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03-14-2005, 12:47 PM
perkam

Hopefully ATI actually fulfills its promise of a 9600-based onboard video...uptil now its been X300 and it sucks in 01 :(

Speaking of 01...OPP has started a new thread on the future of 01 in the XS 3d section :D

Perkam
03-14-2005, 03:53 PM
Nanobot

I just emailed DD and this is what they replied :

Quote:"sorry we are unable to
give any information about the new ATI board and or water blocks. All
questions need to be handled by ATI them selves"

So it's still a guess work as to where the waterblocks will be available from.My guess;Sapphire as a mobo option.
Who knows Sapphire might make the mobo and wb available similarly to one of thier "Toxic" line of video cards with Arctic Cooling Silencers,the mobo with water blocks would fit nicely in the Toxic line especially with the white and red color scheme.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grayskull

A common misconception is that onboard graphics somehow detracts from overclocking. In our architecture, there is no reason to believe this. The only thing that onboard graphics does is thrash the system memory a little harder. If the system fails with onboard graphics because of this, it only means it's not totally stable. Also, if you are running an external graphics card, the onboard graphics can be totally disabled and it's as if it was never there.

As for the waterblocks, since there has also been some questions regarding them...they are going to be offered as aftermarket components from Danger Den. They will look exactly as shown. I didn't measure the fittings but I believe they were 3/8" fittings. Feel free to ask Danger Den directly.
03-14-2005, 03:59 PM
thebluesgnr

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Hopefully ATI actually fulfills its promise of a 9600-based onboard video...uptil now its been X300 and it sucks in 01 :(

Speaking of 01...OPP has started a new thread on the future of 01 in the XS 3d section :D

Perkam

The X300 is the 9600 in PCI-E. The problem with the onboard video is that it's slower than X300SE.
03-14-2005, 09:19 PM
elec999

Heres another view of this board.
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDUw
Thanks
03-14-2005, 09:51 PM
zabomb4163

in another thread he reportedly broke the air WR fsb using this board easily. he also says that it is superior to the DFI board in terms of overclocking ability.
03-14-2005, 09:59 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by zabomb4163

in another thread he reportedly broke the air WR fsb using this board easily. he also says that it is superior to the DFI board in terms of overclocking ability.

With the Specs It has, I wouldn't doubt It. I intend to get one and set It up this way:

That will only need
an FX-57 2.8GHz cpu,
a Corsair CMX512-3200LL 512Mb Dimm,
a PC-7a vapochill modified Black case,
an Aspire 520w psu,
a Sapphire Grouper motherboard(VGA onboard already),
a Vapochill LS(Black),
a 20Gb 7200rpm hdd(I already have It),
a CoolerMaster Aquagate Water Cooling System (ALC-U01) for NB chip & the Mosfets.

So I wonder what is the AMD Vapochill LightSpeed WR right now?
03-15-2005, 01:48 AM
reject

like 3.4ghz on a modded Ls on a fx53 or 55 isnt it?
i really like this mobo
03-15-2005, 09:14 AM
SlackeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

With the Specs It has, I wouldn't doubt It. I intend to get one and set It up this way:

That will only need
an FX-57 2.8GHz cpu,
a Corsair CMX512-3200LL 512Mb Dimm,
a PC-7a vapochill modified Black case,
an Aspire 520w psu,
a Sapphire Grouper motherboard(VGA onboard already),
a Vapochill LS(Black),
a 20Gb 7200rpm hdd(I already have It),
a CoolerMaster Aquagate Water Cooling System (ALC-U01) for NB chip & the Mosfets.

So I wonder what is the AMD Vapochill LightSpeed WR right now?

I would rather ditch the FX and buy a bette PSU. realize how important these things are?? ;)
03-15-2005, 09:20 AM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlackeR

I would rather ditch the FX and buy a bette PSU. realize how important these things are?? ;)

It has 35 Amps on the +12v rail and powers zoom2 @ 2.34GHz 24/7 and no that is not peak amps which I believe is somewhat higher.
03-15-2005, 09:44 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

With the Specs It has, I wouldn't doubt It. I intend to get one and set It up this way:

That will only need
an FX-57 2.8GHz cpu,
a Corsair CMX512-3200LL 512Mb Dimm,
a PC-7a vapochill modified Black case,
an Aspire 520w psu,
a Sapphire Grouper motherboard(VGA onboard already),
a Vapochill LS(Black),
a 20Gb 7200rpm hdd(I already have It),
a CoolerMaster Aquagate Water Cooling System (ALC-U01) for NB chip & the Mosfets.

So I wonder what is the AMD Vapochill LightSpeed WR right now?

:D Don't know, got no Lightspeed and no WR but take a look at PIC in SIG - done with a stock MACH II GT, of course a suicide shot.... :toast:
03-15-2005, 09:57 AM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Don't know, got no Lightspeed and no WR but take a look at PIC in SIG - done with a stock MACH II GT, of course a suicide shot.... :toast:

Nice pic, I hope It still works, albeit at a slower speed... :toast: :toast:
03-15-2005, 10:03 AM
OPPAINTER

Quote:

Originally Posted by zabomb4163

in another thread he reportedly broke the air WR fsb using this board easily. he also says that it is superior to the DFI board in terms of overclocking ability.

And what exactly is that world record? :D

OPP
03-15-2005, 10:09 AM
cadaveca

lol..let's see the screen, then. I'm sure jaws will drop.
03-15-2005, 10:39 AM
philter

Looks gud - but myself - I'd rather wait for maybe next one down the line for goodies like NCQ/SATA II on S/B and better embedded audio maybe summert like Cmedia's new DD LIVE Chip, and a few more USB
Specs do look promising but will leave the tesing/breakin in to others as I'm sick ov f@%Kin around with boards ATM just want a board that will perform well and keep permormin well!!
Any ov you guys n gals got a rig that has a week + uptime BTW??
03-15-2005, 10:43 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

Nice pic, I hope It still works, albeit at a slower speed... :toast: :toast:

:D Yes still working, but I'm waitin' for my RMA'd DFI NF4 - hope to get a little improvement with that board.

"Suicide shot" means that immedeately after taking the screenie system crashed....., but who cares, it was "stable for a screenie"......

:toast:
03-15-2005, 01:54 PM
SlackeR

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

It has 35 Amps on the +12v rail and powers zoom2 @ 2.34GHz 24/7 and no that is not peak amps which I believe is somewhat higher.

well i know how it performs.
And i know a lot of people in Denmark who has lost harddrives due to a 12v line well beyond 13v, it has no sense lines, so you cant even mod it to fit your needs (which may not be a critical point on Sapphire but whatever), the lines put out quite a few amps, but i have seen people gain a lot of mhz going from Aspire to OCZ. Noise is an issue too.
Anyway if you have it already it might be worth it. I just think it is silly to go with a half-decent PSU along with a FX-55.
BTW: is that really only one stick of ram? no dualchannel? Don't get me wrong, the system sounds fun, and i might have misunderstood it, but i really think it sounds like that FX is overkill if you dont upgrade the rest of your system.
03-15-2005, 02:10 PM
zoom314

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlackeR

well i know how it performs.
And i know a lot of people in Denmark who has lost harddrives due to a 12v line well beyond 13v, it has no sense lines, so you cant even mod it to fit your needs (which may not be a critical point on Sapphire but whatever), the lines put out quite a few amps, but i have seen people gain a lot of mhz going from Aspire to OCZ. Noise is an issue too.
Anyway if you have it already it might be worth it. I just think it is silly to go with a half-decent PSU along with a FX-55.
BTW: is that really only one stick of ram? no dualchannel? Don't get me wrong, the system sounds fun, and i might have misunderstood it, but i really think it sounds like that FX is overkill if you dont upgrade the rest of your system.

