Try LinX 0.6.2, it has the new linpack instruction, I can pass IBT but fail to pass LinX, try 30 passes LinX with 4500 mem
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The way I go about ensuring stability is that I make sure my rig is prime and linpack stable (even if it's just a few minutes) at a minimum 200 MHz above my target 24/7 overclock with the same voltage settings.
I run my rig @ 100% cpu for 24/7.
Current 24/7 setting: 3.5 GHz (167 x 21), 1.15 vcore, 1.2 uncore.
It is prime and linpack stable @ 3.8 GHz (181 x 21), same voltage settings.
20 days straight of 24/7 100% cpu... no problems.
Similarly, my alternate 24/7 settings is:
3.8 GHz (181 x 21), 1.25 vcore, 1.275 uncore.
But it is prime and linpack stable @ 4.0 GHz (191 x 21), same voltage settings.
I'm currently running this setting (@ 3.8 GHz) 24/7. To test it out for a few weeks.
I think this is how Intel bins them, but they do it with a much larger safety buffer. (probably on the order of 1 GHz for the 920s and 800 MHz for the 975s...)
Of course, any sort of safety buffer (even if it's just 200 MHz) is unacceptable to most OC'ers even for 24/7 :rofl::rofl::rofl:. But for me, I prefer the reliability. Since I run @ 100% cpu 24/7. :rolleyes:
*On the other hand, my benchmark settings have no safety buffer...
Anyone know anything about the following batch 3845B026, my local PC shop has a few of these and im contemplating grabbing one.
so far my new micro center from DALLAS texas 199 i7 920 is running like a trooper
4305mhz (205*21)@ 1.33 bios 1.31v CPU-Z running prime now will edit with screen shots soon.
1.28v bios got me over 4.2 ghz
this is sweet upgrade from my e8400 Wolfy at this point.
Is 70c decent temps ???
Hey man,
It would appear that this new chip of mine is an absolute dog.. I have spent the last 2 days trying to get it stable at 4GHz but it just won't go there... :(
I currently have it stable @ 3.82GHz with 1.248v in CPUZ, and 1.3v QPI/Vtt, but the temps are insane compared to my last chip..
The last one would do 4GHz with 1.264v and 1.35v QPI/Vtt, and the idle temps were around 44 to 46c, and under load they would hit 82c, but this chip @ 3.8GHz, idle temps are 51c, and 88c under load, and this is with less Vcore and QPI voltage that the last processor, and also the last processor was being cooled by a Zalman 9700NT, whereas I have a TRUE on this one!!
I have tried applying more TIM, reseated the heatsink several times, and I have even tested my 2nd TRUE but nothing is making any difference at all, so I take it is just this chip that runs hot???
I am extremely upset about this tbh, because OcUK have given me a replacement chip that is an absolute dog, and I am pretty sure that they know this as well, because the CPU had been used already before I got it, the guy who sent this chip out said to me that it was a brand new chip, and that he broke the seal so that the people who package the hardware for shipping them out would just think that it was an RMA being returned instead of a new chip, but as soon as I opened the box, I checked the underside of the chip, and you could clearly see the pin marks on the contact points where it had been installed on a mobo...
I said to the guy that I had suspected that they had sent me a chip which they knew was a dog, but he never mentioned anything about this in his reply...
I really don't think it matters how much voltage I were to put through this chip, it just isn't capable of doing anything more than 3.8GHz, which I know isn't to shabby, but the reason that I am so unhappy about it is because the chip I sent back could do 4GHz without any issues, and I am sure once I got it under water that I could have gotten it stable @ 4.4GHz, because it could boot into Windows @ 4.4GHz quite easily, it was just the temps got to high under air so I couldn't bench it properly to test for stabilty..
I even got that chip to boot @ 20 x 225 a couple of times, but as soon as I started Prime it would BSOD..
So they have taken my old chip, tested it, and found no faults at all, and they have still went and replaced it with an extremely poor sample, and kept my average chip to themselves...
