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First I'd like to thank my friend Oiler for sending me this mobo:toast:
I can say that this mobo is looks like night and day compared to the Rev1. The PCB and the wieght alone makes it feel like a good old solid Abit motherboard.
First I'd like to see what it can do right out of the box, no mods.
Looks promising, we'll see :D
I'll hook it up in a few hours.
Thanks again Oiler:)
OPP
Hey Opp I got my NF7-S today too ! I'll race you to the highest FSB unmoded ! hehe
Also got my Geil PC3700 today so it will be a fun weekend.
I can't wait to see what you can do with the board.
Hurry up and get that epos score off the ORB. :toast:
All right, we'll have some competition here:DQuote:
Originally posted by Major Slaughter
Hey Opp I got my NF7-S today too ! I'll race you to the highest FSB unmoded ! hehe
Also got my Geil PC3700 today so it will be a fun weekend.
The highest sandra memory bench with no mods, with the acception of AS III on the northbridge:D
What if can't even do 220:eek:
OPP
I'll go ahead and give it too ya Opp ! It will be Sat b4 i even touch my NF7-S gona play with the A7N8X and new mem first.
220 should be easy for ya, I hope to hit that with the Asus.
P.S. thanks for the vote of confidence Snowsl !!:toast:
I'll post them up anyway, and your setup see what yours will do :)
OPP
GL guys, and have fun:toast:
I'll be paying attention to this, as maybe they finally got rid of the earlier revision problems( not all had issues, mostly voltages and such).........
I may even buy 1 OPP...:eek:
Woohoo!:banana: :banana: Go OPP! :D
Need more then 237 fsb tho :( esp if you've done the vdimm mod. Abit better come up with a new BIOS very soon.
Mine arrived today too, OP, and gotta say the build quality is much better just by the looks of things. Was so tempted to play but off to work.
I was trying to figure out the stepping codes on the 2800+ Barton I got today, but that's in another thread.
Have a blast, will hopefully be building out tomorrow, but I have to do some case mods ala RoydRage to install my 510W PC Power and Cooling external pots first, before I get to throwing in the new mobo, mem, etc.
im tempted in getting another rev1.2.....
Hopefully soon OPP i will be there with some high fsb on this Abit NF7S rev 1.2 which i have ordered with VDD mod. Wish it had the memory mod as i probably will need it to try and catch up with you.
Jen
No memory mod here and I can max it out at 237 fsb. If Abit comes out with a better BIOS then I will think bout the vdimm mod. This board takes a ton of vdd voltage compared to the rev1.1 tho.
Good luck all!
what timings are you running?
Ohh man can u say new #1 position on the orb
what kind of memory do you have twiggy? i just got this board yesterday and when i get it going on sat i'm gonna see what i can do. i have HyperX 3500 1x512.
Hey Opp,
You are most welcome.
I can't wait to see what you can do with this board.
I am very impressed with it and as you mentioned, the quality of the board is like an Abit should be.
Let the benching wars begin :-)
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Originally posted by oiler
Hey Opp,
You are most welcome.
I can't wait to see what you can do with this board.
I am very impressed with it and as you mentioned, the quality of the board is like an Abit should be.
Let the benching wars begin :-)
you sound like a very very good person to know lol, can't wait to see some results here
Well i Wish you the best of Luck OPP. I will be rma'ing my 1.1 to newegg and hope they will send me a 1.2
If not ill be stuck for a while.. maybe use my kx7-333 after it rma's :(
Got me one too.
Still with Sammy 2700 memory and don't seem to be able to get over 171fsb.
My Ram Timings 8,4,4,2
Vdimm 2.72
Anyone not what i should do (apart from buy some Twinmoss 3200!)
Tx
Not to break up the competition, but did all of you guys order from newegg?? Thanks.
Got tired of messing around with my Asus and new memory, was able to get it stable through 3D apps at 217 Dc Sync. thats with vdd mod @ 1.90v.
So got the NF7-S in the case, out of the box so far can do 212 Dc Sync stable in 3D apps. Not quite what I was hopeing for but still better than my Asus did b4 mods.
I noticed the stepping on my NB was A2, have seen some getting A3's what was yours Opp ?
Guess this weekend I'll be getting the solidering iron hot, was hopeing this would be a mod free deal, guess not.
Also this Geil looks like it might have some potential, in the Asus with vmem mod @ 3.1v I was able to run the 217 at 5-2-2-2. Need more juice I think on the Abit It likes 7-3-3-2.5 so far.
This is 2x512mb PC3700PL so might not oc as well as 256mb version.
Let us know Opp how its going.
2.5-2-2-6 Not to shabby for 2.9v.Quote:
Originally posted by gokickrocks
what timings are you running?
PGansz- Im using XMS3500.
do you think i running hyperX 3500 will get me over 210fsb??? i'm not a serious overclocker, but i'm gonna see how high i can go when i get my new system going.
twiggy - what do you have set in your cpu FSB/DRAM ratio? I'll be running 3500 also & setting it up tomorrow. Thanks.
Wow...this is very surprising. I would have thought all steppings of the NB on the v1.2 to be A3. Just for reference here's a pic of my NB:