here is my validation for my setup. It is not OCCT at all, but i can play games for 7 hours straight with no problems. Should i try for higher anyways?
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=495472
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here is my validation for my setup. It is not OCCT at all, but i can play games for 7 hours straight with no problems. Should i try for higher anyways?
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=495472
all depends on what you want. if you want 24/7 comfortability, i'd keep trying to get occt stable before trying to push on.Quote:
Originally Posted by fizur2002
im running 1.5v on my core and OCCT isnt stable. Anything else i should look at as far as that is concerned?
whats your temps????Quote:
Originally Posted by fizur2002
when running OCCT i top out around 55c, but i idle around 40c and gaming i get about 45-47c
Well my 940 is a turd... Can't even run cinebench at 3.7 with 1.5V and a TRUE.
what are you temperatures ?Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
that program closes for no reason on my clocks even when they're stable.
I need 1.4875 volts for 3.750 and 1.360 for 2.8ghz nb. temps hit 58C on my sunbeam CCF with an ultra kaze 3,000 running at 1,900 rpm.
Like 52C load. Even 3.6ghz won't run 3dmark now. I can't run 2.2ghz NB at 3.6 either.
phenom 945BE ES
FACOC AC 0825FPM
4220.32 MHz (228.13 * 18.5)
1.65v
NB@2964
2281mhz
1216mhz 6-5-6-16 2.1v
2x2GB crucial red PC6400 CL4
unganged mem
Asus Crosshair II formula NV780a
water
windows 7 32bit and XP 32b
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/491891.png
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=491891
Well I have been testing different speeds and the vcore that is required to be stable at that point. During my testing I have come accross something strange that I would like someone else with the same MB to verify if possible. If I set vcore to auto in the bios an overclock through AOD it takes 1.504 vcore for 3800MHz to be stable (multi overclocking only at this point). If I set the vcore manually in bios it takes 1.52 vcore for 3800MHz to be stable. Below are my screens to show what I am talking about. For my stability testing I used Intel Burntest set to run ten times which has consistently shown to error out or crash in less than 10.
Hmm, I never tried auto, I have same board and bios. I'll give it a checking...did you find it consistant?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben_Brown
Yes is was consistent at every speed. Less in AOD and more in BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
it worked fo me also Charge....Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/...z1157914d9.jpg
Indoor temp 25c, crapy Nh-c12p with stock fan.(The 1.456v in cpuz is the real vcore)
Phenom 2 is... strange to say the least. Earlier no NB voltage combo would get me stable at 2400mhz NB, now I'm at 2600mhz at "auto" aka 1.15VNB. Also even 1.5Vcore couldn't get me stable at 3.8ghz, now I'm going along fine at 1.45V. Temps are the same. BIOS settings are the same. I literally changed nothing.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...N/38003d06.jpg
Well, didn't had time to go for 2h Prime, so.. I'll do that later.
:D
CPU: AMD Phenom II 920
Stepping: CACVC AC 0849BPDW
Freq: 3650 MHz
Multiplier: 13x
HTT: 281 MHz
HTT Multiplier: 9x
NB/L3: 2529 MHz
CPU Vcore: ~1,50
Cooling: TRUE
Temp(idle/load): 40/60
RAM: 2x2 GB A-Data Extreme Vitesta+ 1125 MHz, unganged
1T/2T: 2T
Vmem: 2.30
Timings: 5-6-6-16
Motherboard: Asus M3A79-T Deluxe
http://pici.se/thumbs/t_hpFGFLCte.gif
+1 on that thing :), i think Phenom II need some drive in time :)Quote:
Originally Posted by afireinside
Aww come on lastviking You know you can squeak out a little faster run than that at that speed :D crappy OCZ vindicator
http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/performance1.jpg
Hmm.. haven't looked in this thread in a while.. I see there is a "Suicide" chart.. I will try to get some scores in there ;) Got some LN2 in the garage that needs to be used !! :D
Ton
CPU Model Used - Phenom 940BE
CPU Full Stepping - CACVC AC 0850BPEW
CPU Frequency - 3712mhz
CPU Vcore - 1.5V
NB Frequency - 2475mhz
HT Link Frequency - 1800mhz
Memory Frequency - 450mhz (ddr900) 5-5-5-15
Memory Configuration - 2x2GB
Memory Ganged/Unganged - unganged
Mainboard Model - ASUS M4A79
Cooling Type - AIR (TRUE + Antec Tricool fan "low")
Windows Version - Vista X64 SP1
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...2/3712OCCT.jpg
Sry tweaking windows for Super pi1m is not my best thing :) , i think i need to cheat with abit higher clocks... still on air but abit colder air..2bad i need to sleep now work tommorow...i think i need to make a own thread for my scores one air(2 bad its only super p1m runes and one sucide screen)... i can give you a hint....Nb is only on 3045mhz when i´m runing super pi1m ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Sweet, lets see what ya got..:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by TiTON
what is the safest max voltage you can use on the Ph2?
it's on this thread somewhere 1.475 =50 < something.Quote:
Originally Posted by fizur2002
I did a short toutre test at 1.700 voltsthe chip throttles it self at 72C
from my temp log.
19:39:07,70°,,,55°,71°,100%,3010.15 MHz,
19:39:17,71°,,,55°,71°,100%,3010.15 MHz,
19:39:27,71°,,,55°,71°,100%,802.71 MHz, < 800mhz
My old phenom 9850 sure didn't throttle it would go until it locked up :hehe: (78C)
im running mine stable 3.7Ghz @ 1.525v on high end air. Would that voltage be too much for a 24/7 machine?
Dude so simple, open PI,open taskmanager, set PI to realtime priority, kill explorer.exe Run PI, ctrl,alt delete taskmanager back, click on file, new task type in explorer.exe...........Quote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
Run PI 1m twice, the second time is almost always faster ;) Only tweak I used, and you were at 3000NB that score is bad..
Don't forget to set the affinity to a single core.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
damn if I would have done that I would have broke into the 15's:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben_Brown
This is what it took for me to get into the 15 sec range:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...9&d=1232727016
Nice job, I haven't broke out of the 16's yet :p:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben_Brown
So I got bored today, decided to nix my vista install because I never used it with my windows 7 beta, so I now have windows 7 x64 running. I did the intel burn test with 4ghz/2.75ghz and it passed 10 times with 1024mb memory. It wouldn't pass with 3ghz nb so I had to change that. My vapo's temp sensor got stuck so I need to fix that right now and then I'll get working on higher speeds.
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=496547
Well its a start. :)
preferably your strongest core ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben_Brown
Here was my update,
Verify link http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/494825.png
specs: Phenom II x4 940 (CACVC AC 0850BPMW)
M3A79-T DLX
H20 220 Apogee Kit
2x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066mhz
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...4.2ghzPi1M.JPG
The low NB / HT frequency hurt your score quite a bit. I'm still stuck at 3.6GHz though, so you're way ahead of me!
I was not on 3045NB on the score i have been showing here....that one was 2400NB.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Ahh Ok try that tweak then :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
Well, you're all talking about SuperPi so I've decided to give it a shot!
Here is my attempt to get best Pi 1M time on AIR. Ambient ~20C, not fully tweaked.
Attachment 93845
:rolleyes: so far it is best AIR Phenom II time on HWBot :p: I wonder for how long ;)
Sry i´m back from work now ;)... hmmm lets go to HWBot page :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightman
REMINDER: If you want added to the list, you need to PM me pointing to your post or I probably won't notice. I haven't had any submission in a few days now.
I cheated, no tweaks, cpu not optimized, horrible ram and timings, lots of other programs open and running :D
http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/DI12.jpg
Grrr DI? or SS? still low/slow NB clocks ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Yah DI,First time just playing not optimiing. If you compare these 2 the above can probably shave another second off. The intersting part is if i can get it down to 14.18 that puts it 2 secs away from my best intel run at 4.2g @ 12.18, the gap gets less and less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/air1.jpg
http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/performance1.jpg
C'mon, more 1M results, I need them for my research :D
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...an-/phenom.png
woa so it shows efficiency higher with lower NB clocks :shocked: A lot of my scores are bogus however mass, they have programs in back ground, not optimized....Not to mention MY os is held together with rubber bands, paperclips and chewing gum, so bad that I'm reinstalling now :D that 4.3 validation on air is a bugger.Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
I know that the scores are not comparable one-on-one, but that doesn't matter. I'm only looking for general trends at the moment; in the near future I'll be doing my own scaling tests and see how my results stack up against the correlations I've found using all the data I have already.
(tests will be ~~ http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getarticle&articID=895)
My bad, I will PM you. Thanks, I must have missed when you said that.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle
Then stick this on there for me too. Not the best, but is my best lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...00NB800ram.JPG
Thanks.
