Yeh, anyone with TCCD memory should try out the new 1.Amod for TCCD when it's out...works great on my system. :)
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Yeh, anyone with TCCD memory should try out the new 1.Amod for TCCD when it's out...works great on my system. :)
Hi,
the newest bios really sucks,
I got to 294HTT on the first bios from msi (overclocked very briefly) now I can't hit 289, 288 is rockstable but as soon as it touches 289 htt , instant freeze.
time to go to 1.A.
anyone else experiencing a problem with the official msi bios and what was helped with an unofficial bios?
xyus
i was just doin some testing in sandra with my x23800 and it showed my clock speed at 2.3 but im at 2.9 score is low also. pcmark04 shows 6500 pcmark05 shows like 1900 marks .online this score sucks hard and this is with redline at 263 and a x800xt just seems weird cpuz shows my overclock as does core center my bios is 1.a0r3..
Dont understand what bios is the first bios and what bios you using now that cant hit what you had before.Quote:
Originally Posted by Xyus89
And you say the newest bios really sucks then later you say "time to go to 1.A" 1.A is the newest bios ....
side effect the irq placements dont have anything to do with it like i initially thought.. the irq's are all the same and it still get way better performance with the older bios's.
like is iad your not touching the AGP but something within that bios is wrong. i just wish i knew what.
latencies are all the same i already checked latencies with the latency config tool.
anyways,, there is something there that is directly related to the agp performance
again any chance of having you alter the 1.36 rev 4 with the same memory timings you have for the 1.a bios ? i liked the 1.a cuz it gave me better memory clocks. Memory performance was NOT better though,, identicle settings i still got higher sandra marks ..
anyways if you get a chance and wanna play around, throw those timings on the 1.36 rev 4 and let me have it. im curious to see how it works.
:slap: 1.36 cant be modded with dividers sry lestat.
Did you try overclocking the video card Lestat? because i can overclock mine much more than before with the new bios.
mine is already overclocked .. so no i never tried..
but performance was just crap,,,lol ugh maybe ill try it this weekend and see what happens..
and i never said divider guy i said all the extra memory timings.
like opening up all the hidden memory settings and also you changed the settings that we complained about that MAY have been holding back the memory you loosened them up a little but by default i think..
anyways i dont care about the divider lol just all the memory cas timings.
anyone notice when u use the 166 div sandra and all benchs are really low when using x2 3800 with bh5 this is with 1.aor3 bios
Sideeffect, I updated my BIOS page, let me know if any of the information for you BIOS's is incorrect. =)
BTW thanks for doing all of these MODs, I'm guna have to try out the TCCD rev when I get home from work tomorrow =)
Hey guys,
Hopefully you can help me out. I recently flashed (succesfully) to sideeffect's 1.A Official revision 1 BIOS with the following string:
/py/sn/wb/cd/cp/f
I purposely left out the /cc (clear cmos) switch because my Gigaram sticks won't let me boot unless I have VDIMM at 2.85v and the settings at 2-3-2-5. After flashing, I rebooted the computer, and it POSTed. I went into the BIOS and reset everything except for the VDIMM and timings. I saved and rebooted, and system POSTed again. Next, I proceeded to power-off my system. Once I powered on, however, the system would not POST.
I tried the following:
1. Clear CMOS through jumper
2. Clear CMOS through battery removal
3. Tried working Corsair Valuselect RAM
4. Removed Soundcard, hard drive, floppy, etc.
5. Took motherboard out of case, with only video, connected
...and still nothing. I read that bad ram can destroy a system, and that's what I think I did. I tried using the two sticks of Gigaram (see signature) in another system and it would not post. Then I tried the valueselect stick, and now I have another non-posting system...
Additional symptoms include:
1. System turns on once I switch the power supply on. I don't even touch the power button on the front of the case and the system powers on. So to be articulate, all fans come on (system and cpu), hard drives power up, CD-ROMs power on and have steady power light on. If hard drive is connected, LED for HDD activity is steadily lit on the front of the case. Also, the motherboard doesn't respond to the power button when I hold it for 4-seconds or longer. It won't turn off. I have to use the same switch on the PSU to turn it off.
If any of you have suggestions, I am ready and willing to do anything, even RMA the ram. I just hope I can do something else about this motherboard. I hope it isn't dead.
with the first bios I was able to hit +295HTT with 1.9 and sideeffect his bios I can't hit 289, 288 goes perfect bus as soon as it touches 289 it instantly freezes.
my HT frequency is set to 2x & ram divider on 166 mhz so... dunno what's wrong.
and how do I install the first bios from the msi site with winflash? it doesn't contain a .BIN file?
xyus
The bios files after 1.8 often wont go as high in HTT as the the ones before. Its a common trait across all the newer bios files. My bios files should allow better memory overclocks than the official 1.A but it wont allow a higher HTT than the 1.A official because its exactly the same cpu, divider tables.
Problem is that The newer bios really needs a clean start. So you need to clear cmos right away as soon as you flash start it and ussually remove the power supply lead and sometimes even remove the ide leads.Quote:
Originally Posted by aphelion
Your issue is strange though sounds like a cold boot problem but that should go away after you clear the cmos and start again. I guess the memory not booting unless its 2.85 volts could be a problem.
If you have the ability to hot flash the bios chip i think that would be worth a try. Its possible the bios is corrupted and so wont boot.
If you get the board running again i can make you a newer bios that has a memory voltage of 2.85v on boot so you dont have to worry about clearing cmos.
Hi,
I found my problem.
HT frequency, if I put it to x2 I can't hit 289 put If I put it to x3 I can.
I've reached 2850mhz ;)
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/844/2826mhz6kx.jpg
I have got higher with 200mhz but didn't take a screenie.
(when I just installed xp I got a superpi of 33.5s @ 2690mhz @ 2.5-3-3-6, now I get a superpi of 33.800 @ 2720mhz :( , time for a format )
how do you like my suicide ?
the cpu love's the vcore.
Xyus
Just tested the 3D performance of the 1.A mod (TCCD version) after seeing Lestat having problems with benchmarks.
Using exactly the same settings as with the 1.8mod bios, my 3dmark03 increased by around 150 points using the new bios, so i don't think it should be a problem for most users.
Lestat, maybe reflash the bios once more, using the TCCD version of 1.A and try 3d benchmarks again...might just have been a bad flash. I always use winflash myself without problems, but always clear the CMOS for a few minutes after flashing.
Yes i also beat my best score with 3dmark 2003 on the 1.A bios now over 14000 points.
Sideeffect: What revision would you recommend for Mushkin Redline?
hey guys been followng this postfor a while now about once a week I come here and recently iahve been on the 1.5 bios (it works for me) Well I decided to try sideffects bios to see if it would give me anything and LOW and behold no .5 multipliers in it :( I tried 1.9 and all that too. so im back at 1.5 why is there no .5 multis anymore. that is the sweet spot for me with my 3000+ venice im at 312x8.6 thats 2650 at 1.6V with my ram at 208 its corsair pc3200c2. its CH6 memory IIRC.
Also is there any chance of getting the 143mhz mem option on our boards?
If mushkin Redline is BH5 or UTT then probably revision 1 is right for you because stock timings are already tight. The revisions mostly relax timings to get higher HTT.
The .5 mulits arent in the bios files after 1.8. They didnt set a .5 multi anyway they set a 183 divider. Because the new bios files have 183 divider or they should have done you dont need the .5 multi anymore.
And no there is no 143 divider for neo2 yet.
Anyone tried the tccd bios yet? I think I will give that a try this evening. I got my scythe ninja installed and my temps are lower under load than with the xp90c so when I get home this evening I am looking to oc a little differently using the tccd bios. I am going to see how the memory does in slots 3 and 4 versus 1 and 2.
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Originally Posted by sideeffect
Umm come again :) RIght now im at 8.5x312 cpu-z says im at 2650mhz and ram is at 204mhz. So am i really not at 2650? or what im lost HAHAH. in more ways then one.
Yes you really are at 2650mhz and yes the ram is what cpu-z says to its just that there are no .5 multipliers on athlon 64 so its a complex series of dividers going on there.
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Originally Posted by sideeffect
So if i want to stay at where im at I have to keep this bios? That really sucks. Thanks for the help...arggh.
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Originally Posted by CD 1986
CD,
i initially thought that when i flashed so in actuallity i have flashed like 4-5 times hen going back and forth between syars and SE's bios. so after that many flashes nah its not a bad flash.
i dont know... just frustrating ya know..
but if SE can implement the same ram cas settings he used in 1.a that got me higher ram into the 1.,36 rev 4 bios id be happy to flash and take a spin with it. 1.36 has 4 ram timings. just open up the other ones so i can use them... plz guy :toast:
just whatever MSI did with the 1.a bios's i cant use them cuz it refuses to let me use my promise IDE controller card so no matter if i got a billion points in 3dmark i wouldnt use it i have too many hard drives that i need daily and i cant use them if i use the 1.A bios.
ggrrr MSI you need a spankin