AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

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12-10-2010, 02:41 PM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Lanek

I have some problem imagine AMD doing this, ok there's the green stickers, but this mean what ? they will send them a bios updated 1-2 days before the release saying : " ok put all your workaround in the trash, here's something new, sorry for have make you loose your time ? ""

on the positive side we now know that one of the caymans is 26 cm long :ROTF:
12-10-2010, 02:42 PM
zerazax

10.5in sounds about right
12-10-2010, 02:44 PM
generics_user

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Originally Posted by eric66

on the positive side we now know that one of the caymans is 26 cm long :ROTF:

it only took us 99 pages :D

now we're at 100, amd really knows how to feed the trolls...
12-10-2010, 02:50 PM
Dezmen

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Originally Posted by Lanek

ok if we start to get free cookies, i want one too ... first im hungry :D

Hey you sir, stay in line xD
12-10-2010, 02:52 PM
xdan

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they will send them a bios updated 1-2 days before the release saying : " ok put all your workaround in the trash, here's something new, sorry for have make you loose your time ? ""

Good and acurate reviews aren't made in one day...
And i if would reviewer i wouldn't accept this bad joke.
12-10-2010, 02:54 PM
Lanek

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Originally Posted by xdan

Good and acurate reviews aren't made in one day...
And i if would reviewer i wouldn't accept this bad joke.

my english was not maybe good ( im hungry that's maybe why .... freee cookies !!!!) , but i was saying i don't believe to it for this exact reason .....
Peoples really can imagine AMD are sending to reviewer crippled cards and then will send them the real cards ? or the real bios 2 days before the launch ?

edited for the sake: " but all reviewer and tester are not in the same bag "
12-10-2010, 03:10 PM
LordEC911

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Originally Posted by eric66

on the positive side we now know that one of the caymans is 26 cm long :ROTF:

If my info is good, which I'm pretty sure it is, both use the same length PCB. (see Charlie's 6970/6950 allocation article for reference and no that's not where my info comes from)
12-10-2010, 03:45 PM
s1nykuL

Fortunately for me, my missus says that the length of it is not important.

All this speculation has been fascinating. I am enjoying reading this thread but to be honest I will not upgrade until a card comes out that is at least a 60%-70% faster than my 5850. (I don't care what colour it is either). I am CPU limited at the moment. I plan to go i5 soon, perhaps my position on this will change then. :shrug:
12-10-2010, 03:46 PM
Heinz68

Update: Hold the presses, it's faster
Big surprise, Fuad admitting he was wrong. Here is the update at the bottom of the article. Wonder who are his "usually well informed sources."

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Update:
It appears that our usually well informed source failed us, and forwarded a photoshopped roadmap. So, we plainly got served. We are in the process of gathering more reliable info on Cayman performance and we will write an update as soon as we get something worthwhile. It will clearly end up quite a bit faster and we apologize for the inconvenience.

I know most of us new the article was based on fake slide and not on "AMD's own benchmarketing data" as Fuad originally claimed.
The good news is, that we no longer have to wait for the article to be proven false or true as SKYMTL suggested.

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Originally Posted by SKYMTL

Actually, this article you refer to will only be proven true or false when trusted benchmark numbers come to light.
12-10-2010, 03:55 PM
Zoran

FUD finally got his asssss kicked! :yepp:
12-10-2010, 04:12 PM
Calmatory

Re-living the R300. ;)
12-10-2010, 04:21 PM
Lanek

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

Update: Hold the presses, it's faster
Big surprise, Fuad admitting he was wrong. Here is the update at the bottom of the article. Wonder who are his "usually well informed sources."

I know most of us new the article was based on fake slide and not on "AMD's own benchmarketing data" as Fuad originally claimed.
The good news is, that we no longer have to wait for the article to be proven false or true as SKYMTL suggested.

What !!!! is source is just not Nvidia ???? I have miss something,,

Now for be real .........

well after all the bad press he have got, and all the hype around Cayman we have got on forum i will ask me if Nvidia have tell him: " more hype is good, push it a little bit further ! " ..

he he, maybe he was not so wrong after all .... don't expect too high, and you will not be deceipt ..
12-10-2010, 04:36 PM
Heinz68

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Originally Posted by Lanek

What !!!! is source is just not Nvidia ???? I have miss something,,

Now for be real .........

well after all the bad press he have got, and all the hype around Cayman we have got on forum i will ask me if Nvidia have tell him: " more hype is good, push it a little bit further ! " ..

he he, maybe he was not so wrong after all .... don't expect too high, and you will not be deceipt ..

