******Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4 Discussion Thread******

Well, I just tried the P67A-UD4, and I have to say that, after having quite high expectations, I'm very disappointed in Gigabyte.

First of all, after installing all the drivers and utilities (ET6 and Intel Tuning Utility) I found that neither of the two function correctly (ET6 tunes the Multi down to non-turbo when started and then doesn't let me get it back up to 45 which it boots with) and Intel Tuning Utility shows an intermittent clock of 6.5GHz (rofl) and displays all the wrong voltages.

Second, I flashed F7 bios and there's no PLL overvoltage option. Logically speaking, when a beta version has something the official release should have it as well (unless otherwise specified). What's up with that???


As much as I liked Gigabyte from previous experiences, my current choice would be an Asus P8P67 board, since it's in-windows overclocking utility actually works and BIOS actually contains all the necessary functions to successfully overclock a good chip.

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Originally Posted by GeorgeVasil

Have you Updated the backup Bios to?

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yes, they match, it was completly unworkable without matching bios'; cold boot issues plague these gig boards:(

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Originally Posted by miahallen

Tried it both ways :-/

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That shouldn't be happening.
Did you clear the cmos after flashing?

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Originally Posted by jumper2high

Well, I just tried the P67A-UD4, and I have to say that, after having quite high expectations, I'm very disappointed in Gigabyte.

First of all, after installing all the drivers and utilities (ET6 and Intel Tuning Utility) I found that neither of the two function correctly (ET6 tunes the Multi down to non-turbo when started and then doesn't let me get it back up to 45 which it boots with) and Intel Tuning Utility shows an intermittent clock of 6.5GHz (rofl) and displays all the wrong voltages.

Second, I flashed F7 bios and there's no PLL overvoltage option. Logically speaking, when a beta version has something the official release should have it as well (unless otherwise specified). What's up with that???


As much as I liked Gigabyte from previous experiences, my current choice would be an Asus P8P67 board, since it's in-windows overclocking utility actually works and BIOS actually contains all the necessary functions to successfully overclock a good chip.

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Having PLL override enabled causes a MUCH bigger chance of a boot loop or a power down/power up after shutting down from windows, or changing a setting than having it disabled. It's also difficult to make an overclock setting "stick" with PLL override enabled, even at known stable settings, without getting a failed OC or one loop. This is probably why GB doesn't have it in their official bioses.

In over 30 restarts, I haven't had a single boot loop after changing bios settings (though I think BCLK change causes a power off) or after a restart from windows, with PLL override disabled.

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Originally Posted by Falkentyne

Having PLL override enabled causes a MUCH bigger chance of a boot loop or a power down/power up after shutting down from windows, or changing a setting than having it disabled. It's also difficult to make an overclock setting "stick" with PLL override enabled, even at known stable settings, without getting a failed OC or one loop. This is probably why GB doesn't have it in their official bioses.

In over 30 restarts, I haven't had a single boot loop after changing bios settings (though I think BCLK change causes a power off) or after a restart from windows, with PLL override disabled.

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Could be - but, NOT having PLL Overvoltage guarantees the overclock won't go past 4.5GHz. I had it fully stable at 4.9GHz on an Asus board, then I took the GA board for a spin and had nothing but disappointment from that point on.

EDIT: Flashed F8b bios - after a few quite random restarts and powerdowns, finally able to boot into windows, I restarted and set 4.8GHz with a slightly higher voltage than on ASUS (was 1.33 on Asus, put 1.345 on GA) and it still kept coming up with an error after several minutes of prime95.

Sad to admit, but first chance I get, I'm putting back the Asus board in.

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Originally Posted by Falkentyne

Having PLL override enabled causes a MUCH bigger chance of a boot loop or a power down/power up after shutting down from windows, or changing a setting than having it disabled. It's also difficult to make an overclock setting "stick" with PLL override enabled, even at known stable settings, without getting a failed OC or one loop. This is probably why GB doesn't have it in their official bioses.

In over 30 restarts, I haven't had a single boot loop after changing bios settings (though I think BCLK change causes a power off) or after a restart from windows, with PLL override disabled.

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Good to hear....thanks for that...I will test with that off...and let you guys know. Cheers. I need to be a 4.7 to 4.8 though....I hope I can get there with pll off

Simon

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Originally Posted by jumper2high

Could be - but, NOT having PLL Overvoltage guarantees the overclock won't go past 4.5GHz. I had it fully stable at 4.9GHz on an Asus board, then I took the GA board for a spin and had nothing but disappointment from that point on.

EDIT: Flashed F8b bios - after a few quite random restarts and powerdowns, finally able to boot into windows, I restarted and set 4.8GHz with a slightly higher voltage than on ASUS (was 1.33 on Asus, put 1.345 on GA) and it still kept coming up with an error after several minutes of prime95.

Sad to admit, but first chance I get, I'm putting back the Asus board in.

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Was F8b at 4.8 with pll off? Seems crazy they can't sort this basic bios stuff out. They need to loosen their criteria when they check for oc at boot; this is just plain ridiculus!

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Originally Posted by Falkentyne

That shouldn't be happening.
Did you clear the cmos after flashing?

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I'm usually pretty meticulous about that sort of thing, but no...I don't think I did this time :rolleyes:

I'll give it another shot in a few days (my Monday today).

Hi guys I come across this new GB P67A UD4 F8f Beta BIOS if anyone wants to give it a spin.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vk1bko5dl9e9ace

-fix "Vcore + DVID + cold start"
-fix Vdimm

Date: 18.02.2011

Don’t ask me no questions & I'll tell you no lies!!!

Thanks C-N i will give it a try..

I will repost back soon.

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Thanks for the beta bios info. Will try that one this week; god I hope it fixes the cold boot issues.....Please lord!!

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Originally Posted by C-N

Hi guys I come across this new GB P67A UD4 F8f Beta BIOS if anyone wants to give it a spin.

http://www.mediafire.com/?vk1bko5dl9e9ace

-fix "Vcore + DVID + cold start"
-fix Vdimm

Date: 18.02.2011

Don’t ask me no questions & I'll tell you no lies!!!

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It seems to work nice with this Bios. No cold starts at all, no insane voltages.

Voltage drops to 0,9-1v when Idle and goes up to 1.21-1.22v when Prime-ing (In my case I choose Normal/-0.100v for 44x100).

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What the "fix Vdimm" stands for?

Is it possible to make 0.01v Vram Steps in future Bios?

"fix Vdimm":
Previous BIOS's optimized defaults=>Vdimm 1.5240V(CPU-Z or any soft)
F8f BIOS optimized defaults=>Vdimm 1.5000V

i am going to replace my ud4 with asus deluxe. thank you

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Originally Posted by aytacaksel

i am going to replace my ud4 with asus deluxe. thank you

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+1, im going to try my luck with an Asus p67 as well. Did not like this board one bit. It has issues with my X-FI titanium HD as well.

if x-fi issue is crack sound, easly fixed by disabling Intel Virtualization Technology.
just i dont want 2x copper and black design and endless booting... i want extra 2x sata port, uefi bios, bluetooth, clr cmos power reset button on mb, front usb panel.

After some benches my UD4 needs disabled all the power saving options to be stable, because if there are enabled the mobo undervolts the cpu and I have BSOD
this is happens with all bios that I try.. :(

so the B3 boards are on gigabyte's site. doesn't look like anything changed. no extra SATA ports, clear cmos, post LED, LAN, or any other features. looks like I'll be going with an Asus P67 instead this time around. (if they let me get a refund still)

also... my system seems to be degrading. where it was stable before it's no longer. seems every week I have to drop it another 100mhz. 4.8, 4.7, 4.6, 4.5

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Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

so the B3 boards are on gigabyte's site. doesn't look like anything changed.

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you are wrong!

GA-P67A-UD4 (rev. 1.0)
Realtek ALC892 codec

GA-P67A-UD4-B3 (rev. 1.1)
Realtek ALC889 codec

thats what i was waiting for

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My expereince with this board has been utter crap has well.. think i'll be changing in that refund and going with asus or ASRock

yes bad experience; they NEED to fix cold boot starting issues....absolutely insane!

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Originally Posted by LeetMiniWheat

so the B3 boards are on gigabyte's site. doesn't look like anything changed. no extra SATA ports, clear cmos, post LED, LAN, or any other features. looks like I'll be going with an Asus P67 instead this time around. (if they let me get a refund still)

also... my system seems to be degrading. where it was stable before it's no longer. seems every week I have to drop it another 100mhz. 4.8, 4.7, 4.6, 4.5

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That sounds pretty bad...

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Originally Posted by simon747

yes bad experience; they NEED to fix cold boot starting issues....absolutely insane!

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Flash Main and Backup BIOS with F8f or latest F8i BIOS.:D

Are you sure f8f or f8i fix the cold boot issues; I have a windows stable system at 4.7 only and have cold boot issues on all beta bios???f or
Are f8f or f8i any better for the cold boot issues?

F8F is piece of crap. No boot for 4.8 Ghz or higher