That will only need
an FX-57 2.8GHz cpu,
a G.Skill 512Mb TCCD PC4400 Dimm,
a Sapphire Grouper motherboard(VGA onboard already),
an OCZ 520w psu,
a PC-7a vapochill modified Black case,
a Vapochill LS(Black),
a CoolerMaster Aquagate Water Cooling System (ALC-U01) for NB chip & the Mosfets,
a 20Gb 7200rpm hdd(I already have It).

How's this?

I'd get the case in a Blue color, But It isn't really neccessary as Black will do.
Oh and this is a New system from the ground up, except for the hdd as It will mostly be used for crunchin numbers for Seti or such. a Dual core FX when It arrives would be really nice, But that is a ways off past the horizon.

Although I'd rather stay with a single Dimm as It is usaully easier to overclock one Dimm than with Two Dimms.
03-15-2005, 02:36 PM
RAINFIRE

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlackeR

well i know how it performs.
And i know a lot of people in Denmark who has lost harddrives due to a 12v line well beyond 13v, it has no sense lines, so you cant even mod it to fit your needs (which may not be a critical point on Sapphire but whatever), the lines put out quite a few amps, but i have seen people gain a lot of mhz going from Aspire to OCZ. Noise is an issue too.
Anyway if you have it already it might be worth it. I just think it is silly to go with a half-decent PSU along with a FX-55.
BTW: is that really only one stick of ram? no dualchannel? Don't get me wrong, the system sounds fun, and i might have misunderstood it, but i really think it sounds like that FX is overkill if you dont upgrade the rest of your system.

You mean like this FX-55 with an Aspire? http://www.fx-55.com/watercool/ ? Hehehe - actually now I've sold the FX-55 USED for $950.00 and bought an OCZ Powerstream 520W, X850 XT PE, and a AMD 3500+ Winnie. Here's the current rig http://www.fx-55.com/myrig/ . Couldn't resist . . . :toast:
03-16-2005, 04:37 AM
G0DZILLA

lol , still no availability or pricing :(
03-16-2005, 04:44 AM
hchu

Quote:

Originally Posted by G0DZILLA

lol , still no availability or pricing :(

From the Inquirer:
"The company made this motherboard in cooperation with ATI, and it's supposed to make it ready sometime in April."
03-16-2005, 05:51 AM
reject

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoom314

It has 35 Amps on the +12v rail and powers zoom2 @ 2.34GHz 24/7 and no that is not peak amps which I believe is somewhat higher.

slacker is right, that psu is really 300w. i have one and it barely works on a stock tbred/ rad 7000 system, undervolts heaps
03-16-2005, 06:56 AM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:D Any secret pretest so far ? :toast:
03-16-2005, 07:22 AM
situman

available soemtime in April. Meaning a month after should be the right time to pick up the board, depending on what kind of results/problems early adopters have. So I would guess Mid May (assuming it does come out in April) is the right time to jump on this board.
03-16-2005, 08:01 AM
qdemn7

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

available soemtime in April. Meaning a month after should be the right time to pick up the board, depending on what kind of results/problems early adopters have. So I would guess Mid May (assuming it does come out in April) is the right time to jump on this board.

Good, that means by July (my vacation month), all the bugs should have been found and rung out, so I can buy one with confidence (maybe). :slobber:
03-16-2005, 08:42 AM
EQS-Bob

Eqs M56k9-mlf

HI

I must say the Sapphire version look great with a very lovely colour but my EQS M56K9-MLF is running smooth

ATi xpress 200 chipset(RS480) is the best chipset i seem so far , Vaule for Money.

Just last night I was playing Half Life 2 on it with the onboard graphics still running smooth DX 9.0 support from Hardware.

Anyway EQScomputers.com is avaliable in Europe.
ATX version also out now called M58K9-MLF

Some news from Hexus.net

http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD0xMDQ0

:banana:

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