In that case I have no clue hehe. I just remember OPB recently posting a screen of 32Xmhz at 2.5-3-3-6 in one of team italys threads.
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In that case I have no clue hehe. I just remember OPB recently posting a screen of 32Xmhz at 2.5-3-3-6 in one of team italys threads.
Here we go. Check post 13. Not a finished run though oops http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=84316
Don't bother with 2GB kits for 3D benching... 2GB of Samsung UCCC (8-4-4-3.0) or Infineon Rev.C (5-2-3-3.0) will not beat TCCD clock-for-clock. I don't have Crucial Ballistix (8-3-3-3.0) so I can't give you any results with that, but I would not expect it to beat TCCD (6-3-3-2.5-T).Quote:
Originally Posted by k|ngp|n
Recent TCCD has kicked BH5/UTT CH out of the benching memory throne or what? Why not just use a killer 1gb BH5 kit?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=237Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I don't want to hijack Vince's thread but as I said in my other thread:Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
I think that very good clocking 2x512MB BH-5/UTT is still the way to go and better for benching, especially when fighting with severe cold-bug that impairs CPU's ability to go high on HTT :)
Funny...cuz LucusScott ;) says exactly the opposite:Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
Quote:
Originally Posted by LucusScott
Steven,
300x13 6-3-3-2.5 will eat 260x15 6-2-2-2.0 (no doubt) but ONLY If you manage to run 300HTT. If particular CPU will do that under very cold temps, then 300MHz TCCD is the way to go. I have not seen anyone running 300MHz on TCCD above 3600MHz so we don't know If cold bug will not kick in @ 3900MHz preventing from going this high on HTT :)
edit: Also, it's true that low multi might get you some better HTT compared to higher one when fighting cold bug, but x13 is not exactly what we would call "low multiplier" anymore ;)
CNC normally you can send a cad file to a machine shop and they can make it for you but there is a price.
I don;t know waht a cnc stand for but its an automated mill end/lathe. Some models are millend only some lathe only and then the all in ones. The range new from around $25,000 for the most basic of cnc's. I have seen them as high as 500,000. It was a 6axis 4spindle 12,500rpm beast.
A cnc machine is seen in the pics in the 1st post. It cuts the material. They are thousands of dollars. You would want to go to a machine shop (look it up in the yellow pages) and give them a drawing of what you want and have them program and make it for you.
it stands for computer numeric control or something like that.
Your welcome and enjoy the learning.
Well that machine is in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.. near to 1/2 million with additional hardware and controls...Quote:
Originally Posted by vapb400
WOW:eek2: :eek2: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by chilly1
High bandwith will only help for 3dmark... Tccd aint gonna kick bh5/utt in hexus pifast or superpi. If so, everyone would bench with tccd, but again the coldbug cant afford high htt. So 2 times why tccd aint great for this kind of benching.Quote:
Originally Posted by bachus_anonym
For example 2x 280 2-2-2-5 will kick arse 320 2.5-3-3-7.... Just try it yourself (i did @ pifast and superpi 1m) 320 isnt even enough to beat the 280.... you need more than 325+ to beat it.
Ok i both have 2x256 but will do what i wrote above.. youre right, and i dont know what 2x512 will do .....
Very nice work Kingpin!!:clap: :clap:
This might be a stupid question but is thermal compound still used on the cpu with DICE/LN2 containers?
@Waus-mod and LucusScott...
Let's just leave Vince's thread alone here as our discussion does not fit in this section very well... If you want to debate further, I would rather see you guys in my thread - 3DMark2001/03/05 .: vs :. 512MB/1024MB/2048MB - Comparison.
Thanks for understanding :)
Of course, you need some way of transfering the heat ;) Most everyone uses AS ceramique because it works at COLD temps and can be had for cheap in large quantities. I believe kyosen has used AS5 with good results and I've heard a few people say generic white paste actually works best. KP what do you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by MTP04
Nice work, Kingpin:toast:
@afireinside:
Can AS 5 be good with xtreme low temps, dont think soCode:AS 5:
Thermal Resistance:
<0.0045°C-in2/Watt (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Conductance:
>350,000W/m2 °C (0.001 inch layer)
Average Particle Size:
<0.49 microns <0.000020 inch
Extended Temperature Limits:
Peak: –50°C to >180°C Long-Term: –50°C to 130°C
AS Ceramique
Thermal Resistance:
<0.007°C-in2/Watt (0.001 inch layer)
Thermal Conductance:
>200,000W/m2.°C (0.001 inch layer)
Average Particle Size:
<0.38 microns <0.000015 inch
( 67 particles lined up in a row equal 1/1000th of an inch. )
Temperature limits:
Peak: –150°C to >180°C Long-Term: –150°C to 125°C
AS5 will get "hard" and the thermal conductivity will be bad! Use silicon or Ceramic.
Thanks for the replys guys:)
Good info there Dani, I thought that might be the case with AS5.
He did - until I suggested he use AS ceramique - now check his new OC's ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
By Dani's chart, AS5 should be OK for something like Mach2 or so. 150 for long term use, thats about what some mach2's do. Maybe not a modded mach2.
I used to used the cheapy stuff...but now I use ceramique faithfully. Once I started to bench ln2 on a reg basis, I realized that the thinner paste gets thin and watery and tends breaks down after regular freezing. With the ceramique, I dont have to break down the conainer/insulation to remount as much due to temps from the paste getting bad. It stays thick longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside