Haven't bought it, will feedback tomorrow>>>>>>>:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
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Haven't bought it, will feedback tomorrow>>>>>>>:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
on action, trying the lowest voltages possible
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ephen/3710.jpg
will update again tomorrow.
E6600 (running 3,42 @ default VCore <-- I don't think it's the bottleneck)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrazauberer
Its the bottleneck....
Re-mount your cooling correctly and set 1.55v vcore temps should not be over 60c or so in dual 32m.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
u mean it touches the nb-cooler? mine doesnīt...
anyway i donīt think this will cause any troubles...
It is blocking one of the corners, not a big problem though....Quote:
Originally Posted by Alonso
this is just for fun, don't ask me anything about this photo:D
you should know why :)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...10-06_2052.jpg
time to bed, should be no problem till tomorrow:)
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...tephen/230.jpg
tell me all yuor bios voltages form vcore, vnb and I will try to replicate approximtaley what you are doing on my retail board. Vdimm I will set according to my ram, vcore and vnb i will use your settings approx and adjust a little if required....
regards
Raja
vMCH 1.85v (I have set higher just in case...)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
vdimm 2.2v (set higher to make sure it is stable also)
vcore - depends on your CPU, isn't it?
e6600 stepping 5 es, so far fails all the way from 1.5v in bios all the way to 1.61 and over (bios) over 400fsb, also taking into account of vcore is 0.06 lower than bios if measured with dmm (myfriend OPB confirmed this) . Same cpu on PRO board 1.47 in bios (1.53) actual is 425fsb stable, 8 hours orthos same ram 1:1.
Tried cas 5 with loose timings and also used memset to adjust all secondries real loose still no joy...
Ram all the way to 2,35 can't pass orthos so far 1:1 over 400fsb, any priority blend on this board. Extra cooling of the NB too, with fans...
maybe you have a good board, better than retail. I am not the only one failing and there seems to be no other answer....
Regards
Raja
here is my asus pro results, with same hardware...
edit vcore 1.47 (1.53 actual) same ram...
http://img345.imageshack.us/img345/8338/380745gx3.jpg
and another...
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2342/382511dw8.jpg
this board (ABIT) needs extra vcore than my previous board,Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
it is about 0.05v more required for the same clock, but it is not hotter afterall....
goodnight dude 2AM here
yeah i try all the way past 1.61 too still no go....
regards
Raja
so here we are 1.63 vcore in bios (probably 1.56-7 actual)
vdimm is 2.35(way more than required)
vmch is 1.9v
410fsb
ram timings spd.
http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/55/410failci4.jpg
geez. this is frustrating to watch. lol.
no one can get more than a few mhz above 400 fsb orthos stable on this board!
makes me want to get rid of this board. ugh.
but looking at that other thread (the one about 975x chipset boards doing 420+ orthos stable) it seems like no 975x chipset can do high fsb.
i wonder if i should just get a p5b deluxe... sigh.
yeah... i stopped benching cause i couldn't break the 400fsb... after i get my waterblocks i'll test again, not sure it'll make much diference, but at least i can say my mobo has been pimped... lol :stick: :stick: :stick: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
yes only a few board have made it past 402fsb with a retail board at all, kenofstephen has a red board....
I know I am capable of overclocking past 400fsb with other boards, I'm no noob.
My PRO pics prove that..
regards
Raja
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
try 412 FSB, 0.025 more vcore, good night, I am sleeping on my bed now:D
maybe it's red kryptonite.... and we have the black one... :stick: :stick: :stick: :banana: :banana: :banana:
well the only benefit for me is that i'm going to be running a 6700 so for me to get above 3.6 ghz, i only need a fsb of 360+ which seems to be a walk in the park for this board.
questions:
does the 4:5 ratio work properly on this board?
and if it does, which gives better results, 1:1 or 4:5?
for example:
9 x 400 1:1 vs. 10 x 360 4:5 (ram should be effectively running at 450ish).
anyone test this?
according to an arcticle i've seen on the xbitlabs, having the memory at a higher frequency than the fsb will get you very little performance increase. timings however is a diferent thing... that is if i understood the arcticle correctly... :p:
anyone tried the AW9D (non-MAX) board yet? might consider it, if it has the same potential as the MAX. likely to be paired with a E6400.
For also very it is complicated here to pass the 400FSB. :(
with a 6400 i really doubt it... it will need even more fsb than the 6600.
you'd be limited to 400fsb +/- which means 3200Mhz. and i think those cpu's can do a lot more...
For good clocking cpu's with low multis, the best way to go is 965 imho.
I've moved mine over to the testbed. It will be a great board for quick Pi & 3DMark runs since there's no need to enter the bios to set overclocks. The board is great for benching & finding oveclock potential IMO, but not so good for checking an overclock's stability until a more mature bios is released.
Hi, my first post here. I normally post at Anandtech, but I'm a fan of this forum :toast: - a lot of "real life and down to earth" experiences....Quote:
Originally Posted by adehh
Regarding your question, yes it fits. I just got one myself last weekend. But this is the highest cooler I've ever had, I had to buy also a new case (or mod the old one, not worth the time+money) to make it fit.
Be sure to measure before buying
And I just want to add 1 more to Raju's numbers....Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
My E6600 rig runs 24/7 stable 1.375VCore 1.65Vmch 2.05 Vdim at 9x378 (3.4GHz). I can let Orthos run up to 24 hours, no problems.
But I cannot run the E6600 9x400 Orthos stable, no matter what. I tried everything, the best I can do is to get Orthos running for 40 minutes. For this to happen, VCore goes to 1.525, Vmch 1.75 - higher Vmch does not help in this case (tried all the way to 2V), the issue is at VCore.
Using Vmch 2.0V and high VCore (1.55), I can run FSB420 and enter memtest, sometimes I manage to get Windows desktop and run Superpi, but it is not stable.
On the other hand, the E6400 from my second rig can run 8x400 on the AW9D up to 12 hours Orthos stable, VCore 1.375V, Vmch 1.76, VDim 1.95 (Plat). This E6400 does not go much higher than 3.2GHz, to go further I have to reduce the multiplier but experience is similar, Vmch has to go up and even so it is not stable.
I did all: AS5 on the NB/SB, cooler on NB, different DDR2 sticks (I tried OCZ Gold, Plat and Corsair C4). These DDR2 sticks run all the way to FSB450 on the Gigabyte DS4, under 2.1V
3.4Ghz is the sweet spot I decided to take, because Voltages are mild and temperatures are normal. To get just 200MHZ more, it needs all Voltages way up and not worth imo.
I spent a lot of time trying to tweak, reading hundreds of posts, bought different components to try and make it work, it simply doesn't happen. I decided to accept the facts and stop the greed, as 3.4GHz is already a good result.
The mobo is good but I have the feeling it could do better. When I look at the reviews and see what we are getting here, I feel somewhat cheated.....
From now on I only trust what "normal" people post here (including some proof :fact: ...).
I'm tempted to try the P5W64, but I had so many issues with Asus in the past that I'm keeping distance from it.
It is everything said, I also I opted to this solution. We go to wait for new bios.
Same problems here, uses the beta bios right now and i can´t even boot with anything under multi x9, under the boot up bios say that i´running 517x8 when i set 400x8 in bios. Scary stuffs, and another thing is that everthing else than divider 1:1 won´t work för me....I know my memorys don´t stop, they are good for 600mhz with my P5B DLX.....Abit needs to release a new stable bios.......
Well said!! Thats why I started the orthos stable thread I am still waiting for a 975x board to run my crossfire and take advantge of my memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madellga
here is my final shot to prove my case, and just to keep the peace I used the extra vcore at 1.65 in bios at 412fsb, and I certainly already new this would not work! (but had to prove it to our friend with the red board)
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/2...2failedws3.jpg
Frys has the 6300 with a throw away ECS M-ATX board for $169. Might try that and see if the abit just doesn't like 6600's. They also have week 32 6600's there. I'm so tempted :)
yes, those who cannot hit over 400 fsb orthos blend stable are the majority not the minority.
regards
Raja
Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Hey raju, can you do me a favor and test that out at 8x?
Certainly i know your cpu should be able to do it at 9x, but at least we can determine what the real issue is that way.
Hey thanks,Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
I wasnt calling you a liar, just wanted to make sure this board performs how it should. ;)
:toast:
Quote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Hey Hipro, you make a very good point, personnally i dont like orthos, i loop 3dmark05 all night and its fine, i play oblivion for hours while encoding videos without a single error and then orthos will fail after 30 seconds.
Orthos is more of a tool to prove stability, as i cant show people that i ran 3dmark all night ya know?
I have to clock lower or volt higher to get orthos stable, but when it comes to proving a boards stability, it is hard to argue with.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
problem is board/bios no doubts, check my previous posting of my asus pro results you can see 425fsb orthos stabilty with same ram, psu and cpu.
Just cos you asked nicley I will do it....
regards
Raja
:toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Ok guys, sorry for going off the theme right now but im getting pretty mad.
So the problem is that my e6600 is running on a 6x multi, but i have it set to 9x in bios. The problem occured after i installed the 1.2 bios and is still present after i have just installed the 1.3beta. CPU-Z shows a 6X multiplier and it doesnt lie, coz my SuperPi time is 31 seconds @ stock speeds. First i thought its some bug in CPU-z but after OC-in the processor to 3.4ghz i ran SuperPi 1M and my time was 22 seconds (:O, shock :P).
What to do?
Thanks
ok I have fulfilled every request to prove my point with patience, please let me be now. A man should not have to prove his integrity this many times.
here ya go, 8x multi failure, same voltages as 9x attempt, ignore the orthos reported cpu speed there is a bios bug.
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/879/8xmultiem4.jpg
regards
Raja
Thanks for humoring me Raju!
That sucks, hopefully a new bios will fix it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuBBle.D
turn off c1e and intel speedstep.
Both disabled, still the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
I just hope the board isnt faulty/bad. Any more tips? Thanks.
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/6194/cpuzby6.th.jpg
umm okay something weird just happened with my system...i turned it off and just when it was gonna shut down i heard one beep and almost whole system went quiet but psu and my 12cm fan(connected to cpu fan on mobo) that was cooling my 7950gx2 kept going for about 2mins O_o
Quote:
Originally Posted by BuBBle.D
Home/office desk under display monitor power is selected right?
Just checked, it is, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
I'm having some hard times with this mobo. Anyone here been able to run 1:1 ratio with an OCZ Rev. 2 Plats? Thanks.
There is a SPD update from OCZ but you would need to request it through Tony. It requires reprogramming one module at a time in windows.
Have you tried bios 13 yet? You can flash with the ABit program "Flashmenu" on the Max board even though it is not listed as supported.
Thanks Fugger. I have indeed updated to bios 13 and no luck. I'll pm Tony asap. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by FUGGER
I stopped it this morning and add back the CPU-Z page as there is a bug reported by raju about multiplier, I done the test with both C1E and EIST on.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...en/12hrs-1.jpg
hi guys, I just realized something might be important during the reboot.
the option:
Thermal Monitor 1 & 2
I changed the battery and it now saves the guru settings after unplugging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceflight
In the Control Panel/Power Options/Power Schemes - "Always On"Quote:
Originally Posted by BuBBle.D
I don't know how to use Flash Menu with this board, any help? Thanks!
I usually d/l the bios manually and use flashmenu and select update bios from file, point it at the new bios and hit flash. I dont know about the one click update stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
where did you get flash menu for AW9D Max.?? thxQuote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
should be on your abit cdrom
LOL, my red one don't have it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Nettwerk
btw, I can get v1.4 on web
hm... ever since flashing my board from 1.2 to the betas i have been having problems running dual channel. Everything works fine when i just use one stick single channel but when i put in 2 stick for dual channel blue, or black computer wont boot. It might boot once in a while but that is very rare. Been able to do 420+ stable orthos blend priority 9 in single channel. But dual channel is even hard to boot the board and stock=( anyone else having these problems>?
I had the problem as well, since you guys have vindicated me from being labeled "insane" here is how to fix:Quote:
Originally Posted by SilveradoJ442
start>run>services.msc
Look for Themes service and DISABLE it. Don't just turn it off DISABLE it.
sparx
back to the 15/09/2006 BIOS may be a good option.Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
anyway, ABIT, you should fix this BUG for the guys here, it is a pain to them all.
Quote:
Originally Posted by kenofstephen
you please gotta try that test on 8x and 9x multiplier locked, that's where the problem really is for e6600. We have been trying with multi locked, I will have one last try with c1e and eist on and see if I can duplicate your results...
regards
Raja
edit just tried, failed, no joy..
no, don't do that, I think it is even more difficult...Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
no worries my friend thanks for trying to help...
Abit asked for the boards back, so they are going home, no more testing from me I'm afraid....
anyway review is finished..
regards
Raja
It works now!! I love you Lalaboy. Thanks a 100 times!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lalaboy
I can run Rev 2 Plat here, no problems. But 2 things:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
1) Set VDim no higher than 1.95V (Plat 2 does not like it higher), this I have with both Abit and Gigabyte
2) Set Vmch from 1.65 to 1.75 up to FSB400. Standard Vmch won't cut the pie.
This is my Orthos 24h stable. Between FSB 378 and 389 it gets instable, but I didn't try in between. No way for the E6600 to run at FSB400, as posted before. I'm not an extreme o/cer but not a noob either.
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6...rsairc4yh8.jpg
BTW, which picture format do you guys use to post here? I used compressed jpg, but it is so crappy....
How to make it look nice? Do you host outside (such as imageshack) ?
yes host on imageshack, then use [img]http:/*****[/img]
imageshack will give you the address for direct link use that...
