someone please explain to a n00b WTF is going on in this thread.....clearly it's not what i thought it was......nor Juan :p:
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someone please explain to a n00b WTF is going on in this thread.....clearly it's not what i thought it was......nor Juan :p:
First MAJOR failure with the Evap Tower this arvo during
preliminary testing this afternoon-->
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I asumed ClearFlex would hold the pressure of mains
water...obviously I was horribly wrong LOL...Luckily i
was sitting right in front of it feeling the water when all
of a sudden :: thud:: and the water level begain to rise....
QUICKILY HAHAHA... I switched the tap off on the inlet
(I knew I put it there for a reason hehehe) I shall swap
this out with the reinforced hose you see on the pump
to tower and that will be problem solved.
Also... The float is being relocated to its own seperate
enclosure...think of it as the bottom of the tower...on
its own base connected by a hose to water level of the
tower like so-->
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp...ES_dESINGE.JPG
Now... the reason for this is silence, while the mesh is
working in its current state its not 'silent' and that's how
I want it, I have gone to the trouble to make the Tower
and thus eliminating 3x120mm fans on a rad and replacing
it with a 92mm on 5volt...the pitter patter of water isn't acceptable
at current levels SO...with the reservoir setup it will feed
the main tower much the same way a budgie feeder or
automatic dog bowl does, when levels drop in main tower,
the res containing the float valve will top it off, when the
float level drops, the res will be filled again automatically
THUS allowing me to drop my mesh down to ~1cm off water
level eliminating all noise...This obviously cant be done
now as there is a good 6inch drop from the top of the float
valve to water level. Thankfully I can simply reuse all plexi
fittings i have already made, all i need do is cut new PVC,
should be back up in a day with MACH II
so wait a minute, we dont smoke outta these? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
The joke is getting pretty old now fellas, if you want to know how they work, read the thread its all explained :-)
Well then, as explained earlier this afternoon I will be building a seperate
reservoir for the toilet float to fill the main tower, before this was done
I needed to modify the existing base of the tower. Here's how-->
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First thing tomorrow (possibly even this evening after a rest)
I will make a cyclinder up from pvc to house the float and
the plexi fittings, this should be a quick affair, fingers crossed
will be up and running again tomorrow afternoon :-)
I decided to venture out and get a start on the reservoir/float unit this
evening -->
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp..._Res_Pic_1.jpg
Will rub it down first thing in the morning and paint it should be ready for a test late arvo I should think...
... Back with a running tower tomorrow :-)
Would there be much advantage to adding a small bong in series to a loop containing a 120.2 HC/Rad? I`m thinking along the lines of one deals with the main heatload in the water, and the other deals with that extra boost to remove the last bit of heat from the water. Is its worth persuing, would Rad-> Bong work best, and how would the pump fit in: I was thinking about taking the pump output as the feed to the bong coz it has most push at that point?
Pump-> Bong->Res-> block-> rad?
Res is part of bong
Ok so this is based on the same principle as the common cooling tower -
Warm to hot water is introduced into the top where it is dispersed or sprayed downward and falls through a rising column of air. It gets collected at the bottom and after a small portion evaporates it gives up considerable heat.
People keep these indoors? :eek:
If you've never seen a cooling tower just google it. Most designed can be shrunk down so a small fan (even 12 cm!) could be used. But it would have a lot of drift and be kind of noisy.
I suppose the long, narrow downdraft design of the so-called bong is efficient at induction (it certainly does wonders for marine protein skimming!) and will have less drift but in a dry atmosphere evaporation will still be high. Definitely need reserve if the system is going to be un-attended.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon
This is the whole reason mine is using a float system and hooked to mains water, the water level will remain constant....fully automated. All explained in previous pages.
Unfortunately we had a 4 hour power outage today and I wasn't
able to paint the new resorvoir, I did manage to get it undercoated though
but lacked enough air in the compressor to hit it with black...shall get to it
tomorrow :-)
I did pick up some stainless steel scouring pads to place
ontop of the screen to stop any noise and will also
increase surface area --->
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp...teelo_pads.jpg
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These will also act as a filter, any bugs that might happen
to make their way in through the top will stop before
reaching the base of the tower...
Anywayz...off for a beer back tomorrow fellas
Finished painting the reservoir this morning, shall let it dry this
afternoon and assemble later in the arvo.
I also slapped together a new 'shower head' from plexi to, I have tested
this already and the water drops straight down like | | instead
of the cone shaped fall / \ seen in the shower head, it has 45
holes, 5 more than the shower head, will be lit with 2x LEDS
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp...ies_pic_22.jpg
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Off to watch some One Day cricket action Aussies V England, will
be back with pics of the tower in action early this
evening....
OK then... think I have what a lot have been awaiting for :-P
SHE'S UP AND RUNNING http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp...viannen_28.gif
In my hast to connect it up (and get out of the heat earlier in the arvo)
I made the most noooooobish mistake...Hooked the reservoir up and blocked
off the outlet and inlet that will gotto pc, hooked up the shower head and
totally forgot to hook the bloody pipe to the outlet of the pump... :: waits
for readers to stop laughing :: HAHA... anywayz...as a result
POOOLS of water over the base and into the Thermaltake LCD...as a result shes
not working, has blue screen but no temp readings (actually got some
numbers up a few hours later all 888888's hopefully when she dries out
completely it will come good if not ill pop a new one in.
So then aside from that all went VERY well, I grabbed another digital temp
meter to get ambient and water readings, I let the tower run for
2 1/2 hours before taking readings to let the mains water warm up...here's some
pics of the tower in action and the temps it is producing -->
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Quite pleased with the temps, shall keep the tower on overnight
and check temps in the morning.
As you can see the LEDS at the top aren't connected and the
plexi brackets to hold the hose to the plexi pipe are still to be
made and fitted, both shall be done tomorrow, i will also
finish running mains water to under pc desk ready to move tower in...
Cheers for all the support and positive comments throughout
the build process, it went on longer than anticipated but then
these things usually do LOL ...It's always nice to come and
see people are appreciative of a your worklog and makes the effort
to do the log worthwhile... back in a few days with final update
hooked to pc and lit up like a Christmas tree...
Nice engeneering as usual! Looks really good and seems to work just fine.
6.5C below ambient is great.
Do you have any experience if the delta is always the same for very low and high ambient temps or does a bong work best in a certain temperature range?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fr3ak
Thanks Fr3ak :-)
No, have no experience time will tell on both accounts here buddy. I would think we will probably see some differing performance depending on ambient temps. I would have thought warm weather would be the coolers better environment, evaporation would increase and thus cooling? That said, if the cooler is in for example 15 degrees ambient environment, results as fair as cooling goes will still be pretty good I believe, the cool air blowing onto the mesh would have to be effective one would think no ? Bit of a hybrid style tower really with the large stainless steel mesh inserted plus the whole evap thing going on with the falling water, basically covering all basis for best performance in all conditions....welll, thats the plan LOL
As said though time will tell, I like the tower for looks alone wheter it works well or not LOL is a nice aqddition to my pc desk IMO, I also forgot to mention, its now very very very quiet :-)
Wow this is one stylish bong!!!!!! Before in this thread I saw "all you need is PVC pipe" which obviously is ugly. I knew there could be an asthetically pleasing solution. And you have done it!!! Wow I really admire you, I've seen your stuff on the internet before I came here, and like its so awesome!!! Oh and I sent you a pm, btw...
Cheers serial...oh i use a bandsaw or dremel to cut plexi depending how much what shape etc....
Lil Update-->
Finished up a few little bits today, just a lil bling and a few brackets
to hold the pipe and top LED wiring in place, also drilled out the holes
a lil on the head to see if the flow increases, it didn't LoL
I think what i will do is make another head but larger diameter
than this one with same number of holes but spread out more
and see if this makes any noticeable difference, only takes
~40 minutes and is scrap plex so cost very little, all part of
'fine tuning' I guess. Anyhooo here's a few quick pics of the tid bits
it did today--->
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Shall have to wait till this evening when its dark to see how
effective the 2xultrabrights in the plexi head are... either way
One step closer :: wink ::
Back Soon...
p.s I have had the tower running for the last
2 hours, its 30.5 degrees in my workshop the
water in the tower is sitting on 24.6 degrees.
OH, my Thermaltake LCD sensor is working
again too Woot... I guess the larger holes
in the head unit haven't hurt the performance
any :-)
I wasn't entirely happy with the water flow through
the head after I enlarged the holes, the water was
falling to a 'point' like \ / and i thought I could
improve this with increasing the gap between the
holes and also ever so slightly angling the holes-->
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It worked brilliantly, the water remaining virtually the same
diameter at the bottom as it is where it leaves the head.
I also reminded myself how bad this camera is at night shots
compared to mine I lost a week ago :-( After adding the final
LED's to the tower I waited for the sun to set and tried to
take some pics for all to see, to say they look alot better
in person is as big an understatement I'm ever likely to
make, never the less here she is, will give you some idea-->
http://www.myfoto.com.au/Photo/snapp...es_pic_25b.jpg
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I will have my mate I borrowed this camera off drop by with his
7MP camera once I have the tower installed inside on the pc
and get some high quality night shots...
Now I am happy with the look and performance of the tower
I shall finally get the mains line in tomorrow.
ciao for now
very impressive
i have to stick up photos of my bong coolers now
Cheers mate :-)
Would love to see more pics of coolers as I'm sure everyone else would
really helped me out browsing others designs before I built mine :-)
Was also wondering what has happened to Noob of L337 he posted back on page 4But have seen nothing since ;-S Was curious to see what he come up with as he was the one that started this thread :-SQuote:
I've just finished glueing up my bongs peices. (5 feet, 4" id pipe) and its drying...
Pics are taken but will go up with the worklog.
If there's a worklog anyone got a link to it?
In hindsight I should have started a new thread myself and done a seperate worklog ... I have got a worklog
of this Cooling Tower on other forums for those wishing to view it in its entirety from start to finish...
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Should I copy the worklog to XTremeSystems and delete the entries from this thread ya think??
Good friend came around today and fitted the ceiling fan for me,
something I simply can't do i'm afraid...for those that aren't aware
I been confined to a wheelchair since 1991 due to motobike crash...so
anything out of arms reach, height wise is pretty much no go zone,
refer to it as 'ducks disease ie. ass too close to the ground' HAHAHA
As always pics-->
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liking' it more each time I see it slotted in place on my desk...sooooo
lookin' forward to havin it running and pissin' off the fans on my rad
currently in use...hrmmmm loooovely siiiilence hehehe...oh..cept
for PSU, keep an eye out for my next project 2X550WATT antec
TRUEPOWER 2.0's in custom enclosure linked AND watercooled :-P
We are currently running lines for mains...be back soon :-)
Sweet setup, looks really great. My desk is way more messed up lol
Your work is perfect. I never imagined you were doing all that sitting in a wheelchair. Now I understand when you said that if you could build one everyone could. I dont think thats the case. You did an excellent job and with high quality, I doubt that I could build something close to what you did.
Thumbs up! 10/10 stars. Couldnt be any better :)
The idea with the room fan is pretty good. Using it will get most of the wet air out I suppose. Now finally hook it up to your PC ;)
I like my work area well organised Fr3ak hehe... the building of the
tower really isnt difficult a little time and patience i think most people
could come up with similar result... :-)
Final Update
OK..results & final pics with better camera...
Firstly though, I have modified the unit again!
The inlet and outlet have been 're-organised',
it is now more 'traditional' tower setup, I
have taken the Hydor L30 off, runs on the Swiftech
MCP 655 solely, pumping water through cpu, gpu
and the evap tower, the temp is 2 degrees better
without the Hydor L30. A complete new bottom
was cut and the old plexi brackets re-used.
Ambient temp 23
CPU
idle 32-33
100% load 40-41
(on stock Conroe E6600 settings)
Water temp is pretty constant on 27 degrees whether
cpu is under load or idle... In comparison to the radiator
the idle temps are ~ the same, the load temps however
are 4-5 degrees better...combine this with the absence of
fans in my case ie. the silent factor, the whole project
has been a big success IMO
My best mate Snapperfish came up with his new 7MP digital
camera and we shot some final pics to end this worklog off...
http://myfoto.westnet.com.au/Photo/s..._final_pic.jpg
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Finally I would just like to take this opportunity
to once again thank all those that provided input, support
and praise throughout the building of this unit.
I do hope all that took the time to view/read my worklog gained
something from it... until next project it is-->
Ciao for now
AJ
I've seen bongs at parties, but they weren't lan parties ^__-Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b 0f l337
On a more serious note: Sign me up for bongs. I'm going to try to build one. I want a small one that'll fit in a dorm room that'll cool a 320W TEC and a 437W TEC ...
How big was your bong that you used to cool the x2 437W TECs, NOL?
I think there's a subtlety though; cooling towers usually have extremely hot fluid entering...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubycon