**Official DFI LanParty UT X48-T2R(and LT) Discussion

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10-07-2008, 06:28 PM
MomijiTMO

I have a crappy Q6600 and am not having the issues you have faced with your 3 Q6600s.

Probably up your VTT to 1.25 [recommended for 400FSB]
10-07-2008, 08:48 PM
emoners

@Blammo: try loosening your RAM subtimings... maybe 5-5-5-15-tRFC to about 40-50s
10-08-2008, 02:17 PM
Seanie's Show

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blammo

(moved to correct thread... teach me to post while on the phone AND working..)

I need some help from the Q6600 OC Gurus..

So I've tried about everything I can think of, and I'm up against a couple walls, and I'm asking for help. I've been locked in Athlon64 land the last few years, and this is my first return to the intel platform since P3's.

I bought what I considered to be the best MB (5th DFI board) the X48-T2R, bought the best waterblock and after hearing about all the pain of cooling the NB, the best NB waterblock I could find. bought good low-latency ram (big g.skill fan), and then popped for a Q6600. Thanks to building machines for friends, I've now had the chance to rotate 3 different Q6600's through my setup. All have required volts to reach 3.2ghz. The only real difference was the amount of volts required to reach 3.0. First chip took 1.4, next chip took 1.375, the chip I kept took 1.325.

DFI X48 T2R, 829 bios, 4 sticks of DDR2-800, Q6600, MC-TDX block. MC-X48 block on NB. (bios settings quoted below)

Couple of things I can't seem to get past.

1. FSB wall - I can't get stable over about 420. If I drop to two sticks I can get into windows at 430, but over that is not even bootable.

2. MHZ wall - 3 different Q6600's I can't get over 3.2 stable. 3.2 I can get stable with 1.425 - 1.45 volts. I can bios-boot at 3.6 (400x9) but no chance of getting into any OS.

3. Memory performance - I'm only seeing about 4800-5100 in memtest, and I'm seeing guys posting about getting well over 8-9k?

I've tried just about every setting I can think of (except messing with GTL) and I can't seem to get past the walls.

I'm going to post the bios settings from memory, not at home.. will correct if I can.

This is for running stable at 3.2ghz. Any suggestions,helps,etc would be welcomed.

first off, get your ram timmings loosed right off, set 5-5-5-15- and change that 36 to 54 to start with, your low memory bandwith could be to do with your low FSB but could also be down to running 4xsticks, if your running 4 sticks of RAM this is going to be very stressfull on the board so your gonna need a :banana::banana::banana::banana: load of extra NB volts, so set 1.45v-to-1.5v for you NB and your CPU voltage keep to about 1.45v, dont worry about FSB walls etc, some people swear by them, other people dont belive in them at all, take for instance my CPU, it will clock to 4ghz, and will boot into windows and sit there, but is definatly not stable, not for 1 second, I have to back it right off to 3.6ghz for stability.

Set these to auto for now, CPU mhz is king and comes first, you can worry about tweaking board and RAM later.:
Ch1 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive...................CHANGE TO AUTO
Ch2 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive...................CHANGE TO AUTO
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting >>> More Aggresive................CHANGE TO AUTO

Mine are tweaked to this manually after hitting my max CPU speed:
Ch1 Clock Crossing Settting >>> More Aggresive
Ch2 Clock Crossing Settting >>> Normal
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting >>> Aggresive
anything harder and the board doesnt get past the post screen.

Might need a bit more VTT too, get that up to about 1.3v for now just to cover your ass.

Also get your performance level off AUTO, it could be trying to run the stock PL of 5 or 6 which would explain alot, try 7, or 8, there is also a sub section for perfornce level in the bios I forget off the top of my head what is called, but there are about 8 or 10 options in the menu, the available options for each one is AUTO or ENABLED, leave them at AUTO.

See how you get on with that for now, Oscar has done a excellent job with tweaking to the end pretty much every DFI motherboard since the P35-T2R, most of the settings on these boards you can set to auto, and they will run just fine, there is still some that you do have to play with though.
10-08-2008, 02:26 PM
Seanie's Show

Quote:

Originally Posted by emoners

ya i think DFI uses Shin Etsu

Yup it is and I hate it, brought a tube of it a longtime ago, and didnt like it at all, seemed dry a brittle to me, and a nightmare to spread, cheap and nasty stuff:

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=178

I used MX2 on my NB and Ceramique on my PWM area, which I buy from Tom at ChilledPC too.
10-08-2008, 03:10 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanie's Show

Yup it is and I hate it, brought a tube of it a longtime ago, and didnt like it at all, seemed dry a brittle to me, and a nightmare to spread, cheap and nasty stuff:

http://www.chilledpc.co.uk/shop/prod...roducts_id=178

I used MX2 on my NB and Ceramique on my PWM area, which I buy from Tom at ChilledPC too.