There really isn't anything I can do about it.. I asked for them to swap it over to my old chip again, but the guy said that it ended up being used in one of their pre-built systems, even though he had told me when he sent the new chip out that he would just use my old one in his test rig himself!!!
So I really don't know where I stand here tbh.. do I have the right to send this chip back and ask them to replace it because of what they have done, even though the original processor was purchased about 2 months ago?
I must be able to do something surely, because they shouldn't have swapped my processor over when my last chip was tested and found not faulty..
Ugh, I have a POS i920 that is highly unstable. Frequent BSOD no matter what I do.
Asus P6T Deluxe V2
i920 D0 3919A509
CPU Ratio: 21
Speed step: enable
BLCK: 180
DRAM: 1443 MHz
CPU: 1.23125v
PLL: 1.86
QPI: 1.35
IOH volts: 1.20
DRAM volts: 1.66
CPU/PCIE spread spectrum: disabled
C1E: Enabled
C-State: Enabled
Under load it runs in the mid to upper 70s. The system can last anywhere from a few minutes to a few hours before BSOD. Extremely frustrating.
Ideas?
Disable: c-states and c1e.
I tried turning them on with a known 5+hr occt linpack stable oc. It would instantly bsod with c1e enabled at boot and would make it into windows, but would eventually bsod with just c-states. This is on a P6T6. 3903A468 here. I havn't needed to mess with PCIe clocks. Still at 100 for 200 bclk without a problem.
ahhh when i read this thread i remind my second 920D0 that i sold about 1 month ago
http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/1...ewfanrt275.jpg
PatRaceTin -- whats your setting on that run ???
I didn't want to push QPI/Vtt beyond 1.355v in bios but 4.5 1hr stable rocks setting????
oops 1.355v
Just done some testing with Stock heatsink/paste, Mobo has stock bios, all stock voltages apart from ram @ 1.65v and cpu @ 1.165v (also it's over 30 deg in my flat atm)
I'm priming at 175x21 with no throttle (sitting at 80 deg (so says Ai Suite)) with HT on. Does not seem like the best, but shouldn't be a lemon either (hopefully).
Doing much better now! No BSODs!
BCLK 180
DRAM 1443
CPU 1.23125v
PLL 1.86v
QPI 1.31250v
DRAM 1.64v
Disabled C1E and C-States. 12 hour prime stable, and 20 Linpack on very high. Lower CPU voltage resulted in system freezing. I'll try and lower PLL to 1.82. DRAM timings are set to 7-7-7-20. All voltages are BIOS settings.
Thanks guys!
I've just moved to a new place so my internet options are limited, (hence only testing with stock bios etc). Once i've setup my system properly i'll give it a proper go and see what i'll get, ideally somewhere about 4.2ghz+ for 24/7. Have you done much testing with your chip yet?
is that better ??
Does anyone else only have the option to upload pics from a URL?
yep it sucks Geebs
but I use photobucket and just use {img} {/img} replace { with [
http://i825.photobucket.com/albums/z...43057mhz-2.jpg
Well, the lowest voltage I can use for 3.8 GHz is 1.20000v with my memory at 1600 MHz... When I used 1.2065v, I got almost 2 GFlops more throughput and nearly a 10 second quicker time per test...
On a side note, the reduction in quality one has to use to get the pics on here is ridiculous. I can barely make the characters out ffs...:down::down::down:
Why not use http://imageshack.us/
You don't have to sign up and they keep images on their servers for a long, long time. Perfect for forum posts.
Just put the big link it gives you in between some tags like this:
{img}http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/6979/500mhz.png{/url}
Change the {} brackets to some of these [] and it will show up fine in a post.
You can also use imgur.com, it was intended for reddit.com but anyone can use it..
Anyone got any tips for a Batch # 3845B026 as to where to start.. I tried getting into windows @4.4 Ghz but Blue Screens before the login screen..
