fuc*ed up! :mad:
i think, i'll get a pATA-hdd from my friend and try via pATA :mad:
also u tried async. memory and all dividers also 0.5 and raise cpu core/volt settings changing sata ports also all this tweaks in bios what ya could set and with any other tools where u could set something u tried em all?
maybe something limits ur oc and it isnt the board ?! (ram cpu dont know...)
also is there somebody who could post high htt clocks and so on with a newcastle?
seEN andL
PS: has anybody ordered the dfi from oc-wear in germany from outside it => how long did ya wait for?!
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...403#post546403 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by andL64
oj ;) i read that shortly b4 ;) sry mate didnt recognize u got a nc :D
guys, do u all have enabled both sATA-controller?
or are here guys, who disabled port #1 like me and got high HTTs?
now i'm pis*ed of, by setting all the time the cmos-clear-jumper....so, first i've to get down and then maybe i'll try it again....
So from what I am reading you have to use SATA ports 3+4 if you want to clock high on the HTT? Is there any performance difference with them on 3+4 in a RAID 0 over them on 1+2?
folks using BH-5/6 at >260mhz 2-2-2-6 speeds what are you setting the other mem timings for
Trc
Trfc
Trrd
Twr
Twtr
Trtw
Refresh Period
Write CAS Latency
and ones further below them
???
please share :)
Just play with them and see what works....test one at a time...best way to do it if you don't know what they do.
Use the A64 tweaker and change one and one and run sandra/pi between changes. Take screenshots ones and awhile when getting higher score.
Seem to be easiest.
Wish there was a save/load settings on A64 tweaker.
Where do you get that program from? I want to try that out.
*EDIT* Nevermind I found it. Google is a wonderful tool :p:
yeah that's good to test once you know fairly well what the mem max is.. but i'm trying to determine what if any of these settings would allow BH-5/6 to go that bit higher than normally would while still maintaining decent overall performance/bandwidth - just that little bit extra heheQuote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
i.e. memtest86+ v1.26 bandwidth with 1x 256MB KHX3000K2/512 BH5 stick
auto unless overwised specificed
9x 260mhz 2-2-2-6 1T = 1757 MB/s
9x 267mhz 2-2-2-6 1T = 1805 Mb/s
9x 260mhz 2-2-2-6 1T 10-12-2-2-2-2 = 1865 MB/s
9x 260mhz 2-2-2-6 1T 9-12-2-2-2-2 = 1905 MB/s
9x 267mhz 2-2-2-6 1T 9-12-2-2-2-2 = 1956 MB/s
eva2000 keep up the good work! Post what gives you the best results.
I`ll get the board on saturday and I`m goning to pair it up with 2x256MB BH-5 and 2x512MB Ballistix.
This will be my first A64 board, and I just know I`m going to love it! :D
Man oh man I got too many things I want to test and tweak. There is too much and so little time I have to do it. Why can't I just sit at home all day? lol Work sucks!
hm guys, could u tell me, which DRAM-Slots u use?
btw. i got a pATA-HDD from a friend and it didn't help.....so, now i've to get a new A64 somehow, to see, if it's the CPU, which can't handle the high HTT-clock
because, the lowest HTT on the new DFI I've seen here, was around 320MHz....so, i'm not really sure if it's my DFI....
I'm using 1&3 but it doesn't matter, just put the RAM out of the way by using the 1/2 divider.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
Don't bother with ClockGen, just go into bios, select this divider, set multi to 5x and set your HTT to somewhere around 350.
Leave everything else on auto.
Press F10 and enter.
What does it do?
just, before i have again to set my cmos-clear-jumper - why press F10?
does the DFI has a secret-option-menu like some Gigabyte-boards? :confused:
No F10 is to save and exit. :)
Went a little bit higher on HTT, not stable but great numbers. :banana:
F10 is save and exit.
So what? http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/...s/rolleyes.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by zyx
Perhaps I´m too dumb, but I don´t get it why people start to get crazy due to high numbers of the reference clock...as long as you don´t have ultra-high RAM-clocks or CPU-speeds, it gives no practical result...
Greetz, Flox
My temp reading problem is now fixed! :stick:
Since my last reboot the readings are ok but I don't understand why :confused:
I flashed the bios as soon as I started using this board and it dind't fix it.
I've been testing different speed and voltages these weeks and always 72º
Now it reads 51-53 running prime!
Did someone's DFI do the same?
Well, finished modding my vid completely. Using an Alpha heatsink & a slower Delta 80mm fan, @ 1.52v, I get 560/580 very stable, and temps stay under 50, usually at 46/38. :cool: Next up, I'm gonna kick up my 3.3v rail more, and find out how high I can really go 1/1. :D
Any of you people use a DVDRW burner with the board, cause it seems that it doesn't like the one I have (tho it works ok).