I don't actually need all the best scores, just ... scores. The whole purpose of collecting results and not starting a thread requesting them is so that I could monitor the trends without having the effect of people trying to get higher on the efficiency ranking :D
That's the reason why i wrote "not much tweaked" at hwbot-description, but you don't care. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by massman
slowly working my way up.
http://www.abload.de/thumb/prime9tty.jpg
3720MHz@1.536v in cpu-z although it´s set to 1.4875v in bios. m3a79-t overvolts like crazy :eek:
cpu-z jumps between 1.52 and 1.536v
2640MHz NB
480MHz RAM
Here is my first try, it would be nice if I could upload more than a 200kb file :shrug:
Cpuz
Thought I would do a OCCT stable test. Might not have needed some much V's but just thought I'd start there. Anyone know where the lil graph image that pops up is stored by default? I closed it and can't find it.
Edit: I found it, I am dumb.
*Phenom II x4 940 (CACVC AC 0850BPMW) @ 3.913/ 1800HT/ 1800NB/ 533 (1066)
*M3A79-T
*H20 220 Apogee Kit
*2x 2GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066mhz
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...17h30-CPU4.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...17h30-CPU1.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...17h30-CPU2.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...17h30-CPU3.JPG
http://3800z24.info/Phenom/Deneb/XP3...cct_stable.JPG
I got some bad news....I REALY HATE Heatpipes :( , the work very very bad if the gets to cold. -20c did make them get hot after sometime so i could not bench and maek more scores with 3dmark and more.
Mainboard and cpu with coler gets to window with -20c outdoor temp... temps looks fine in bios +10c on core...geting in to windows around +20c core temp geting lower aftersome idling +16c, crash @ 4.3ghz super pi1m rebooting going into bios give some more vcore not much still lower than 1.63v..board booting and the crash before load into windows....and then no post.. reseting bios geting into bios temp is 50c?! with stock voltage... loading my 24/7 settings and save and repost and going into bios temps geting 50c+ on core...grrrr cant they make and good coler without the stupid heatpipes :(
This is screens from yesterday outdoor temp was about -9c that worked fine. I´m giving up max clocks now and waiting for my True Black so a can make a desents 3Dmark2006 runs.
4466mhz = windows looked and i took picture with Ixus.
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/446617ba6fc07.jpg
http://www.bandwidth.se/imgs/nouser/4263mhz8e3bdda8.jpg
Here my highest 920 OC: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=496963 i only need to figure out how to get it bench stable. This validation was done with 1.55v.
Use IMAGEBAM to host your pics - http://www.imagebam.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Raiderman
Then post the thumbnails and people can click to see your full screenshot.
It free to use, needs no registration and doesn't fire gummo adverts at you like IMAGESHAT, sorry IMAGESHACK does :)
IMAGESHAT LOL good one.
there was a time that i would use nothing but imageshack, it was my google for image hosting, now i wont touch it with a bargepole, perfect example of how you can wreck a site with greed.Quote:
Originally Posted by KELL5
thanks for the link :up:
I was exactly the same bud, couldn't agree with you more.Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
No worries :)
@Lastviking
Nice Pi score on AIR :clap:
You beat me so quick!
Now I need to do most of 0C temperature outside and try to reclaim it back ...
You can add my name to the suicide group :) ......prime session comming soon
CPU - 940 BE
Stepping - 0849DPAW
CPU frequency - 4200MHz
CPU Vcore - 1,57
NB Frequency - 2043MHz
HT Link Frequency - 2043MHz
Memory Frequency - 908MHz
Memory Configuration - 2x2GB Ganged
Mainboard Model - DFI DK 790FXB-M2RSH
Cooling Type - Water cooling (cold water)
Windows Version - Vista32
CPU-Z to back it up - http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=484757
I see people post their SPi times here as well, here is my, not as quick as Lastviking, but close enought
Looks like everyone likes running superpi...........Maybe we should set up a list so we can post our scores. I mean everyone is throwing them in anyway and its one of the stronger reasons to push your cpu in this thread.......for a faster result right? Its especially useful with suicide runs......no holds barred.
