Please remember that DAAMIT has every reason to make their upcoming products look like crap (hint: 8800U, 8600GTX, etc). I'm pretty convinced that the retail products will perform a lot better.
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Please remember that DAAMIT has every reason to make their upcoming products look like crap (hint: 8800U, 8600GTX, etc). I'm pretty convinced that the retail products will perform a lot better.
No, because what you suggest makes it no different from what any user with ATI tool, ATI Tray, Rivatuner, etc can do on their own. Also, any user can alter the bios to change the clock speed. This alone validates my point in this example. Just because a vendor finds a good OC doesn't make it a new stock clock speed. It only makes it the new over clocked speed. There is no reason to re-invent over clocking into something that it is not. Or else we repeat what we should have learned from the past .Quote:
Originally Posted by DilTech
well, at least u can fold on it.
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by grimREEFER
Well, soon we will find out the truth. If it holds then dailytech will be in my favorites...if not, I will not visit that site again.:slapass:
i hope there is a HD2950 or 8900GTX thats single card (not like 7950 GX2) .... or if nv do get 9800 out b4 end of this year ill get that , too...
It seems like DT numbers are a bit off
Link:Quote:
Bum_JCRules wrote:
While I am required to follow the NDA, the stuff up on Daily Tech today is almost worthless. Yes Anandtech was present in Tunisia (signing Non-disclosure agreements like the Inquirer), why they are posting this stuff is beyond me because their numbers are off. They must be only using the XP drivers and OS because the numbers in CF vs the GTX are very much different. So until I can officially comment on the architecture and the performance.. hold all of this as useless until the rest of the world writes about it.
http://forumz.tomshardware.com/hardw...derasc-75.html
Also Kristopher Kubicki in his blog mentions new drivers and CF setup:
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I was curious about the lack of HDMI as well, though one partner told me on the XT the only HDMI capabilities would be via a dongle (so no sound obviously).
Someone "reached out and touched us" today and gave us 2 Radeon XT cards for use in Crossfire and a different driver (350MB ?!?!). Expect benchmarks this week.
http://www.dailytech.com/DailyTech+D...rticle7079.htm
Lets wait and see ;)
Hector Ruiz wouldn't allow a catastrophe of that magnitude...Dave Orton would...but Hector wouldn't...you can't even think about fighting a multi-billion dollar monopoly if you take out products 8 months later only to be inferior to the competitor.
The $399 HD 2900 XT will kick the 8800's behind all the way from Tunisia to Santa Clara.
Perkam
Exactly lol, to be honest I think you should do teh same as me and wait a month or 2 after it's released to ensure a good sample. I do not, and can not, deal with another poor overclocker. My CPU already pisses me off because of that fact, it's one of the first ones as well typically...Quote:
Originally Posted by cantankerous
Let's hope so...Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Hector wouldn't allow a catastrophe of that magnitude? LOL Hector can't even avoid creating a catastrophe of that magnitude all by himself. Bigger in fact, because that exactly what the ATI acquisition has turned into. He's now mortgaged AMD's future under a pile of debt the likes of which AMD has never faced before. As for his ideas about how to fight a multi-billion dollar monopoly, did you listen to AMD's last conference call and all of Hector's blathering about going "asset-light"? Asset light and debt heavy? Clueless and laughable if he thinks AMD is going to be able to take on Intel like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
Hector is an idiot who's only successes were 100% the result of the efforts of his predecessor Jerry Sanders. The sooner AMD gets rid of him, the better off AMD will be.
It isn't a matter of allowing or not, if the engineers can't get results from the path they've taken and cannot find a better one its not directly the CEOs fault. There are fewer industries more tedious, and even those in far more straightforward lines of business blatantly screw up with end products, even while under great pressure to compete.
Nvidia had far less to excuse itself for the NV30 line than ATI has if the R600 doesnt turn out great, and that didn't stop the FX from happening.
Shouldn't it have higher performance scores in XP, considering how Vista is still far from gaming-ready? If they were benching XP 8800 against Vista 2900 then that statement might make more sense.Quote:
They must be only using the XP drivers and OS because the numbers in CF vs the GTX are very much different.
Also...CF numbers are different against the GTX? Double card is different against a single card, really?
Hector has just been milking AMD. All he wants is money for himself. Did you check his wage? 12million last year. Try check what others earn.Quote:
Originally Posted by perkam
To compare ATI made a 32million$ profit in 2005 I think. Or take 10million and hire 100 research people.
It was. The direction they took was deliberate and completely at the feet of management. They pointificated about their vision over a long period of time in many interviews and conferences. "not about core anymore" being a phrase Hector would repeatedly say and Meyer parroted. It was going to be about platform and integrated video, and they described how core improvements, clock rate, and number of cores, ie cpu performance, wasn't important anymore. The only problem was they were wrong. Given c2d as an option, people bought those instead of "good enough"/"let them eat cake" AMD chips, which resulted in their losses. Taking heed of reality slapping them in the face, they've changed course somewhat, which has resulted in more improvements(claims of) in the k10.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dainas
Well in this case it was the CEOs fault originally.
Was just saying that CEOs cannot simply steer a company from destruction if their entire engineering are putting their all into a ground up new design and it isn't measuring up to the competition. You can't order someone to make something better if they honestly don't know how to with the given resources.
http://r800.blogspot.com/
Said to be test slides from AMD/ATI. XT vs GTS.
Oh :banana::banana::banana::banana: that is some serious scaling gold :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by korda
That reminds me so much of level505...Quote:
Originally Posted by korda
This scaling is more than amazing!!
If this is true then :woot: and my previous post makes it very probably it is!!
I wonder how HD2900XT CF will compete with nV8800GTX SLI then ...
PS. Now I know why 8800GTX is faster in most todays games ...
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16 texture units of ATI/AMD R600 versus 32 texture units of nVidia G80 GTX makes a difference.
well if those scaling numbers are correct than the 2900XT in CF will walk all over Quad 8800GTX SLiQuote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
http://bp2.blogger.com/_BabjUDZIqPw/...c/s400/004.jpg
This is going for my desktop wallpaper.
I concur, it looks like more :bs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
It's nothing but a ATI/AMD PR mouthpiece fanboy piece of crap blog.
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y11...o/gpun2076.jpg
2D clocks are 507/514, and yet it idles at 68 degrees C. Lets hope they took that pic in Africa. :)
Stock coolers are for nubs.
Comparing an enthusiast card to a mainstream-end one. Yeah, that doesn't look suspicious at all. :slap: