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Me not, that make approximately 2 years that OPB fake and nobody say nothing, considering it is made pass for an excellent optimizer which is absolutely not :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoxxy
Lowered the frequency to obtain a good optimization or to benefit from the bugs of superpi to make the best score must be to sanction and for a very long time :slapass:
There is an old expression that "better a 1000 guilty men go free than one innocent man be convicted."
I'd suggest that unless there is real proof that these 2 gentleman did somthing not kosher it is very unfair to cast aspersions on their names.
No, I don't know either one other than to say hello to coolater one time.
I would say this for anyone.
i thought that ends with FULL STOP :) hehQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoxxy
i just msn with OPB, his CPU bought it from Coolaler, that is why the clock speed are the same. it has original going to sell to hipro5.
just passing message
btw he still can't connect to XS
can he explain to you what is going on and you take a screenshot of IM(don't forget about verification of your screencapture :p:)Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
that would do or just email FUGGER direct and that's it :)
we just talk like few words, nothing he wants to sayQuote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Sometimes...you say more than enough when you say nothing at allQuote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
Please also ask him to give a TRUE evidence on these scores, I wait since 1 year ....Quote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...t=85069&page=3
well im torn apart as engineer student i cant look apart from the statistics, as modest bencher that i am (the greatest thing i could manage was top 10 in the 6600gt class at the orb ) i know there are some tweaks and strange results you cant duplicate not bugged but strange as someone that always was amazed and always asked for help to OPB i dont want to believe he is cheating, he is a great guy as s7e9h3n that is MIA coolaler i dont know him....
i see the what vapor did great job recolecting everything and posting it we need an explanation or maybe he can show to another XIP how the hell he did that i still believe he did it he is a great ocer and no one can doubt about that but i cant give my back to what i study stadistics are for real my friends
what does he think of being accused of cheating....does it bother him or notQuote:
Originally Posted by guess2098
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Originally Posted by Vapor
It's no marketing slogan, I had contact and was shown the method used in trust.
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Originally Posted by dinos22
No he's not bothered by it at all, he's not surprised either..
He showed me how to tweak the system, and it took a long time and a lot of time for hime to figure it out, so he did not share it openly. I was not asked to be his witness here. But as he showed me his methods, I thought it was the least I could do for him..
regads
Raja
Well I've got 15 Ferrari's, and a SU-47 in my garage.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
My friend MrNobody's been in my garage twice :P
You're just making it worse with all this "passive" defending out of nowhere.
Lame excuses as "he can't log in", "I've seen the tweak", "he told me" are quite inacceptable with the current situation.
There's only one solution to this "issue".
Come forward, describe the tweaks used in that run, and let some people re-do that run.
It's that simple.
Being a "record-man" is nothing, researching, performance/tweak testing, and knowledge sharing is definately something.
just to show something, we at xs have abnormally DC team and im used to the cheat word as MM said let them prove they are not cheating.... as we in wcg are not cheating even with only 200 members are making more points that 99% of the teams
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Originally Posted by BenchZowner
well you ain't getting the tweak thru political hoo-haa.
I don't belong to either benching team, so I have nothing to gain really.
How else can I put it when I don't have the permission to share the tweak?
So I just stand by while people call him a cheat, and I know he's not?
hmmmmmm well we ALL take a long time to learn about new hardware and to tweak it well but we all share this stuff here. Even OPB himself claims he's an open book unless something changedQuote:
Originally Posted by raju
this SHOULD bother him if he's got any respect for anyone at XS as there are a lot of long faces here waiting to hear a word. :nono:
are you passing on his messages or just assuming he would think that?
it's your word against othersQuote:
Originally Posted by raju
there are no numbers here to back up what you are saying.............if you have the knowledge you can REPLICATE that at lower clocks and we can analyse the data to confirm this without him revealing his tweak BUT really common now with so much uproar is it really worth the trouble
I have contacted him, but he's in the fire isn't he, it was his work and took him a long time to figure and he's been called out by everyone to reveal the work, or people assume he's a cheat.
He did not ask me to act witness or pass messages. I did it out of respect for the man.
I have asked him if he wants me to post something on his behalf, that's his call really, I don't mind either way. THEre's nothing more I can do, as the only way this witch hunt will be stopped is if he reveals all his work. He is always open about his ram settings, the other tweaks are his ip, and seeing as this benching thing is real big and competitve it makes it hard just to spill the facts to every other bencher in competition.
Unless OPB asks me it'll be the last repsonse from me in this thread.
Sorry state of affairs really and a real catch 22.
I'm not after the tweak, just looking for the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Nothing to gain, and nothing to lose either.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
You've already tried to convince us more than once.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Posts with no clues, just telling people that you know him, and he told you that & this, is pointless and will get you ( him actually ) going nowhere.
You know it, and he knows it.
It's 2006, it's a "cruel" world out there, full of lies & un-natural stuff happening, nonetheless everybody can get his friends ( being 1, 2, or 50 ) to speak out for him.
That's not working anymore, people can't trust others that easily anymore.
Had enough already, wake me up when something serious gets posted :rolleyes:
OPB wanted me to post this for him. Unmolested XP SP2. Not many know that this chipset can do this speed at these timings. OPB is still having technical problems with the board atm. He also challenges people to beat his Geforce 8800GTX single card scores.. Do not get angry with me, this is what he wanted me to do.
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OPB is at the point where he doesnt want to share how he completed the super pi tweaks to gain the world record. He says if anyone wants to find out the super pi tweaks they need to track down S7e9h3n
12.734 is a average, maybe slightly above average score for 4 GHz flat. Performance product of 50930. I don't see anything wrong with either of those times.Quote:
Originally Posted by JasonDTM
this is very sad to see.
many things in this thread are sad to see.
its sad to see World Records needing to be questioned.
its sad to see blind "fanboy" reactions from fellow Benchers.
its sad to see "hater" reactions from fellow Benchers too.
as much as i admire the names of those in question, they are only names to me.
i know nothing of their honer or personalties, so it is impossible for me to "judge" them.
i can "judge" the graphs that have been made... assuming the input was correct,
i can not see how these #'s cant be questioned, anything "that far off the chart" merits looking into.
there are only two ways this situation can turn out .... tweak or cheat
in many ways i hope the "Ultimate Pi 1M Tweak" has been discovered.
if that is the case there will be a lot of apologizing to do,
but if no tweak exists, there should be action also.
So why is the mobo info whited out? Why 680i when he did 8.9s on 975? How does that even relate to proving his times legit?
Yeah, why is the mobo blanked out? I mean it's obviously 680i based on his mentioning LinkBoost, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
and HT voltage... clear give away its a 680i board or an nvidia board at the leastQuote:
Originally Posted by Omastar