I use it cause it is nice for seeing how your tweeks are improving. It also is good for showing that some screen shots are more then just suicide and the CPU is actaully also able to run an app;). Not that is takes a lot to run PI, but still.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Likewise Alot of people I am watching can't beat a time, so they up the clocks to beat someone else, that tosses the whole proportion out the window, a good thread to see performance optimizations would be a like a 3.6g challenge to see who can get the lowest when limited to a specific clock speed, Otherwise I will just go ln2 and mop the floor :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I like 32m, that eliminates suiciders from the mix ;) I think I also hold one of the best times or the best on air so far. This was with shoddy D9 as well, Shoddy as in it died the next day, now i know why the timings weren't that great.
http://members.cox.net/nfridenti/performance2.jpg
well I like it its fun to run and relatively quickQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
no ln2 allowed.........water and air only......ln2 is extreme thats what the extreme overclocking section is for or even extreme benchmarking or extreme cooling:p: LN2 people like to come to the regular section when they cant hang with the -260c crowd :rofl::ROTF::D.........they dont have anyone to show off to except people on water and air lolQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Suicide run I don't think I've posted, this was 3dmark stable as well.
940 BE cacvc ac 0850bpdw
Vapochill
http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4152/43pilk3.jpg
No you can't see my crappy ram timings :shakes:
Heh yah I can't hang with the -260 crowd my pots horrible :ROTF: that was air btw, 4.9 under DI is possible ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
you know Im just messin with ya:DQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Uhmm interesting to see that all high oc's come from motherboards that are not from DFi :S. Looks like a bug ? Or whats going on ?
-260c with LN2:confused:?Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
You must have some extreme LN2 :p:
I'm sure if someone gets -260c with LN2 then even the EXTREME LN2 team would be impressed :)
Hmmm i´m using Dfi but dont have any Ln2/Di but i´m one of the highest on air with 940BEQuote:
Originally Posted by Astennu
And also team finland did used dfi to get 6ghz+ , i think the 6.5 ghz was on dfi to.
^^ indeed it was DFi
It cold-booted at -242c aswell :)
Guys.
It is possible to resize pictures. Please learn how to do it, or post links to various "spamsites" where you find it useful to store your pictures. :)
And "Krjalone", it is only one common sensor for "coretemp" for Phenom. No point in pos(t)ing 4 laaaarge images for the same thing.
Here is my latest status with my new X4 940. This will be my 24/7-setting.
Asus M3A78-EM
Phenom-II X4 940 @ 200x18
2x1GB Kingston HyperX DDR2-800
Club3D HD3870
read it again.......LN2 people cant hang with the -260 crowd......didnt say LN2 = -260.Quote:
Originally Posted by KELL5
This would suggest they don't come to the regular section when they can hang with the -260c crowd. LN2 never hangs with -260c.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Your mistake not mine :p:
besides, you know I'm only playin' with ya ;)
No mistake, you can take it the way you want as long as he got it.........cause you know Im just playin with ya:DQuote:
Originally Posted by KELL5
before this thread goes way offtopic
Chew heres 32m for ya.....wish I would have ran it when I did my 4.2+ghz runs
http://i271.photobucket.com/albums/j...771/pi32m1.jpg
Yeah it's all good mate :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Nice Pi time btw:up:
Touche, now I have some competition, I think i just got :owned: . I'll get yah in cinebench though :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Like someone said earlier in this thread. You guys should make a new Pi thread so we can see all your runs in a table.
It's great to see AMD rigs getting such great times.
Maybe a 1M table and a 32M table? Sure would be nice to see :)
What voltage you pushing to get HT up to snuff, My board gets flaky with 2400 and higher takes forever to boot...
What board are you running? (need to update your sig).Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Is there any performance boost above 2400HT?
my ht voltage is set to 1.28vQuote:
Originally Posted by chew*
Cinebench is my all time worst bench:shakes:
hmm I don't have HT voltage in bios :ROTF: no wonder why, oddly i duplicated your settings and did poorly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
I think I know what it is, my ram is in bank 3/4 furthest from cpu......due to heatsink, have a good mount atm so it will have to stay that way for now......
PhII 940
0850CPMW ********80377
4242.16 MHz at 1.52V air cooled with TR IFX-14 with 2 fans Scythe Ultra Kaze@3000RPM.
For now it's stable on 3.8GHz 1.456V(that are my 24/7 clocks), but I have the feeling the voltage can be reduced to something like 1.4V or even lower.
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/518...n250658rd5.jpg
I have a lot of benches done with the cpu, I'll give some if needed.
:up: one of the best overclock/voltage ratios Ive seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
Thanks for the good words. :) Now I really have stimulation for more bench sessions(when I saw several results here), but I don't have the time right now and it's pretty warm here. If the temps drop to -5/-10 degrees I'm sure the CPU can get another 100-150MHz. :) Now it's nearly 5 and the validation was made also on around 5 degrees ambient temperature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Try with 2 or even with 1 memory module.Quote:
Originally Posted by diekul
New suicide: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=498605
Same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Titan7171
Although I thought the IFX-14 would be inline with TRUE, especially because of the IFX-10 (back plate cooler) since a lot of people dont want to use it. Cant blame them, finally got everything installed, put it on my motherboard tray then to notice you cant use the slide-in function anymore because of the IFX-10:mad: Nah, wasnt happy about all that.
