thansk petra,my fren just order 3 sets last week and we just got it today
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thansk petra,my fren just order 3 sets last week and we just got it today
So can anyone report temp improvements?
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Originally Posted by IanY
FYI,
The D5 spec is wrong, I measured 166" or 13.8' in my own test with a custom top that lost max head. Alex also noted this in a really old forum post, and Laing's own documentation states it's closer to 14'.
I have no idea where this 11' number came from unless it's setting 4.or just a carry over of the D4...:shrug: I belive Alex mentioned they plan to run the D5 curve and update that some time here.
The DDC3.2 is still very very slightly better in real world flow rates, but no where near the differece of the older DDC2 model.
I've done two mounts each of the following:
stock
sealed
quad nozzle
3.5mm
Here are my preliminary results on a
Q6600 G0 @ 1.5V 3.6GHz (lapped - made a 0C difference on this CPU when it was done)
Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R
Tygon 1/2"
D-TEK highflow barbs
Swiftech MCP655 @ 5
Reservoir with custom A/C chiller to keep water temps constant
el cheapo type-K temp probe shown to be reasonably precise, but not accurate.
Water temps were held within 30.9-31.2C (I'm sure the probe reads at least 5C high). Temps were taken with a 1minute log of Core Temp (my water doesn't heat up, so I don't have to wait around like most people :p)
FuZion Stock 1: 33/34/39/42, 50/50/58/58
FuZion Stock 2: 33/34/39/42, 50/50/58/58
FuZion Sealed 1: 33/33/39/42, 49/49/58/58
FuZion Sealed 2: 33/33/38/40, 49/49/55/55
FuZion Quad 1: 33/33/39/40, 48/48/57/57
FuZion Quad 2: 33/33/38/40, 49/49/56/56
FuZion 3.5mm 1: 33/33/39/40, 50/50/57/57
FuZion 3.5mm 2: 33/34/39/40, 51/51/57/57
Then I substituted a Little Giant 2-MDQ-SC to see if it would make a difference how powerful the pump you're using with the 3.5mm nozzle is
FuZion 3.5mm 1: 33/33/38/40, 50/50/57/57
FuZion 3.5mm 2: 34/34/39/40, 52/52/57/57
I plan to do a DB-1 as well at some point, which should give us some idea how flow agnostic the FuZion is with the smallest nozzle.
Once I get my better equipment, then I'll get some more solid numbers, but people seem to be crying for preliminaries. It looks like this is going to take me a very long time with 5+ mounts per nozzle to establish any sort of trend.
One thing that occurs to me is that if I was using something better than Ceramique, I might see more of a difference. I'm thinking of switching to Shin-Etsu for my complete testing.
Very informal quick look with Shin-E on my chick's B3 Q6600 shows 2-3˚C improvement with the quad nozzle. No measureable change in water temp but it's a very under-loaded loop.
really looking forward for some results with quads...my nozzles are here and my system is waiting to be torn down...but I am going to do this only once and add a MIPS mosfet + NB swifty block to my loop.
I hope my AquaXtreme 50Z-DC12 PUMP will manage to keep up with my additions and that my double heatercore will manage to keep up with the added thermal load. (no gpu block in the loop.).
thanks Linus@ncix
I will be doing this today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Linus@ncix
I have Arctic Silver Premium Ceramique, and Arctic Silver 5 sitting right in front of me. ;)
Which one would be better to use between the D-TEK, and the Q6600?
I rate the ceramique marginly better.
Thanks for the input buddy!!
I can also confirm that the bowed Apogee's have slightly lower pressure drop in my testing. In fact a bowed Apogee GT has a tiny bit lower pressure drop than a flat vanilla Apogee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petra
Ah I gotta order some nozzles too.
Thanks Linus, even if this is just preliminary. This reinforce the idea that the quad nozzle did really help and I already ordered mine :)
Install picts: ;)
Can you see it in there?
The nozzle is oriented horizontally, where as my Arctic Silver Premium Ceramique line was vertically drawn on my Q6600. The O-ring thingey goes in with no problem. According to the AS Home page, you apply Ceramique to the D-Tek too, then wipe it back off with a lint free cloth, which I did do...
We of course leave the thin line of Ceramique in tact in the chip, before it gets smashed down by the block.
Does the mounting plate need to be turned a centain way on the D-Tec? Is mine OK as is?
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/910/pic017xr1.jpg
My build is progressing ...... :cool:
http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3314/pic019st4.jpg
Plate can go either way as long as it avoids contact with nearby components.
wont the orientation of the quad nozzle make a big difference? Like if you split the flow 90 degrees rotated the wrong way, results would be poor.
how about mx-2?Quote:
I rate the ceramique marginly better.
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1
That's why they include instructions and a diagram showing alignment relative to the socket.
Thanks for the reply Jedda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jedda
Yes it will, and says so in the included instructions.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikhsub1
We are diverting the water directly onto the 2 dual cores.
I had the AS info page up on How to apply Céramique
Intel Quad Core CPU W/Heatspreader, looking at the orentation of the line (page 5).
http://www.arcticsilver.com/pdf/appi..._quad_wcap.pdf
Our included instructions with the Nozzle kit has the line going the oppisite way.
I think I have it right, and hoped the pic might help others on their install too. ;)
But, yeha... Putting it the wrong way would probably cost you a few C.
I think if your mobo is orentated like mine when you mount it, just remember horizontal line on the nozzle, and vertical line for the AS goop is best. :up:
actually the included instructions show the orientation relative to the notches on the side of the CPU because the socket can be rotated 90 degrees in some cases iirc.
My instructions with the nozzle kit shows the same picture as the Arctic Silver document.
Yes, but on the AS link above, on page 5 it has the red line drawn onto each dual core, dividing them in half.
Our instructions have the line drawen between the 2 dual cores, never touching either one.
That means if you mount a Q6600, on a Maximus SE, in a TJ09 case, when all the smoke clears, AS gets drawen top to bottom on the chip, and the nozzle should have a horizontal orentation when you look at it in the inlet. ;)
If this is incorrect, dont hesitate to call it out! :D
i'll keep that in mind when i re-mount my blockQuote:
yup,
The instructions that came with the nozzles clearly outline the difference and how to install the quad nozzles correctly. Regardless of how you mount the block, the nozzles (or split the divides the nozzle) should sit parallel with the two notches on the left of the CPU. So if you were going to mount the block so the inlet/outlet sat a certain way, you'd make sure the nozzle was orientated so it sat parallel with the notches by spinning it around before closing it up.
Yeah see my nozzles came without any paperwork - but in my testing some blocks matter (apogee GT specifically) which was the block is oriented on single die.
I see...Quote:
Originally Posted by mcoffey
Well my triangle is in the lower right corner, and the dot is in the lower left. My - on the nozzle is running parallel with them.
I believe I am golden. :up: