ATI News Thread

That's what they sell for....that's why he thinks that.

actually they sell for more than that.. but is mostly because of R&D costs have to be recouped...

lol. a bit more, but dependant on chip. I already posted the old pricerange..i dunno what the price is for the x800 series, as noone other than sapphire builds those boards now...so there is no possible way for me to know waht ATI is charging sapphire for them.

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Originally Posted by nn_step

Yes each wafer can on average make over 10,000 chips..and at the cost of $7,000 per wafer... it is less than $1 to make a chip.. and lets just say only 20% of the chips are used that is still less than $5... so what makes you think they cost $50 apiece?

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10k chips per wafer?! What are you smoking? pi*150*150 = 71000mm^2 area....each chip is 12mm * 12mm (this is smaller than actual, I'm being nice), meaning 144mm^2, which translates into <500 chips per wafer. 10k is 20x that :stick:

This is for 300mm wafer to boot. I'm going by raw area, ignoring the fact that the wafer is round and the edge chips won't be complete.

we are speaking of Wafer slabs not the Wafers themself...

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Originally Posted by nn_step

we are speaking of Wafer slabs not the Wafers themself...

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At $7000? Each wafer is AT LEAST ~$3000, how do you figure to get a slab for $7000? $7000 makes sense for a wafer after production costs.

10 k per wafer :cheer2: :nuts: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

300mm wafers, a chip being AT LEAST 10MM².....


for 10k per wafer, concidering the wafer would be cornerd so a rectangle, you'd need a wafer with....

1000 x 1000 mm specifications, lets not forgot wafer are NOT rectangular, they are round, that there are ALWAYS broken/buggy cores on a wafer.....


BTW the bigger your wafer gets the worse the yields off course. The wafercount stays the same but the number of cores on the wafer that might cause problems goes up :)

you do realize that they are not bought precut right?

You do realize that when it's all said and done, each WAFER is $7000+? They are not cheap.

All said and done.. You will pay all of their costs period...
But do you think it will perform...

Let`s just see the facts. Intel makes their chips for $40 a piece - and that`s w/o any kind o`package or label. It`s just small piece o`silicon with all the materials projected on it - crystal.
GPUs are more complicated and bigger - I think everybody knows that. So I guess my ~$50 a core (crystal) is a bit less than the actuall cost.
So let`s stop confusing each other with the numbers we(and myself) don`t know for sure. :toast:

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Originally Posted by Cooper

Let`s just see the facts. Intel makes their chips for $40 a piece - and that`s w/o any kind o`package or label. It`s just small piece o`silicon with all the materials projected on it - crystal.
GPUs are more complicated and bigger - I think everybody knows that. So I guess my ~$50 a core (crystal) is a bit less than the actuall cost.
So let`s stop confusing each other with the numbers we(and myself) don`t know for sure. :toast:

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The problem with that estimate is that Intel is actually extremely efficient. Half the point of that report was to point out that no other company can even come close to rivalling $40 a core. I'd peg GPU a core closer to earlier estimates of $80, based off the size, complexity and the lack of skillz by other companies to pump out cheap sh*t.

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Originally Posted by nn_step

All said and done.. You will pay all of their costs period...
But do you think it will perform...

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From the looks of it, I will probably never own an R520 product...I already have a 7800GTX that makes me quite happy with my benchmark scores and games at the utmost of quality. R580 might be worth my time though :D

Guys what is this?

http://www.mission-emotion.com/

A banner with the countdown appears in the middle of Komplett.no's frontpage..

As R520 is launching at October 4th, what is this.. crossfire?

Edit: Or maby just X800GTO :P
*jawn*

that add is for the x800GT :stick:

September 15th is Crossfire, i think. very strange.

Err september 15th is today/tomorrow :P

As far as I know :)

yes, but ATI is canadian company, based in same country as me, and here it is 5pm local time september 14th...

I've been hearing the 24th for CF...15th is a very old rumor.

yeah, i think it was mine ;) :D


Honestly tho, i dunno what the hell that's about...maybe the X800GTO launch, seiing how it's posted on the x800GT site as well. :D

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Originally Posted by Vapor

From the looks of it, I will probably never own an R520 product...I already have a 7800GTX that makes me quite happy with my benchmark scores and games at the utmost of quality. R580 might be worth my time though :D

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well in the end anyone but ATi will be paying for R&D and production...
I guess we will both have to wait...

ATI tests X1800XT PE version of R520 with 800MHz on core

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This thread is full of crap, someone please clean it. Otherwise, just unsticky and make new threads for every new ATI rumour. A third option would be to only let the XS News team post in it.

Seriously, this thread has gone completely out of hand.

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Originally Posted by Cooper

ATI tests X1800XT PE version of R520 with 800MHz on core

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Cooper, please, tell us all how you made all that out... AFAIK the missing parts are not in Russian.

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Originally Posted by HKEPC

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It`s chinees :D
IMO all that is readable says it all.
Krille this thread is for unofficial ATI news. So rumors are welcomed here :)