Anyway, Im wondering what Ive been able to do with a TRUE since that OC is very close to my results. I think slightly better cooling would have gained me a bit on the HTT bus which would make me sit on 3.75 or maybe 3.8Ghz (seriously, 3.75~3.8Ghz was almost stable). That was on 1.485Vcore, but my board has this fancy feature to drop 0.014V under load, making it an actual ~1.471Vcore. Still worse than Stuen4y's result, just curious how it would have been in combination with a TRUE:rolleyes:
But, in about a week or two Ill have 4 times the surface for heat dissipation than Ive now (going to an EK Supreme Acetal block with TCF X-Changer 480mm rad), Ill just keep my current Vcore and see how much clocks might increase because of the improved cooling. After that Ill just put a 1.55~1.6Vcore on it and see where that brings me for 24/7.
What temps do you have with about +20c indoor temp? 24/7 settings idle/load and vocre and mhz thx!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuen4y
One thing i see most of the Phenom II clocks about the same if they got same temp and vcore....The diffrent is not so big like it was with Opteron 165/185 cpus.
I thinking of buying some cheap Athlon 64 X2 processor and selling my 940, and then buying another one. I think I have the worst overclocker here.
What do you guys think? You think maybe a future BIOS might help or that I should just dump this loser? Plus, I'd hate to get another 940 and find out my motherboard had some sort of defect.
ehhhh who knows what is to come. as we all know sb 750 had ACC which helped fix bad ocing phenom Is. something might come later that would give better overclocks. if you don't lose much money by selling it and getting a new one then go for it but even that doesn't guarantee that you will get a good one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
mine is pretty bunk too comparing to the rest of the chips here. it needs 1.45 to run 3.6, then some ACC to make it completely stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
i have another 920 that i haven't even tried yet, in another copy of the 790fxb(i RMA'd one that burned up),and am waiting for a PSU to come in the mail before i get it running. if that one doesn't clock decently, i'd be inclined to point the finger at the board. but then this is the board that was used in AMD's liquid helium runs, and it clocked my agena's excellently when it wasn't busy frying them. :confused:
im seriously considering picking up an 805 with a AM3 board to try that once it's out. i probably wouldn't feel that way if my current chip clocked as well as others have.
Yeah my 940 needs the same to do 3.6! When I first plugged it into the socket it seemed to not need so much vcore. But after foolin with it for awhile it got to where it needed more to do the same. Im gonna sell this one off and get 2 more and see what happens!Quote:
Originally Posted by daellum67
CHEW, I get better PI times with the Asus then I do with the GB, this is consistant too. Just thought I'd mention that.Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
No, it definitely doesn't, but I got a real good chance I'll get one better than what I have now. I would be losing a lot though, I paid the original price for my 940, and I'd have to undercut the current price to get it sold.Quote:
Originally Posted by roofsniper
I could consider a 945 though, if it's Black Edition.
Well if you have the worst then mine is 2nd worst, I need 1.475 for 3.6 stable of a cold cold day. I would have water cooled it if I would have thought it worth the effort to set it all up but I really don't think my chip has much if anymore left in it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cybercat
I plan on keeping mine, I'm not sure its worth the hassle for me personally just to end possibly with another chip that does roughly the same OC give or take some mhz. Maybe after there's a new stepping or time for process tweaks I may consider it.
3815MHz 1.456V, around 25* ambient temp:
Idle:
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/8...n251008sn7.jpg
Load:
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/8...n251011oh6.jpg
That is with 2 akasa fans on 5V.
I'm not using the backside cooler, cause my case is with down placed PSU and there is no place for it, besides that the mounting kit for AM2 is awful(I mean you can really benefit from the IFX-10, because the whole cooler is not tightly held), so I'm using my default aluminum back plate from the DQ6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rammsteiner
Yeah, honestly I'm looking at maybe an extra 200MHz at the same or slightly higher VCORE (current OC in sig) with a new chip. Already it's at 20%, which is noticeable in realworld. Really it's just the disappointment of it all. I have the worst OCing 940 here, and it's the worst OCing processor I've ever had (I always had at least 35% OC), and I saved up over two months to get it (with the whole computer). :hitself:Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
But really it's not worth it. At the best I'd get like a 30% OC. Meh.