dividers have nothing to do with the ram actually as far as I know, its all memory controller, in my case I know its neither the cpu or memory controller, so I know its the ram that wont overclock.
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dividers have nothing to do with the ram actually as far as I know, its all memory controller, in my case I know its neither the cpu or memory controller, so I know its the ram that wont overclock.
Yes I blame the ram, I stick 2x1gb geils in and everything works fine, I stick 2x512 OCZ in and everything works fine, I stick these G.Skills in and I can't boot over 270 or use a divider under 150.
well you got me beat mine would not go over 225 all I wanted was 250, your getting 270 !!
Wish I got your stix :rolleyes:
Over 270x9 I mean not 270 on the ram. Read my posts, mine killed my OC. All I wanted was 312x9 with a 133 divider running the ram at 200 and it couldn't even do that.
ok well I beat you then LMAO, wow thats pretty weak man,
on a side note I got my ddr500 2gb kit today and they are nice 250 out of the box and they auto'd at 3-3-3-7 instead of the rated 3-4-4-8, Got into windows at 275 but I am sick of messing with my rig. so they are sitting at 250 and I am content with 2.7ghz and 250
you two are really unlucky :(
so how is those kits going on in here now
who else can not overclock this ram let me know, i am doing the stat now
I just got a couple of those stix and right now they are sitting pretty at 265FSB 1:1 3-3-2-5 2.8v
I just popped them in, booted right up with 704BTA-2 bios set 265 and 3-3-2-5 and they went just fine. Will post pics later tonight.
I believe the HZ is what you're looking for if you want @GB ~280 3-3-2-5 ...
And they just reduced the price On newegg from $245 to $235 :D
Perkam
Yeah I traded the 3200's in for those, they are better for $235 for sure :p:
Does anyone here have this memory and a 3700+? Id like to see what FSBs are reached with different timings, Im interested to see, im having trouble choosing a 2gb kit, I really dont even know if 2gbs is worth getting yet...Oh im new here btw :), I think that just testing with an opteron is kind of a...bland testbed, I know every cpu is different, but I would really like to see the performance paired with a 3700...
Here's my 2wk old test with ZX and 3700+ |---> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...13&postcount=2Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalkobra
:slobber: 297x11 I saw that and I was like WHOOOA then I noticed your temps LOL, -10c im going water cooling for christmas, do you think that I could reach those speeds? did you ever try 10 x 300fsb? if so, did it work? I want those sticks you have, theyre awesome lol...man now its a toughie...
Well answer my other question...do you think its worth it to make the move to 2GBs?
In that 297x11, memory is on divider (look at the A64Tweaker) and ZX runs @ 272MHz 5-2-3-2.5-1T, which is MAX they go full-stable. I think my kit is somewhat above average, though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalkobra
Well, technically...shouldnt any memory be able to go somewhat higher on a divider? wether it be 10-15mhz? or is that wrong?
I can't see how it would help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Metalkobra
2 scenarios. To keep the same memory speed with a divider as you have 1:1, you have to:
1. To keep the CPU speed constant you lower the CPU multi and increase HTT. I can't see this helping memory clock, if anything bring system instability due to excessive HTT
2. Increase CPU speed so the memory on divider clocks up to what it was at 1:1. Let's say the CPU can handle the higher speed and is not a factor. I can't see this helping either.
If you are just saying that a divider alone(no other system changes), then yeah if you were running 200Mhz at 1:1 and put a 166 divider, now the mem is at 166Mhz then yeah you probably have another 33Mhz to go. I don't think that's what you are saying though.
For equal mem speed I can't see how the divider would help max mem speed.
it doesnt help max speed... it allows you to keep the memory down to a frequency that it will do while allowing you to still overclock.
Example
300X9=2.7
If 1:1 then ddr600
If your stix will only do 250 then
300X9=2.7
if 166 or 5:6 then ddr500 or there abouts.
I have this problem with a 3000 venice... it will do 2.7ghz but wont allow a HTT higher than 243.
I cant prime 250X9 for 2250mhz for more than a minute, but 300X8 flies with stock voltage and a 5:6 divider ....
I also got a pair of these 1gb gskil GBZX. But I also have the problem to boot with a divider under 166. They run just fine at 290 Mhz HTT with divider 166 and the settings posted by G.S Technician on the first page.
I also tried the bios and the settings posted by bachus_anonym to get lower divider, but it won't boot in windows. It just resets itself after the nvidia raid screen.
Hmm i just ordered me these Sticks. I hope they can do 295x9 @166 divider.Quote:
Originally Posted by x-men
That's what i am aaiming for.
So what's the problem then?Quote:
Originally Posted by x-men
Now, you guys need to understand that being able to run dividers have rather nothing to do with memory modules itself. As I said in my post earlier. With BIOS 704-1 I was not able to post with div133/140 during very quick test. I flashed to 623-3 and it's like a different world. With that said, it is up to BIOS settings that sometimes need to be adjusted for some dividers to work properly.
Another thing is OCing results from that ZX part. I'm not GSkill tech or anything like that but I have one of those kits. What you need to understand is, that it is PC3200 part, not PC4000 part. Therefore, as many pairs can OC well, some might also not do that great. This is probably the reason ZX is only in PC3200 flavor and it's price is so low. It's only $216, so think about it... That's why YMMV and you cannot come and complain everytime you can't see 240-260MHz out of it. If you want guaranteed 250MHz, go with kit that is rated at that speed.
The results with that kit seem to be very spread out... Some can do 27ish (very rare), some will do 250-260ish and some can do a lot less. You really need to understand that you have to take that risk as it's very cheap kit. It can do great but it can also be not so great. But it sure is a great bang for the buck, considering it's low price.
I think it depends on how much your ram will do. For mine its about 241 mhz with divider and about +10 mhz with 1:1. As I can't use lower dividers, 290-293 super-pi 32m stable is the end for me.
The bad thing is, with my old twinmos bh-5 I managed to get 3100 mhz prime stable on water with 133 divider.
Hmm they definatly have issues with dividers then it seems :(
Damn i hope i can keep my 295x9.
Abnout the ppl that say it's the CPU that affects dividers: I can run all dividers with my current Geil TCCD. I had 2 differend hi voltage RAM's (BH 5 and UTT) and they both couldn't run at all with a divider. (That was on a NEO2)
One type of RAM works liek a charm while others didn't - now how did the CPU make that happen? I agree that it might be a weak memory controller to some extent but it's not the CPU alone that affects this.
Hi bachus_anonym. I tried your settings, even the bios like you. But no chance to get into windows with low dividers. All I want from this ram is too run at 200 mhz, rated timings and a low divider. Every mhz on the ram is ok but I don't really worry about it if it doesn't do 250-260.
The only really sad thing for me is that I don't get the ram to work with low divider and htt about 300~320 mhz.
I will say it depends on all hardware, CPU, mobo, ram, HDD, everthing!!
different setup will result different overclock. Some ppl has many problem when they RMA their ram but there is no problem when I or RMA dep test it.
After all 2GBZX is DDR400 product, it is the top 10 cheapest 2gb ram on newegg...if it does DDR500 OC, that is good, but CPU divider is really depends on CPU's MC, mobo, and ram, or maybe more
Since dividers work just fine with my current TCCD my chances are quite good that it will work with the Gskill then right?Quote:
Originally Posted by G.S Technician
(RAM will be the only hardware i change)
Edit: And yes i find the price on these quite nice even though i have to pay 250€ for it wich is a lot more than peeps in the US. :(