Windows Server 2008 is 20% faster than Vista

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04-12-2008, 10:42 PM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emerica

Here's what you do. Right after you install do:

Code:

su - apt-get install xserver-xorg xfce4 xfce4-goodies

Then, use this site to install your nvidia drivers http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/11...-debian-lenny/. But, you should download the latest version from the nvidia website which will require a little bit of editing to that tutorial.

What if I wanted to compile my own 2.6.24.4 kernel?

Here is my perfect Linux distrobution.

Quote:

Originally Posted by My dreams of an operating system

Perfect Linux Distribution (64-bit):
Kernel 2.6.24.4 configured to have nothing unnecessary
nVIDIA 3D Drivers

Firefox 3.0 beta 5
Pidgin 2.4.1

Xfce 4.4.2
X.Org X11 R7.3
Xfwm4

I did exactly that, except I grabbed the sudo package aswell.

I do not like how if I want to switch from my XOrg session to a TTY, it freezes and I have to restart my entire system. Do you know if that is because I did not install the nVIDIA drivers?

If I could get Xfce4 to work, without looking disgusting, it would be the perfect operating system.
04-12-2008, 11:08 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by MuffinFlavored

What if I wanted to compile my own 2.6.24.4 kernel?

Here is my perfect Linux distrobution.

I did exactly that, except I grabbed the sudo package aswell.

I do not like how if I want to switch from my XOrg session to a TTY, it freezes and I have to restart my entire system. Do you know if that is because I did not install the nVIDIA drivers?

compile the magic sys request keys into your kernel and you wont risk losing anything

Sync +Unmount +Reboot
04-12-2008, 11:28 PM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by safan80

compile the magic sys request keys into your kernel and you wont risk losing anything

Sync +Unmount +Reboot

It took me like, an hour to configure everything.
I still had problems though, like AHCI, IDE, ICH9R, all that.

I did all of the tests on fresh installs with my backup disk far away out of the system.

Off-topic:
NewEgg does not sell the high end Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 anymore?
I was going to search their specifications to find out what controller I used (turned out to be ICH9R), but it isn't on the site anymore.

The "high-end" discontinued board that won't let me do 4.0GHz with a Q6700. :(
04-15-2008, 03:59 AM
malik22

You guys who have had experience with vista with SP1 and server 2008 do you still think server is faster for games even after vista sp1?
04-15-2008, 06:46 AM
RAW-Raptor22

Quote:

Originally Posted by malik22

You guys who have had experience with vista with SP1 and server 2008 do you still think server is faster for games even after vista sp1?

yes, definitely. :up:
04-15-2008, 07:06 AM
triple_A

Quote:

Originally Posted by malik22

You guys who have had experience with vista with SP1 and server 2008 do you still think server is faster for games even after vista sp1?

meh, not so sure about that..

I'm on vista64 again right now and can't really say that it feels slower..don't notice any difference in games etc..

The only thing i do notice is that vista boots faster than server08 :)
04-15-2008, 09:23 AM
TadehI

This is going to sound stupid, but can you use Vista 32 bit drivers with Server 08 even though its a 64bit OS? My laptop manufacture doesn't make 64bit vista drivers. I doubt you can, but I figured I would ask.

Thanks!
04-15-2008, 09:46 AM
Papu

Quote:

Originally Posted by TadehI

This is going to sound stupid, but can you use Vista 32 bit drivers with Server 08 even though its a 64bit OS? My laptop manufacture doesn't make 64bit vista drivers. I doubt you can, but I figured I would ask.

Thanks!

nope allot of oem's dont make 64bit drivers or windows available
04-15-2008, 12:12 PM
Metroid

Quote:

Originally Posted by TadehI

This is going to sound stupid, but can you use Vista 32 bit drivers with Server 08 even though its a 64bit OS? My laptop manufacture doesn't make 64bit vista drivers. I doubt you can, but I figured I would ask.

Thanks!

Windows Server 08 is not only a 64 bit version, it has a 32 bit version too. You can use Vista 32 drivers for Windows Server 08 32 bit or you can use Vista 64 drivers for Windows Server 08 64 bit. It is up to you to choose the best OS for your daily usage..

Metroid.
04-17-2008, 06:10 AM
JMKS

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMKS

So, anyone managed to run [bench] PCMark Vantage on 2008 yet? I believe this is same "protection against Server OS'es" like in 3DMark Vantage will be.
On "stock" 2008 it installs and then it wants... "Vista" :rofl: :down:

Anyone? As the 3DM V is approaching soon, it will be nice to know if we [2008 users] will be forced to use Vista only for that one bench or not...
04-17-2008, 11:04 AM
nn_step

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metroid

Windows Server 08 is not only a 64 bit version, it has a 32 bit version too. You can use Vista 32 drivers for Windows Server 08 32 bit or you can use Vista 64 drivers for Windows Server 08 64 bit. It is up to you to choose the best OS for your daily usage..

Metroid.

the 64bit is faster, the only reason to go 32bit is if your processor doesn't support 64bit...
04-17-2008, 05:05 PM
bakalu

Quote:

Originally Posted by malik22

You guys who have had experience with vista with SP1 and server 2008 do you still think server is faster for games even after vista sp1?

Windows XP SP3 v.3300
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows XP SP3 v.3300
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows XP SP3 v.3300
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207826609

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit support 8GB RAM
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1208252842
04-17-2008, 05:59 PM
Gen

people still debating which is faster? their the same kernel :shrug:
04-17-2008, 06:01 PM
jaredpace

A sloths faster than vista
04-17-2008, 06:06 PM
Warboy

Then why can't vista 32bit SP1 support 8gb of ram?
04-17-2008, 07:50 PM
hennyo

Server class windows OS has supported PAE for ALONG time while non server OS never has. Hence when 32bit windows server 2008 handles 8gbytes of ram and vista 32bit dosen't.
04-17-2008, 07:52 PM
tiro_uspsss

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaredpace

A sloths faster than vista

:rofl: :up:
04-17-2008, 11:02 PM
Jack

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gen

people still debating which is faster? their the same kernel :shrug:

Exactly. And as you can see in bakalu's post, the result differences are smaller than 1%. Hardly worth it.
04-18-2008, 12:04 AM
bakalu

Benchmark Gun Metal

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207967341

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207967341

Benchmark Serious Sam 2

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207967341

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.vn/attachment.ph...1&d=1207967341
04-18-2008, 04:20 AM
003

Could you include XP and XP x64 in these benchmarks?
04-18-2008, 01:40 PM
BigDov

I'm not seeing much of a reason to switch really....... :shrug:
04-18-2008, 05:05 PM
bakalu

Quote:

Originally Posted by 003

Could you include XP and XP x64 in these benchmarks?

Take a look post 239.

Benchmark Call of Juarez DirectX 10

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1207997836

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1207997836

Benchmark PT BOATS - Knights Of The Sea DirectX 10

Windows Vista Ultimate 32bit + hotfix
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1207997836

Windows Server 2008 Enterprise SP1 32bit
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1207997836
04-24-2008, 10:33 AM
Stanley Pain

Anyone thinking that 2k8 is going to be faster in 3D is kinda silly.

The major difference in terms of speed between a server OS and a non-server OS is going to be I/O operations. More specifically I find that 2k8 can handle a much bigger load across memory, cpu, harddrives and still remain responsive (and processing your data). With this comes some more stability, but I only have very anecdotal evidence.
04-24-2008, 09:11 PM
Ron 61

Thanks for your work bakalu. I use to have hope for vista but not anymore. Looks like my hopes for server 2008 have been dashed also. Long live Windows XP SP3.
04-25-2008, 03:06 AM
MuffinFlavored

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron 61

Thanks for your work bakalu. I use to have hope for vista but not anymore. Looks like my hopes for server 2008 have been dashed also. Long live Windows XP SP3.

After doing some testing myself, running around with the best Linux distributions you can find, and even running Mac OS X on my PC, Windows XP is the obvious choice.

I feel like I should make a blog about.

Kind of off-topic, but how do Media Center and Windows XP relate, performance wise?

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