Everytime I try to use (and belive me I tried everything possible and imaginable) the pc gets lagged and delayed when working with things related to it.
I have a Pioneer A106D btw.
So if you have a dvd burner with the dfi please post what burner is, if you have any problems and what is the average time of loading windows (and if you notice the same I have with my drive)
Help is very appreciatted.
peace
People put ground FX kits on their cars, although it gives no practical result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flox
It's all about fun, a hobby, something to chat about. It's also about testing how well-built this board really is, and what it COULD take if it existed. I can't wait to have some fun with mine...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bourch
I have incountered the voltages not setting when you leave bios. Any time you change bios come out and go back in to let it finish changing settings. With this happening you need to pay attention when testing because you can think you change something & it didnt do it, there forth letting you think what you changed didnt do anything.
Jess1313
I am running one stick of 512 in DIMM3. I haven't even bothered to try any other DIMM Slots at all.
Here I got 400x6.0 with my friends memory so I know it is my RAM because I can't load into windows at the same settinsg or any other settings with my RAM.
Heh, anyone else runnin' their BH-5 at CAS 1.5 yet? :D Oh yeah, the 9/10 divider is your friend. I have both workin' here just fine. You don't lose as much mem bandwidth, but can still get the same CPU speed as 5/6, at least the settings I'm using. I coulda swore someone said 9/10 didn't work. :confused: :stick:
Hey was that the same kinda ram you swaped. I havnt been able to get above 346HTT yet. Not that I really need to but just for the fun I would like to get her up there..... Its strange I just figured I havnt hit the combo yet for it to take off. I have more mem I will see what it will do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Just wandering what do you have all the mem settings on for that run.
Jess1313
6x HTT, no problem! :D
Nice job Zeus. Is that air cooling? That's a nice clock speed regardless of htt.
Bad comparison...because a styled car has better (at least in the eyes of the owner) looks and you have the chance to impress some chicks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTzu69
427MHz reference-clock (don´t like to call it "HTT") is more like having a 1.000.000 dollar monopoly-bank-note...high number, but you can´t buy you anything from it.
Show me a CPU that can handle 427MHz ref-clock at full multi.
Show me memory-sticks, that can handle DDR800+.
So after all...just a high number, not even something to impress chicks...
Greetz, Flox
We already know its pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flox
But as we said before, its fun and a little "contest" everyone can try no matter what ram you have =)
(I dont think any girl will get impressed with a ram running DDR800+ either =)
Guess it depends on what kind of chicks you think are worth meeting... :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flox
Anyways.. my point is that it's a hobby.. a common interest...a challenge.
I know what´s your point...but you don´t get mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunTzu69
The big advantage of the DFI-mobo are the possible voltages for those, who don´t want to mod their board.
And if someone gets his A64 to 3.2GHz with 320MHz*10 and "1:1" RAM-clocks, I´d be totally impressed.
But the reference-clock says nothing about CPU speed, HTT- (or what you call LDT) clocks and memory-speeds...so I can´t understand the excitement about these numbers.
It could reach 500MHz and would give you nothing more than a reference to get your CPU- and HTT-clocks with certain multipliers.
Greetz, Flox
Nope that's watercooled with an RBX. thanks anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by gouda96
Flox, don't make such a big deal out of it, it's just numbers, nothing more nothing less mate, just for fun. ;)
I agree with ya it has nothing to do with performance.
You're gonna have to wait untill i get my new RAM for some nice 1:1 action.
It's nice to see how far one can push these boards, isn't it?
anyone tested the samsung TCCD chips as a data ddr600 on this board? should be very impressive :)
Not it was this memory... http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=42451Quote:
Originally Posted by jess1313
That is my friends memory I had in the system. It appeared to be stable but was only 256MB DDR
At 400x6.0 my CPU idled at 35C. It doesn't run very hot and my chipset stayed at 30C just like it does stock.
Okay guys where and how do you measure the vdimm on this board ? I'm using OCZ DDR Booster and as OPP pointed out this DFI board won't boot up/reboot at >3.6v vdimm via Booster so you need to dial down vdimm <3.6v to boot up/reboot then dial back up past 3.6v! Such a pain :(
Anyone know why it does this ? or how to get around it permanently ?
2x.5G PQI turbo, first test were up to 290 single stick and 270+ for both (memtest #5) and had to tweak the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of it. Course it still needs some hot (burn-in) luvin. :flame:Quote:
Originally Posted by andL64
(/me remembers to confirm upper volts allowed (3.5+?))
Begins to get warm at 280/3.1 Volts.
Anyone know where is the vcore/vdimm read point?
Timings?Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
How about using smartguardian?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
It displays Vdimm.
It's on the CD that comes with the board. :)
I understand your point. I guess I'd just refer you to your sig and replace the word "Physics" with "HTT". :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Flox
yeah but that under reports vdimm in windows... and i test in memtest86+ v1.26 first before booting into windows hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
i came, i saw, and it didn't boot....
HI
mi Englisg are poor
i have lan party nf3 ut 250gB
AND....
have athlon64 2800+ Newcastle
my HTT only stable at 240 mhz,
my memos --> Corsair XMS3200c2
PSU buttferfly 480 watts
try to overclock but worst results
anyone can help me?
i would say get a stronger psu. i had that POS and it was terrible. the 12v line would drop under load like .5v. and that was only running a 2400xp, infinity,fx5200 and one hdd. id say get a quality psu.
Do you get the "detecting array" message or is it no post at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
Why do you need the Booster if the Beta BIOS supposedly will go 4.0v with a 3.3 rail mod?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
They're not trying to impress you. There are plenty of high power A64 that do not run 1:1. And aside from that, learing about your board/chip capabilities is a good thing. It's called testing, maybe you should try some.Quote:
Originally Posted by flox
I get that message whenever I try and go above 209Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
always no boot.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
Ehehe finished a Superpi at 340FSB 1:1 with bad result.
But it worked =)
*Edit added one with better timings and 294FSB *
Nice going - maybe Flox will be happy with the 1:1 part. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Little hard to read the text on your attachment, but the timings look a little loose. ;)
A little ? They are very loose (3-4-4-8) and its T2.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyBeard
But funny =)
(floxs girls coming to me now tihihihi)
Might be, but hey, it's running 340!! :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by GreyBear
I wouldn't mind running loose timings at 340, it still gives enough bandwidth for 2 computers! :D
Now let's hope it's enough to satisfy Flox. :D
Nice going Uber! :toast:
A bug ?
If i put anything else then "1" at Write cas latency in bios it wont boot, and i have to reset cmos.
Looking at bigtoes bios suggestion for running this ram stable at 600 wont work on this comp.
Tried beta and "release" bios.
Was 294 still @2T?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
What is the 2T setting? What is the performance difference. But what I read is you should enable it only if you have a CG stepping 64-Bit. Can someone enlighten me on this setting?
CPC=enable(1t) or Disable(2t) 2t is slower clock per clock, but in alot of cases allows for greater overclock. usually using 1t can be a real hold up when OCing 2x512 modules(but some have had succeded with 2x512+1t)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
it also greatly reduces bandwith effecency on A64
if you have a CO rev CPU you may only use CPC enable(1T) because a CO's memory controller doesnt support CPC disable(2T).
If you have a CG rev CPU you may use either 1t or 2t. :cool:
-Jess-
294 is with 1T
2T sucks big time =)
Uber, what's the max stable with your OCZ plat.rev2 with 1T?
With stable i mean SuperPi 1M or PiFast stable.
I'm gonna get me some and hope to run 315x8 1:1 3-4-4-10 timings. :cool:
Same here. I got some more testing and stuff to do but if anyone gets a chance, please put in bug forum of DFI-street :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Thanks mikee (going back to making memory sinks for EB-3700 and TCCD)
Got 250 x 10 @ 3.1 Vdimm in memtest all day. (BH-5 2-2-2-6), got some settings to lay out later....
It works with setting it to "auto" or "1".
Sitting and doing prime, really boring but im currently able to boot windows with 310FSB 6multi , CPC on and Cas 2.5 and 4837m/sec with sandra.
Only changing 1 setting every boot now, think i booted windows 200 times with this board already.
Just a quick question on this motherboard. I just received mine. I read in a few posts back they dfi was delaying the mobo a bit to add better components. Im not sure if it said anything in particular about capacitors, but I was wondering if they replaced caps. Mine has generic caps all around the socket. Did DFI issue a new board with rubicon caps? Thanks, cant wait to get to the fun
KGZ - chemi-cons. Thats what they are & there better or as good than rubicons ( atleast I was told they where). This is whats on my board anyway. If yours is diff let us know. You have to look real close to see the markings.
Jess1313
Somthing more i figured out, Dram drive strenght and Write cas latency has something to do with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by mad mikee
If they are set at some setting you get dectecting drive array.
But what that setting is i dont really know yet.
Like level 2 drive and write cas 1 wont boot.
Anyone know anything about this ?
Dont remember if 5x multi put autodivider.
CPC Off
3-4-4 timings
Dram 3.1V
360FSB 1:1
Stable enought for running paint.exe =)