Everyone has a preference of TIM for various reasons. But cheap and nasty Shin Etsu is not. In the semiconductor industry their products are recognized as some of the best available. Being hard to spread is a consequence of being developed for machine application.
10-08-2008, 09:57 PM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

Everyone has a preference of TIM for various reasons. But cheap and nasty Shin Etsu is not. In the semiconductor industry their products are recognized as some of the best available. Being hard to spread is a consequence of being developed for machine application.

i agree with you praz its good stuff
but some people need o learn how to spread it:eek:
if people not gonna warm up the Shin Etsu they should not use it
was nice of dfi to give some Shin Etsu instead of the usual white goop
10-09-2008, 05:07 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

i agree with you praz its good stuff
but some people need o learn how to spread it:eek:
if people not gonna warm up the Shin Etsu they should not use it
was nice of dfi to give some Shin Etsu instead of the usual white goop

I think you've posted several times about warming Shin Etsu up. Just assumed it was common knowledge. There's a thread somewhere here that contains a post from Oskar as to why he specified this particular TIM be used.
10-09-2008, 07:31 AM
Sumanji

So this board is not so hot for overclocking quads I gather? I'm thinking about a Q9550, and getting as close as possible to 450MHz FSB (3.8GHz)... would I be better off with the Asus P45 (or X48)?

Cheers,

Suman
10-09-2008, 08:08 AM
zsamz_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

I think you've posted several times about warming Shin Etsu up. Just assumed it was common knowledge. There's a thread somewhere here that contains a post from Oskar as to why he specified this particular TIM be used.

:rofl: i read up on it when i bought some last year
you think even that i posted to warm it up most will read it or even remember :rofl:
its good stuff just just hard to use for some
mx2 is dummyproof:rofl:
10-09-2008, 08:49 AM
Seanie's Show

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sumanji

So this board is not so hot for overclocking quads I gather? I'm thinking about a Q9550, and getting as close as possible to 450MHz FSB (3.8GHz)... would I be better off with the Asus P45 (or X48)?

Cheers,

Suman

This board overclocks quads just fine, even upto 450fsb, I wouldnt buy another Asus motherboard if you gave me twice the money and asked me to buy two, go P45 if you want but not the ASUS boards, Have a look at the ASUS P45 P5Q-e/Deluxe thread, there you will see just how easy the bios etc on those boards gets corrupted, you will spend half of your overclocking time re-flashing it.

X38 and X48 are excellent boards especially if you want to run Xfire as it runs both cards at x16 however if your looking mainly for the latest technology then go for P45 if you dont intend on running Xfire.
10-09-2008, 01:13 PM
c.freak

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seanie's Show

This board overclocks quads just fine, even upto 450fsb, I wouldnt buy another Asus motherboard if you gave me twice the money and asked me to buy two, go P45 if you want but not the ASUS boards, Have a look at the ASUS P45 P5Q-e/Deluxe thread, there you will see just how easy the bios etc on those boards gets corrupted, you will spend half of your overclocking time re-flashing it.

X38 and X48 are excellent boards especially if you want to run Xfire as it runs both cards at x16 however if your looking mainly for the latest technology then go for P45 if you dont intend on running Xfire.

I wouldn't say excellent but allright, for the time being DFI doing the job :rolleyes: somehow it feels like i am the only goof to still run 3870's but happen to have Xfire-issue's regarding x48 T2R. Replacing them for a 4870x2 pretty soon but still, something tells me the bios are gona bug during increase of FSB :confused:
10-09-2008, 04:13 PM
gersson

Quote:

Originally Posted by zsamz_

a 120mm fan works almost as good;)

But my main problem is I need to replace the chipset Heatsink in order to change the orientation of my TRUE.
Nice try, though...:shrug:
10-09-2008, 04:19 PM
MomijiTMO

We gave you the option. It costs more money than you want to spend. Unfortunately there isn't really anything else.
10-09-2008, 04:32 PM
Jor3lBR

Anyone knows what was the last BIOS launched for the LT X48 without all those MCH options in GTL settings (used to be very simple and functional but after I received my RMAed board they flashed it with this latest BIOS that won't boot with my saved options from the old one)...
10-09-2008, 07:14 PM
Seanie's Show

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Anyone knows what was the last BIOS launched for the LT X48 without all those MCH options in GTL settings (used to be very simple and functional but after I received my RMAed board they flashed it with this latest BIOS that won't boot with my saved options from the old one)...

