Intel Xeon 3060 First result! 56K soon to be DEATH!

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12-05-2006, 04:26 AM
shimmishim

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Originally Posted by Ron 61

@ shimmishim Thanks for the report, I hope she primes all night for you. What batch number did you get L628B167, L628B211 or something different?

L628B211

9 hours later and...

http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtrem...423.9hours.jpg

pretty much on par with my e6700es so i guess that means my 6700 gets sold now! :)
12-05-2006, 05:32 AM
RacerX

shimmishim, first congrats at 9hrs+ Orthos. 2nd try running blend instead and see if your NB can handle those speeds.

Also whats cooling your cpu? Those temps are actually quite good for a B stepping with that much voltage going thru. My L628B167 can easily do 423x9 but with only 1.43v 12hrs+ Orthos stable but my temps get up in the mid 70's even with watercooling. Strange less voltage but higher temps compared to yours.
12-05-2006, 05:38 AM
shimmishim

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerX

shimmishim, first congrats at 9hrs+ Orthos. 2nd try running blend instead and see if your NB can handle those speeds.

Also whats cooling your cpu? Those temps are actually quite good for a B stepping with that much voltage going thru. My L628B167 can easily do 423x9 but with only 1.43v 12hrs+ Orthos stable but my temps get up in the mid 70's even with watercooling. Strange less voltage but higher temps compared to yours.

wow!!! 9x423 @ 1.43v... amazing...

i'm on watercooling with a pa120.2 and swiftech storm v2.

i'll give orthos blend a try but i haven't been able to no matter what i try...
12-05-2006, 05:58 AM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

wow!!! 9x423 @ 1.43v... amazing...

i'm on watercooling with a pa120.2 and swiftech storm v2.

i'll give orthos blend a try but i haven't been able to no matter what i try...

Now I see its your rad, need to dump my heatcore right away. Thanks now I'm totally convinced my heatercore is killing me.

Try 1.45v on yours you might be surprised.:toast:
12-05-2006, 07:58 AM
MrDeeds

Quote:

Originally Posted by RacerX

Try 1.45v on yours you might be surprised.:toast:

I was going to suggest that also, the only difference between being small ffts stable and blend stable on the aw9d-max for me was a bump in cpu voltage.
12-05-2006, 08:04 AM
shimmishim

i'm already at 1.55 bios. should i try 1.6? cuz 1.45 would be less :)
12-05-2006, 08:13 AM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

i'm already at 1.55 bios. should i try 1.6? cuz 1.45 would be less :)

I see your Abit undervolts compared to my Asus which overvolts. I have 1.4v set in bios and measured on board during idle is 1.45, underload I measure 1.43-1.44v.

I say try 1.5v for cpu and then run blend. I think blend will fail if your don't have enough MCH voltage. Example I can run small ffts at 423fsb with 1.6v mch but blend fails within seconds, 1.7v is what I need to make it stable.
12-05-2006, 03:04 PM
shimmishim

19 hours of small fft :)

http://www.johnshim.com/forums/xtrem...23.19hours.jpg
12-05-2006, 03:32 PM
Supertim0r

nice cpu :)

what about Large FTTs priority 9 ? ;)
12-05-2006, 03:52 PM
shimmishim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supertim0r

nice cpu :)

what about Large FTTs priority 9 ? ;)

hmm.... i can give large fft a try tonight priority 9. :)
12-05-2006, 05:54 PM
Ron 61

Real nice shimmishim, I ordered my L628B211 today from the folks in Gahanna but it will be January before I can put some juice to it as I am waiting on DFI 680i. Has anybody lapped the IHS on any of these xeons?
12-05-2006, 06:07 PM
NightRaven

anyway guys just to share more air cooled results..

20 hours 3510mhz 1.5V orthos stresscpu gromac core..

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/307...0hrgromdu4.jpg

small fft didnt do very well on tt volts needed 1.55V.. so now running it.. 1.5V failed after 2 hours plus. rebooted..

just for those thinking of sticking to air :)
12-05-2006, 06:08 PM
shimmishim

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ron 61

Real nice shimmishim, I ordered my L628B211 today from the folks in Gahanna but it will be January before I can put some juice to it as I am waiting on DFI 680i. Has anybody lapped the IHS on any of these xeons?

the IHS is flat... compared to the 6700es i had.

my waterblock touches the whole ihs so no need to lap unless you REALLY want to :)
12-05-2006, 06:14 PM
shimmishim

okay... now things get INTERESTING...

so i decided to give dual superpi 32M a try at 423... and guess what? can't run it...

tried all voltage combinations then decided... hey, let's drop vcore from 1.55 to 1.45 and guess what?

superpi32M decides to finish running... try small fft... guess what? ERROR!

so yeah... 423x9 stable with 1.55 vcore orthos small fft and 423x9 with 1.45 vcore dual superpi 32M and neither stable at each other's vcore setting... hehehe...

any ideas? :)
12-05-2006, 06:30 PM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

okay... now things get INTERESTING...

so i decided to give dual superpi 32M a try at 423... and guess what? can't run it...

tried all voltage combinations then decided... hey, let's drop vcore from 1.55 to 1.45 and guess what?

superpi32M decides to finish running... try small fft... guess what? ERROR!

so yeah... 423x9 stable with 1.55 vcore orthos small fft and 423x9 with 1.45 vcore dual superpi 32M and neither stable at each other's vcore setting... hehehe...

any ideas? :)

Sounds like you need more mch voltage to your NB at 423. Like I said run blend at priority 9 and see what you can come up with. Here's the start of a new run don't know if it will make it thru the night as my room temp is 3-4c higher than the last time I made a 12hr run.

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/XeonOrthos.JPG
12-05-2006, 06:43 PM
shimmishim

my mch was maxed out at 2.0

i upped my vfsb to 1.49 and it works :) woot!
12-05-2006, 06:51 PM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by shimmishim

my mch was maxed out at 2.0

i upped my vfsb to 1.49 and it works :) woot!

Sounds like to me you need a new board, 2.0v mch is much for only 423 in return. What are you cooling your NB with? Maybe lowering it and increasing vfsb will give you better stability.

Have you tried blend yet?
12-05-2006, 07:01 PM
shimmishim

i'll lower my vmch to see what happens.

and no, i can't run blend yet... sigh... this board hates blend... i have yet to see people run on blend above 400+ on this board except for hipro and one other person...

this board just hates blend... it's a simple fact :(
12-05-2006, 07:06 PM
Ender17

so what are my chances of 3.6GHz with air cooling on D975XBX2?
12-05-2006, 11:05 PM
Rysing_Phoenix

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Originally Posted by Ender17

so what are my chances of 3.6GHz with air cooling on D975XBX2?

I'd like to know that too, exact same thoughts. :D I have just been scared away from the 680i boards and the Bad Axe 2 seems like it might be the best board right now.

And given the 3.6ish goal on air...what do you guys recommend in terms of memory? Would something like
this work, or some decent PC2-6400 in the low $200 range, since all I need is about 400FSB? I'm not looking for anything extreme, and don't need to squeeze every ounce of performance from the RAM, so no need for 3-3-3-X timing since AFAIK that is really only good for bench numbers. Or should I lay down the cash and get on the NewEgg Crucial Ballistix DDR2 1000 deal?

Thanks for the help!
12-05-2006, 11:34 PM
RLM

shimmishim,

Have been interested in your results. I know FTPChris has had joy with the AW9D, but I'm guessing that it's the motherboard or/and the memory holding the cpu back. Certainly RacerX's results give me a bit of hope that, that's the case.

Unfortunately I didn't get to test my P5W DH out properly, due to memory compatibility and being limited to 365 FSB. What I did notice though, is that the cpu temps were about 5c-10c lower on the Asus than the aw9D.

Albeit I did run blend successfully at 405 on the aw9d, when actually using it for 3d rendering, I found anything over 400 to be unstable. Sometimes renders at 405 were taking longer than renders at 395. Bascially inconsistent. and using the renderer Frpime, the system would lock up on occasions. Not quite right.

I think my next changes will include an Asus P5B deluxe, some GSkill HZ's and new water cooling.

RLM
12-06-2006, 12:24 AM
ErikaeanLogic

ok, n00b question:

why are you guys focusing on the "blend" Orthos test? what does passing/failing the blend test signify if you can pass many hours of small fft's?
12-06-2006, 12:33 AM
GrimReaper

wow :eek: looks like a killer CPU :D anyone tried the temps with TAT?

RacerX
seems its fully stable :D what are the temperatures like ?

Now I am seriously considering to get one of these
12-06-2006, 01:39 AM
fhpchris

Quote:

Originally Posted by RLM

shimmishim,

Have been interested in your results. I know FTPChris has had joy with the AW9D, but I'm guessing that it's the motherboard or/and the memory holding the cpu back. Certainly RacerX's results give me a bit of hope that, that's the case.

Unfortunately I didn't get to test my P5W DH out properly, due to memory compatibility and being limited to 365 FSB. What I did notice though, is that the cpu temps were about 5c-10c lower on the Asus than the aw9D.

Albeit I did run blend successfully at 405 on the aw9d, when actually using it for 3d rendering, I found anything over 400 to be unstable. Sometimes renders at 405 were taking longer than renders at 395. Bascially inconsistent. and using the renderer Frpime, the system would lock up on occasions. Not quite right.

I think my next changes will include an Asus P5B deluxe, some GSkill HZ's and new water cooling.

RLM

I loved the AW9D until I started getting cpus that needed more than ~435fsb prime stable! What a stupid problem to have!

I hate to get another board, but I need ~480fsb ish stable on a 9 multi and I do not see any 975 boards pulling that off :(
12-06-2006, 01:59 AM
RacerX

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrimReaper

wow :eek: looks like a killer CPU :D anyone tried the temps with TAT?

RacerX
seems its fully stable :D what are the temperatures like ?

Now I am seriously considering to get one of these

Temps with TAT show 1-2c less than AI Booster underload and maybe soon we can call this completely stable.:clap:

http://home.comcast.net/~phippy1/XeonOrthos2.JPG

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