The local PC shop had 5 3845B026's
I need to get some screens with all the details after my PSU is done getting sleeved, but here is my preliminary findings on my chip:
Batch: 3913B225
Speed: 4.2GHZ and 4.4GHZ w/hyperthreading
Voltage: 1.325 (higher on the 4.4 when I tested it fast but I need to go back any check what it was)
Temp @ Load: mid 60s (4.2) low 70s (4.4)
Cooling: H2O
I need to spend some time with this chip and tweak the settings to really find out what it needs and get some screen once my system is back together.
My new chip - Batch 3845B026
I can get in Windows at 4.2 and 4.4 but not stable. I have the ram underclocked right now to test the CPU. If I take the BCLK above 200 should I raise the IOH voltage?
http://imgur.com/XHEZN.jpg
Model: I7 920
Stepping: D0
Batch: 3910A298
Freq: 4.0ghz 200x20
Mobo: Asus P6T Deluxe V2
Bios: 0504
RAM: 6GB OCZ 8-8-8-24-1T
PSU: PCP&P Silencer 750w
Temps: 79/79/78/77 max
Cooling: Ultra 120 Extreme, push/pull yate loons 1400rpm, icd7 paste spread with razor blade
Volts: 1.2625 cpu, 1.88 pll, 1.3 qpi, 1.64 ram
Stability: 8hr Prime Blend
http://i371.photobucket.com/albums/o...g?t=1250695899
Batch # 3845B027
I started working on stability for a change today on my 920 after months of havin it, LOL. Test ran was blend. I have a mild overclock on my RAM and also gave the uncore a nice lil boost. Here is what I have so far:
http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/j..._4315ghz_3.png
I had to settle for only 6 hours as I woke up this morning a lil before 2am to go to work just to realize there was one of the biggest lightening/thunder/rain/wind storms going on that I had ever seen. Not wise. 4.315ghz was too easy and I am moving on up today. I have a feeling heat will be a factor for me as I have a low voltage/ high temp CPU.
I have 3919A520
working on the OC
Hey man, you can use imageshack.us to upload pics without having an account with them, that's what I do.
Back on topic, anybody else that is running 3910A*** batch on air, can you tell me what your stock idle and load temps are please?
I have tested my chip with 3 different HSF's, and for some reason this particular chip runs a full 10c hotter than my previous chip..
46c idle, and it hits 77c when I am running LinX.. Vcore is around 0.954v idle, and it rises to 1.1675v full load..
Temps are a lot higher than the last chip, and I have tried reapplying TIM several times, and like I said, I have used 3 different coolers.
My last chip was under my Zalman CNPS9700NT, and it idled @ 36c and loads were around 69c iirc.
So I wanted to see if it was this particular batch that ran hotter than my previous batch 3851A***, or if it is just this particular chip I have that runs hot. I suspect the IHS isn't making proper contact with the base of the heatsink, because everytime I have removed this HSF there has been a line about 1cm wide that goes all the way across the center of the IHS that doesn't have any TIM on it, and the base of the heatsink is the same.
I am spreading out my AS5 so that it covers the entire IHS, and I have also tested putting an extra blob in the center before fitting the cooler, but the bare line still appears when I remove my cooler, and looking at the IHS closely, it does look as though it dips down in the center.
Yeah, they are definitely high I thought, I have tried reseating and reapplying my AS5 loads of times, I have also tested 2 different 120 Extremes, and my old Zalman 9700NT, and they are all showing extremely high temperatures compared to my last chip, and this one is using much lower voltages and is clocked lower than my previous chip..
I was looking through some screens of my last chip and then comparing them to this current one, and there is quite a difference tbh...
Stock idle temps on my last chip:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/8661/5h3m.jpg
Stock load temps:
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7...ndloadtemp.jpg
Idle temps @ 4GHz:
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2461/32634996.jpg
My old chip @ 4GHz load temps are 86c on the hottest core after nearly 4 hours of Prime95 Blend:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/432/87721p.jpg
Idle Temps at 4.2GHz, I never had the chance to play around to get this stable, so I don't have load temps as it would crash as soon as I ran Prime/LinX:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3935/14516661.jpg
And here are some screens of my new chip.
Stock idle temps:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/2893/stockidle.jpg
Stock load temps:
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/7236/stockload.jpg
Idle temps @ 3.8GHz:
http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/4449/idleb.jpg
Load temps @ 3.8GHz:
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/9795/loada.jpg
I would definitely say that there is something not quite right with these temps, I personally think that the IHS is warped, and isn't making proper contact with the base of my coolers...
I never had my Ultra 120 Extreme when I had my first processor, so I was cooling that chip with my Zalman.. I would have thought that a TRUE would do a better job than the Zalman 9700NT, but what I find even more weirder about this chip, is the fact that these temperatures are pretty much identical with all 3 coolers I have tested, I think the Zalman was about 1c hotter than the TRUE...
::edit::
Really sorry about the size of these images, I thought imageshack resized them when you upload images!!!
@BLunT
3.8ghz 200x19 @ 1.200v is really not bad, it should do 4.0ghz 191x21 @ 1.26v like your old chip
not seeing much for 3904A361
http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/1927/4ghz.jpg
Hi mate,
Yeah I know that those voltages are really good, this is why I don't understand why I am experiencing these huge differences in temps between this chip and my previous one.
I mean surely if I am pushing less voltage through this chip, it should actually run cooler than my previous one right?
I have tested up to 1.355v Vcore and 1.4v QPI for 4GHz, but when I ran LinX the temps hit 100c on the hottest core, so I stopped testing immediately.
And I have tried running 4GHz using the same voltages as my last chip, but it doesn't even manage a single pass of LinX before it gives me a BSOD with Stopcode: 0x00000101.
When I tested it with 1.355v Vcore, it done 2 passes before I manually shut it down because of the temps.
It must be the IHS on the chip that is warped, because I have tested 3 different coolers on it, 1 of which was the cooler that I used for my last chip, and the temps were still ridiculously high.
As you can see from those pics above my last chip @ stock idled at 34c on the hottest core, but this new one idles @ 50c, 16c of a difference, that is not normal.
Also, I have tried reseating the coolers loads of time, and reapplying AS5 to, infact, I had half a tube of AS5 when this chip arrived, I now have none left because of the amount of times I have reapplied it to see if it was due to there not being enough/to much TIM.
Anyway, as I said, I will be getting another chip pretty soon, so I am hoping I get a decent one this time.
If I didn't care about my warranty, I would just lap this chip to make the IHS nice and level, as I am pretty sure this chip has an uneven IHS, when I look at it closely, it actually looks like it is concaved, and whenever I remove my coolers, there is a line across the IHS about 1cm wide that doesn't have any TIM on it, this happens everytime I have removed my coolers, I tried spreading out the TIM so it was nice and even, and then I also put another little blob in the center before fitting the cooler, but this didn't have any effect whatsoever.
I also tried putting a washer underneath the mounting bracket so that there was more pressure on the heatsink, and this knocked a measly 2c off the temps, which wasn't worth my time tbh.
+15c at idle sounds fishy IMO
see if you can get another one
If you already mount the hs few times and still got worse temp than the old chip given that the ihs is ok then it probably a leaky cpu.
I got one last time and it certainly hotter than normal one when I poking with it..:hammer: >> Core i7: high leakage & average chips @ low VID & high VID
~30Watt make quite a difference. It certainly not kind of chip you want if you using air cooling.
The only easy method I know to see whether you chip is a leaky one is swapping 2 cpu and watch the watt meter. Or probably you can try use a clamp multimeter on cpu aux power cable..
Thanks for the replies guys.
@iboomalot, I have talked with the retailer, and they have agreed to swap this chip for me because of these issues, so I am hoping that the new chip will run as cool as my previous one did.