This is my overclock so far. And this is on my scythe mine
http://rigshowcase.com/img/281aOTVr/7123.jpg
well done bro':clap:
abit is working on a 1333 strap and will test it. If it is a success, we'll see it in a future BIOS version. But nothing's promised yet ;)
Nice i would love to see that come to play
Done and thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by raju
Hi RubiconX3, can you please let us know your bios settings (VCore, Vmch, timings, ie, relevant o/c settings etc) and if possible, a screenshot including Guru showing mobo voltages (just like I did above with mine)?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Nice to Hear Sicness !! ABIT in 1333 strap !!! where you get info ?:) :) :)
Sure ill have to install Uguru. Give me a min
Well i had problems with Uguru last time and uninstalled. Same problem this time so i had to uninstall again. Soon as the computer starts and loads uguru it shuts it off imediatly.. crap Anywho i got everything else
401 FSB
1.6 vcore
1.7 MCH
1:1 Ratio
4-4-4-8 timings
http://rigshowcase.com/img/281aOTVr/7170.jpg
Thanks Madellga, but no luck here. Could you send me a dump of your RAM? I'll really appreciate it; this mobo is gving me a major headache :(. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Madellga
Vcore 1.52v
Vmch 1.87v Pretty uncomfortable
Vdimm 2.45v 3 3 3 4
Orthos 8 hours and it was another dead cmos battery case, wat's with Abit?
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/1897/orthos36rn9.jpg
Hmmm what are the symtoms of a dead battery lol? I might as well replace mine while im at it
Everytime I turn off the pc and the power, the settings in the bios reset to default the next time I boot up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubiconx3
Ahh obvious lol. I dont have that problem
Anyone had any RAM probs with this board?
My Super TalentT800UX2GC4 2Gigs went south today,looking back at my so thought hard drive/install probs,what was really happening was my sticks were dying.Shame really cos ive had them at 500mhz on the 4/5 divider before :(
Having mad problems with my OCZ PC6400 Plat. Rev. 2. Interestingly, I'm running my OCZ Value PC4200s at PC6400 1:1 divider with 5-5-5 timings; they even did 5-4-4-9 at PC6400 speed but were orthos unstable in Windows. Funny that the older technology overclocks better than anything I've seen recently. The value RAM even run at 430 FSB on my Asus P5WD2-E Premium.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebeast
Something I do not understand with this board is that the PCIE frequency seems locked at 100 and would that not cause stability issues with the OC:confused:
I bet that only your settings in the Guru section of the BIOS are reset, everything else stays the same. Correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Iceflight
i have the abit from some day...today i tested the mobo for few minute and the results are this:
boot @ 410*6 - win 451*6 vmch 1.8V - ram 1:1 timings by spd autoset 4 4 4 12
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/9983/45018as9.th.jpg
boot @ 430*6 - win 465*6 vmch 1.9V - ram 1:1 timings by spd autoset 4 4 4 12
http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9103/46519rt9.th.jpg
boot @ 440*6 - win 470*6 vmch 2.0V - ram 1:1 timings by spd autoset 4 4 4 12
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/6720/4702mz9.th.jpg
boot @ 440*7 - win 470*7 vmch 2.0V - ram 1:1 4 3 3 9
http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/5142/47072pz4.th.jpg
cpu liquid cooled and mobo stock....i raise vcore and vdimm vountarily to avoid problems...bios 1.2 official...max boot to 450 fsb, i haven't tried more :woot:
that's exactly my case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
Sometimes it's this way, sometimes everything resets to defaults including ram timings, etc...:slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
No one ?Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
Does PCIE frequency even matter?
After preparing my mobo for benching, I did some VERY QUICK tests.....Propably I'll get more out of it......I even reached 489MHz 1:1 but I was in a hurry and I quit....Rams are 2 x 512MB Corsair 8000UL with Fatbodies chips.....;)
Testing mobo under esdee's cascade for fsb.......:)
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C..._3_2_1_png.png
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C..._3_2_1_png.png
http://www.thelab.gr/images/Hipro5/C..._3_2_1_png.png
Just some quick runs.......:D
Yes it helps to get more fsb.....;)Quote:
Originally Posted by palese
You want it locked at 100.
This board locks it at 100. I flashed back to bios 1.1 as PCIE is still in bios before 1.2 and adjustable or it appeared to be, but anything over 100 and the system would still freeze like it does from windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubiconx3
I believe 110 is the proper setting for OC'S, I'm@ 3.6 and oblivian crashes on me but when I go back to stock speeds all is well with the game. Isn't this directly related to the frequency of the PCIE as it can not run at higher clock speeds with out the proper frequency adjustments as the system clocks go up?
I'm sorry I am just trying to under stand this:confused:
My understanding its automatically locked @ 100. I run mine like in the specs in the pic above. Have no problems
Nubish question:what would offer a 1333 strap?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sicness
If we get the 1333 strap then we should see 600+ FSB clocks. This would be great for low end processors with small multiples.
Not very pleased with these board right now. I have put As5 under the NB block, and mounted a 40mm fan for better cooling. I can now go up to 445fsb at 2v to mch:n. With lower multi no can do either. Trying some divider, HAHA suck that...400fsb and 4:5 no boot. I thought ABIT was good stuff but for me it`s crap right now. My asus p5w dh was better with higher fsb and dividers......