Yeah it was either 725 or 320 not 100% sure which one though however if you have GTL's enabled and those other strange 3 settings in their availble try setting them to (30/30/BO) or (40/40/CO) but apparently they dont really require setting up as far as 500fsb, however there is another new bios on the way, currently in the beta section:, hopefully they might do away with that stupid adition to the bios:

http://us.dfi.com.tw/Support/Downloa...FLAG=B&SITE=US
10-09-2008, 07:23 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jor3lBR

Anyone knows what was the last BIOS launched for the LT X48 without all those MCH options in GTL settings (used to be very simple and functional but after I received my RMAed board they flashed it with this latest BIOS that won't boot with my saved options from the old one)...

If you don't alter the default values of the MCH parameter table that is the same as it not being included in the BIOS as an adjustable option.
10-09-2008, 07:59 PM
Lestat

guys anyone tried the LANPARTY DK X48-T2RSB PLUS
i searched the thread and it couldnt find anything.

at a $200 price point with, what appears to be true 16x/16x crossfire lanes,, i like it. but fear this maybe another DFI dud,, especially after my DFI P45 JR nightmare!

what is the word on this board ?
10-09-2008, 08:05 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

guys anyone tried the LANPARTY DK X48-T2RSB PLUS
i searched the thread and it couldnt find anything.

at a $200 price point with, what appears to be true 16x/16x crossfire lanes,, i like it. but fear this maybe another DFI dud,, especially after my DFI P45 JR nightmare!

what is the word on this board ?

Just for you. :)
I've got more to post if I can find the time.

http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?t=7973
10-10-2008, 01:44 PM
gersson

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

We gave you the option. It costs more money than you want to spend. Unfortunately there isn't really anything else.

Ok, thanks for the help anyway, guys.
Looks like I may have to bite the bullet :mad:
10-10-2008, 09:37 PM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

I think you've posted several times about warming Shin Etsu up. Just assumed it was common knowledge. There's a thread somewhere here that contains a post from Oskar as to why he specified this particular TIM be used.

i did warm it somewhat but with mosfets i didnt really need to since there such small areas. it was actually quite easy to spread i didnt have a problem at all.
i wish i took a pic of what it looked like before, it was terrible lol gunk all over the board , i mean alot of gunk to. there was none at all on the mosfets either.
looks alot better now as u can see in the pic.

also added a mcw30 block to . did i fit it on right? had to use amd connectors and it had to go on an angle. is that ok?

http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...S6300258-1.jpg
http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/m...1/S6300255.jpg
10-10-2008, 10:27 PM
MomijiTMO

That's fine. I have it on my sb using the same mounts.

EDIT : Errrr if you are going to use the Swiffy barbs, make sure to use a o-ring/plumbers tape because I don't think they have a o-ring.
10-11-2008, 12:20 AM
adya

Quote:

Originally Posted by MomijiTMO

That's fine. I have it on my sb using the same mounts.

EDIT : Errrr if you are going to use the Swiffy barbs, make sure to use a o-ring/plumbers tape because I don't think they have a o-ring.

yeh , i used o-rings. i didnt really want to use them but i ran out of chrome barbs.
ill swap em over when i manage to pick some up .
10-11-2008, 12:24 AM
zanzabar

metal barbs are hit and miss on those, they arnt tapped for them and they need really long threads so it depends on what barbs u can use from how your tops on the mcw30
10-11-2008, 12:41 AM
MomijiTMO

After looking through my photos to find some nude shots, I'm using Bitspower barbs [DD have identical ones] with no leaks. I know all about barb issues though with my SW16. D-Tek didn't fit, BP leaked so I ended up using some Enzo barbs.
10-11-2008, 07:23 AM
emoners

Beta Bios from DFI 2008/10/02 for LANPARTY UT X48-T2R

Major Reasons of Change:
1. Added F9 Hot Key function.
2. Fixed ABS function fail when upgrade BIOS
3. Fixed System cannot display when "two" ATI HD 4870X2 are used in Crossfire.
4. Update Intel new 45nm CPU micro code.

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