@Sparda, thanks for sharing that info with me, I guess this would explain these issues I am having with this chip, although I haven't got one of those things to tell me how much power my system is drawing, nor do I have another chip to compare it with, like I said, it is being replaced anyway, so I just hope that the new one will be better.
It definitely isn't a poor mount that is causing this problem, it is either what Sparda has mentioned, or it is the IHS.
Just got my new D0 today. Same voltage settings as my C0 chip, trying to see how much more I can go. This voltage achieved 3.8 GHz on my C0, so far 4.2GHz on the D0 :up:
Batch # 3849A866
http://img.techpowerup.org/090821/Capture083.jpg
i7 920 D0 Batch #3910A308
Prime
http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9326/8hrs.jpg
Linx
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/4...rscomplete.jpg
(nevermind the dates, I always forget to set it correctly:cool:)
I had a chip from this batch, and it was garbage, I had 3910A501, and it wouldn't clock any higher than 3.8GHz, and the temps were insane, I tested the chip with 4 different HSF's, and nothing I did would get the temps down.
Stock idle temps were 51c and loads were 72c!!!
Pretty much the same temps that you are getting when you are clocked to 4.2GHz!!!
Thankfully the retailer has agreed that this isn't normal and is sending me out a replacement one.
I just hope that it isn't anything like the previous one!
BLunTSmoKeR Good luck with your next cpu, it seems that they are not all that bad.
Don't forget to post the results when you get it :up:
@KingsofSorrow, that's my replacement chip being shipped out to me now, and I also ordered my 2nd chip this morning as well, so they will both be here with me tomorrow, I will be sure to post my results on here as soon as I test them out.
Batch #3844A716
10x Linpack stable with 1.235v
Here at almost 4000 uncore with 1.35vtt and 1.29v vcore
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/1...21x198htof.png
I'm limited with my air cooler. With a WC I would esily run it at 4.4/4.5.
[QUOTE=unclewebb;3938042]Scooby: Your screen shot clearly shows turbo throttling. Your multipler is at 20X at full load which equals about 4308 MHz.
At idle it jumps back up to 21X or 4523 MHz but it's not running at that speed at full load.
You need to make an adjustment in your bios to get the 21X multi to stick at full load.
Check out RealTemp 3.30 and i7 Turbo V8 so you can watch your multi at full load.
Unclewebb,
i7 Turbo has EIST grayed out and core 1 throttles. EIST is disabled in the bios of my GA EX58 UD4P. How do I get the 21X to stick?
Thanks
Both C1e and EIST are disabled.
Yah
the interesting thing is that EIST shows with a check mark in i7 Turbo 6.5 and is grayed out.:shrug:
Heres my batch D0
#: 3913B213
http://i25.tinypic.com/t6yn14.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/screenshot/664229.png
passed 20x linx
3904A361 D0
here is my latest stable settings. Currently crunching on them as well, I think this CPU is freakin' amazing!
http://img.techpowerup.org/090826/Capture101.jpg
This is my 3849B028 D0 on my new uATX build
http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o...wvolt_4500.jpg
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=677707
I see some people on here show their overclocks with HT off, i though whole point of buying i7's is to have more then 4 cores :shrug:
Well, I got my replacement CPU yesterday morning, it is batch 3921A624.
My temps are now back to normal thankfully, and it is currently o/ced to 4GHz and is perfectly stable.
Idle temps are 36c, and full load they are 80c on the hottest core, this is with my TRUE with one Xigmatek fan installed..
I am trying to get it o/ced to 4.2GHz atm, but I am having difficulty getting it stable, LinX keeps BSOD'ing with stock code 0x00000124, I read somewhere that this is caused by not having enough QPI voltage, so I am playing around with that atm..
My 2nd chip for my fiancees i7 build should be arriving here today as well, so I will see how good that one is so that I can keep the best one for myself!! :D
@oggie, I think some people disable HT so that they can get bigger overclocks, and I think that it also requires less Vcore and they don't run as hot neither.
@ Bei Fei, that is extremely low Vcore for 4.5GHz man, is this stable????
I have 3907A360 and also got it perfect at 4.0 GHz but to get it stable at 4.2 i need 1.37v so not worth it.
Regarding error ....124 - yes thats QPI voltage error
Now about HT, if i use my pc mainly for gaming is it worth it having lower (4.0GHz) speed with HT on or should i try higher speeds with HT off :shrug:
Also i know most games/applications use first 2 cores, is there a way of assigning other cores to run things such as antivirus progrems :confused:
I wonder if anyone can answer my question?
I just got my second i920 delivered about 2 minutes ago, and I checked the batch number, and it is identical to my chip I got yesterday..
I thought that the last three digits after the letter would be unique to each chip, but they are both 3921A624..
Is this normal??
I didn't think that you could get two chips with identical batch numbers like this, I thought it was only the first part that could be the same, like 3921A and then the last three numbers would be different for each chip...
BLunTSmoKeR
Sure thing - it's normal. Though they still can overclock differenly (I think).
Thanks for the confirmation guys.
I will be testing the 2nd chip either tonight or tomorrow, hopefully this one is as nice as the one I got yesterday...
@Blunt, what is your CPU VID? you can check it in the bios behind the VCORE
4GHz 191x21@1.264v can you please post full template for all settings?
Thanks
got 3912B351 a few weeks ago, did more dry ice runs with it then AIR but this is what i got out of it, im sure it'll do 4,5 ghz or higher aswell, but my HDD kept going worser and worser, and now it's like broken.
pics:
http://tweakersdotnet/4398mhz-prime8...ock-i7-920.JPG
Need some help and advice here guys.
I have my i7 920 DO overclocked to 4305 stable. System is per sig.
Here are my settings:
Multi 20 Turbo enabled
bclk 205
vCore 1.44
Qpi/vtt 1.455
CPU pll 1.84
PCIE auto
QPI pll 1.26
IOH Core 1.24
ICH i/o auto
ICH Core auto
vDimm 1.66
I would like to get to 4400 but the vcore is already about as much as I want to try. It seems to me that I have too much vcore for a DO.
I would appreciate any suggestions to get to 4400 at about the same vcore as I am at now. Am I where this chip is going to go or are there settings that I am missing that will get me higher without cooking something? My load temps are ~80c now. I am upgrading to a heatkiller which should give me a couple of degrees.
I will appreciate any help.
@phsinc, I will get a profile of my BIOS for you later on, I don't suppose you have a link to that page that has the BIOS layout, and I can just choose the settings from drop down menus, it is pretty much just like my exact BIOS screens, and it allows me to set it the way my real BIOS is set???
Here is it: http://www.jzelectronic.de/bios/x58.php
Here you go mate.
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/4249/mit1.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/126/voltages.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/4562/accuvb.jpg
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/5500/advancedcpu.jpg
Hope this helps you out man.
p.s. if there are any other screens you would like me to give you, just ask.
I notice something strange though with my Vcore, I can set it anywhere from where it is in these screens to 1.2914v, and CPUZ gives me the same reading of 1.264v???
1.22500v is what it says in the BIOS for normal Vcore.
And yes 16x Uncore is what I have set mine to.
This chip has much higher VID than the chip that it replaced, my last one was 1.19500v, but it was damaged, the idle temps of that last chip at stock frequency were 17c higher than the idle temps of this chip when it is O/Ced to 4GHz!!! :O
My first ever Intel system :D
Batch # 3922A415
http://i31.tinypic.com/25s1lhz.jpg
Hey BLunTSmoKeR how did you get them screens? they look really cool lol.
he copied them from www.jzelectronic.de ;)
Did some more work on mine.
http://bildr.no/thumb/478321.jpeg
3849A916
Stable at 4.4 for 24/7 use, trying to find a sweet spot for 4.5 now.
http://bildr.no/thumb/478331.jpeg