You mean even after admitting he was wrong, (which everybody who actually did read the article knew) he might have been right anyway? That's a funny.
Fuad writing FUD and than wrongly admitting it was a FUD
12-10-2010, 04:47 PM
zalbard

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Originally Posted by Dezmen

I hope this leak is TRUE!
So, basically all testers got Slow Speed Board. This can mean that it have cutted SP, like should be 1920SP and have ~1600 instead. So lets hope thats true xD

http://www.shrani.si/f/3F/QV/3FpPePvy/lowspeed6970.jpg

Not the best idea to leave your name on the card like that from the NDA perspective. :p:

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Originally Posted by Kain665

Any else notice that the image came from the future?

Nope, just did! Can't be just a simple mistake, IMO. But I can not really explain it... Perhaps, NDA related?

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Originally Posted by generics_user

are 6950s called slow speed boards because both show up as 6900 series?

Possibly, and, hopefully you're correct.

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

Update: Hold the presses, it's faster
Big surprise, Fuad admitting he was wrong. Here is the update at the bottom of the article. Wonder who are his "usually well informed sources."

This is nice, but he may very well be deluded, again.

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Originally Posted by Calmatory

Re-living the R300. ;)

Yeah, what happened to that? Going through the last batch of rumours, they do not really indicate that it's going be the new R300... Guess we'll see.
12-10-2010, 04:56 PM
Lanek

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Originally Posted by Heinz68

You mean even after admitting he was wrong, (which everybody who actually did read the article knew) he might have been right anyway? That's a funny.
Fuad writing FUD and than wrongly admitting it was a FUD

Don't take it to serious when i joke about Fudzilla ...
12-10-2010, 05:08 PM
Heinz68

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Originally Posted by zalbard

This is nice, but he may very well be deluded, again.

He was never deluded, he knew from which slide he calculated the performance. It was the same fake slide somebody posted at some Chinese forum day before. His mistakes:
1 Claiming it was "from trusted sources"
2 Claiming it was "AMD's own benchmarketing data"
3 Problem with his math, calculating from the fake slide that HD 6970 is 20% faster than GTX 480 but at the same time slower than GTX 570
12-10-2010, 05:23 PM
bill_d

fud,fud,fud,fud.........sounds like a flat tire :p:
12-10-2010, 05:37 PM
andos

http://www.czechcomputer.cz/product....25#description

Yeah, let us know the ROPs, why not the SPs. :(

6950 too.

http://www.czechcomputer.cz/product.jsp?artno=84726
12-10-2010, 07:16 PM
safan80

If the 6970 is using 250watts of power (like a certain rumor has suggested), it will spank the 580 no problem.

edit: My 6970 prediction.
12-10-2010, 07:21 PM
tbone8ty

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Originally Posted by bill_d

fud,fud,fud,fud.........sounds like a flat tire :p:

:rofl:
12-10-2010, 07:25 PM
-=DVS=-

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Originally Posted by safan80

If the 6970 using 250watts of power (like a certain rumor has suggested), it will spank the 580 no problem.

edit: My 6970 prediction.

And if it doesn't, 580 will spank you :pimp:
12-10-2010, 07:27 PM
zerazax

You know what I find interesting? Less than 5 days to go and not a single die shot has been found. This must be some kind of record
12-10-2010, 07:59 PM
saaya

ts ts ts, its painful to see all the trolls starve to death in this thread as theres not even a chunk of bone of info for them to chew on :D

come to think of it, i did hear 2000sps as the next step after cypress loooooong time ago... (before cypress launched)
but i really hope cayman is more than that, i mean come on, the ipc tweaks wont be massive and 1600 to 2000 is a 25% boost only...
but if the die size numbers are true, then it cant be more than 2000 really... :/

i would have loved to see a 2400sp monster with a 250W+ tdp...
but then again, it probably would have been very expensive and going dualgpu wouldnt really have made sense anymore...
i mean think about it, if your in the same tdp envelope as a dual gpu card almost, then theres not gonna be a big perf boost by going dualgpu, so then you pretty much kill the dualgpu option... since ati continues to rely on dual gpu, that caps their highest single gpu cards to be around 200W, and again more than 2000sps would have meant way low clocks and wouldnt have been much faster than 2000sps...

2000 sps sounds a bout right for 400mm2, thats a 25% boost, then add a 15% ipc boost, which i think is generous, and you got a 40% boost over a 5870, which puts it in 580 territory. might beat it, but not notably...

and after all, justifying a 580 is already hard to do with the lack of nice dx11 games out there...
so a monster cayman wouldnt really have been useful would it?
12-10-2010, 08:07 PM
-=DVS=-

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Originally Posted by saaya

..... justifying a 580 is already hard to do with the lack of bla bla...
so a monster cayman wouldnt really have been useful blah

:eek:
And you call your self a member of extremesystems. There is no back in evolution , fast is never fast enough . :mad:
12-10-2010, 08:37 PM
MirageSys

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Originally Posted by -=DVS=-

:eek:
And you call your self a member of extremesystems. There is no back in evolution , fast is never fast enough . :mad:

I think hes being sarcastic.

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