I think the hype about expert and an832 killing boards are over rated, 2 cases is all, most likey early boards, haven't heard anything since either, I bet google would lead all searches back to the 2 threads in this forum.
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I think the hype about expert and an832 killing boards are over rated, 2 cases is all, most likey early boards, haven't heard anything since either, I bet google would lead all searches back to the 2 threads in this forum.
I dont really need the other PCI slot...I have always been using onboard sound, it suits me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mdzcpa
Dont have a WC setup but I can purchase one if it will save me some space inside but I doubt I wil be using a PCI card. With wc and an average size block will the 3rd slot be usable?
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Originally Posted by ben805
Sounds good m8. Looks like I will be ussing the 703 bios then, I dont really give a crap if it shows wrong temp I am used to that stuff already ;)
BTW 32" LCD TV is gonna be a part of this rig :woot: Cant wait to show you the pics of everything when its ready. Dont want to spoil it I still need the gfx card and MB.
Shoulda sent your A8N to me mdzcpa I would of bought it. They are out of stock everywhere I am checking back with excaliberpc next week. :slapass:
I got a response from ASUS about the voltage issue.
"Your issue is Due To the Bios and chipset limitation it is set to be on
1.58 volt only, AMD only offer up to 1.58 on a extreme use, above will cause
the CPU to damage, that why you get on 1.58.
You might get a different voltage on a unlocked CPU"
*sigh*
whatever... that's shifting blame. they told it it was due to THEIR bios and chipset limitations, heh.Quote:
Originally Posted by trza2k
I think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
If you put something in the 3rd slot (the second PCI slot), the spacing will be close, and air flow will suck, but that won't matter with water blocks. As long as you place a fan in there if you decide to use ram sinks (versus a GPU/Mem waterblock) you'll be fine.
LOL...after the deals I've been making in the FS section lately I needed the full refund on this puppy. At first they wouldn't take it, but after I kept up my pressure, they RMA's for a full refund. If I see any other A8N32s available I'll shout out.Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
if you go WC for your SLI setup you want to use the PCI slot#2, which is right on top of 2nd PCI-E, PCI slot# 3 is unusable wether you WC your 2nd PCI-E card or not. If you have no intention to run SLI then PCI slot 2 and 3 are usable :D down the road you might want to consider getting an X-Fi soundcard, it's way better than any onboard sound available out there, the X-Fi Xtrememusic sound quality is on par with my audiophile grade EMU soundcard that I use on my HTPC, definitely worth the upgrade especially if you're going to use that pc for gaming and entertainment, it's a whole new experience on BF2 with 128 voice enable. :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De
I think he was indeed referring to PCI slot #2 when he referred to it as "the third slot." With water cooling it would be the only option. I edited my post above for clarity on this point.Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Agreed! This is why, in my case, I just had to have an available PCI slot....for the X-Fi :banana:Quote:
Originally Posted by ben805
Well after working for two days on two systems with this board I have acheived better overclock and more stablitly than I had after 8 months of tweaking on sli-dr. I am very happy with it and highly reccomend it.
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Originally Posted by cronic
that's it? :D :D common....do tell more....hehe :p: any improvement over the SLI-DR? screenie? pro and con? features that you like or dislike? :D
I recieved my motherboard yesterday with bios 703. I installed everything and pc is waiting to boot. All I need is my evga 7800gtx ko edition card which I ordered 11/2/05 and I get it next monday due to holidays. I also was lucky to recieve my Corsair 3500ll Pro memory today. I installed the Thermalright xp-90c using the stock backplate. Will post results when availabe. Going to configure my Kingwin case to house all my watercooling components and will be using a coolermaster stacker to house all my pc parts. But that willnt be till next month. Currently everything is in my kingwin case and ready to boot. wish me luck.
good luck and have fun....hehe :D :D
what is the best bios right now in your opinion? i am using the stock bios of 703
use 703, that's the official released. but you certainly can try beta 804 and 805 and see if they do any good for you.
ben805 sent you a pm
thanks
have you found this board takes more or less vcore to get same results as a DFI? i read the whole thread a few days ago so i don't remember.
i have found so far that if i use 1.325vcore i cant install XP, but if i bump it up, then i can. the DFI only needed 1.325vcore for stock speeds.
Here are my results so far. Didn't mess with the memory timings as I have no clue what they do. It is at stock volts manually set in the bios. I tried 2.75ghz but it would not boot into windows and gave me a corruption message.
One thing I noticed is I had to go into ECC and DISABLE the settings otherwise I would not have been able to boot into windows even at stock unless everything i set to Auto.
The naming scheme of things are almost entirely different from their previous boards. They must have hired some new bios programmer or something. Anyways I didn't pop in my x2 3800 to see if i can get higher than 2.75 like I did on the Asus A8N-E (too lazy and too much of a hassle). BTW anyone wants a good clocking x2 3800 please PM me.
Temps seem a little high for watercooling, but at least the chipsets are nice and cool inside my UFO case.
I think I will leave it overnight for now and see if I can push higher tomorrow. Either I have a wonder chip or a great mobo. O the voltages doesnt fluctuate at all on CPUZ, wonder if its a bug.
slightly less, only one notch down...nothing to write home about.Quote:
Originally Posted by brschmid
Just remember the older DFI overvolted a little, lots of Expert user also experience the same as they also thought the new mobo needed more vcore to run at the same clock but in reality the Expert is just more accurate and give dead on vcore. You might also want to check your heatsink mount, how's your cpu temperature?
do you know where the read points are on the mobo so i can test them with a DMM??
i need 1.35v in bios to get stable at stock speed on this board, but man according to CPUz, it could not be more stable. same with pcprobe, but it reports about 0.04v higher (i hope anyway) which is why i would like to find the read points
PCProbe is reporting 36C under full load at stock (i am testing this first, i want to make sure i am good here and that my DFI board really was to blame) the DFI reported 35C max under dual Prime at 2400mhz, and i am at 2000mhz on ASUS :slapass: so which is correct?
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Originally Posted by situman
the ECC option was mentioned couple times in previous post that it need to be disable manually, and you'll also need to select 1T for your memory as well ;) and yes this A8N32 use American Megatrends BIOS, it take a shortwhile to get use to.
that's what I've been looking for the other night but still don't know which mosfet, coil or resistor to measure. Do not trust the vcore reading on CPUZ, PC Probe, or BIOS.....they're useless. When I set the vcore to 1.58v in the bios but it reads 1.60 in PC Probe but then CPUZ reports it at 1.375v :stick: Just set your vcore one notch at a time and if it's stable at 1.375v then leave it at that, test your stability with prime, occt, 3d or whatever you can get your hands on, ignore the vcore reading for now till we can find the proper place to get an accurate reading, and hopefully the next official bios will fixed this dang bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by brschmid
it is solid though, so that is good. even with software monitoroing i see no fluctuations.
have you messed with the "positive" dividers yet? on the dfi i was running 240x10 w/ 233 divider which made the ram 280mhz. i am wondering if they work on this board or not. The 233 worked on DFI but the 250 did not work properly
nope I haven't....most of the time I needed lower divider for 3.1~3.4Ghz run, I use mostly 183 and 166.
Guys, u can do what I did for the board, just watch your temps, do a test, make it jump .1 volts, record idle, record load, then u can gauge your volts off of your temps instead, true that the true temp is not known, but the temp jump should be consistent. give yourself a 5-7c cushion, if your temps are getting too high, it's time to back off obviously. This I find is a much more accurate way than guessing the vcore since we can't really measure it yet. (btw, it's accurate for me because I have no IHS) I don't think the method will work as good for ppl that have IHS because of various factors like bad IHS contact, TIM joint blah blah...I'm sure u can come up with your own method also, the point is consistancy.
ben805 as I can see from your sig you have the DFI board and the ASUS one...as you know my DFI Ultra-d has gone and now I have to choose a new MOBO...how does the ASUS satisfy your needs?...my config is as in the signature...but I`m thinking to get TCCD rams to keep the VDIMM under 3V...
Regards,
Primoz
This Asus board is rock solid and I love it more than the ultra-d, if my overclock was unstable it can be easily recover, ever since I bought this board I only needed to reset the cmos ONCE, that's when I used the buggy 502 bios when I was shooting for 3.5Ghz. :D But stick with 703 and up then you'll be fine, the bios will automatically relax the timing if memclock is unstable as well...I think it does it to prevent hardware damage so it's a good thing in my book eventhough it could be annoying sometime. It doesn't matter if I overclock on air or phase change...it has been a pleasure and it's working great, my biggest complaint about this board is the useless vcore reading. If you have the dual slots SLI setup with jumbo heatsinks then the PCI card location could be very tricky, that's a small price to pay I guess, though my 7800GT has regular size heatsink so I don't have any issue with my X-Fi soundcard in PCI slot# 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Primoz78
As for ram, it's shouldn't be a big deal to you as I'd mentioned on the other post that you can trade in or sell your 1GB Redline, that's what I did two weeks ago :D if not then get the OCZ booster to get more than 3.2 vdimm. Though I strongly recommend you to take a serious look at the OCZ EB and Redline 2GB kit, they both use the same Infineon ICs but OCZ is currently out of stock till next month so I get the Redline instead, just received them today and they kick the crap out of my 2GB Ballistix, I haven't even push these 2GB Redline yet!!
2GB Ballistix: 315 x 10.5: 3300Ghz on 183 divider, memclk 275 @3-3-3-8, 2.8v: Winrar benchmark: 717Mb/s
2GB Redline: 315 x 10.5: 3300Ghz on 166 divider, memclk 254 @3-3-2-8, 2.6v: Winrar benchmark: 742Mb/s
And also keep this in mind, nobody has come out with modded bios or exploit this board yet, so if you have a dual core or thinking about getting one...be prepare to get stuck at 1.58v, Asus does it to prevent stuff getting fried, and if your goal is WR then this board will not cut it for you at the moment. If you have a single core then this should not be an issue as my 148 Opty can get up to 1.77v so yours should get atleast 1.68v. I also missed the BIOS reloaded feature that DFI has, it's very useful when I wanted to save different settings say one for air and another for phase change. Another drawback is lack of support, we need to get some Asus tech in this forums :lol: But if you want a rock solid 24/7 SLI board....there's none better than this IMO. Take your time to look at all the posts here, I hit a new HTT record of 345 on this board....that's without the aid of clockgen whatsoever,345 boot right into windows, my Ultra-D can only do about 332 HTT and needed clockgen to get anything higher, so in overclocking perspective this board is excellent too!
So what do you use that pc for? if you need a 24/7 machine then you can't go wrong with this Asus, but if you want to squeze every little bit out of your system and wanted the highest benchmark possible and doesn't mind the risk...then for the time being you might want to give DFI another shot and perhaps stick with the older Lanparty or try the new Expert? When I get bored with this Asus I will more than likely get an Expert to play with :D :D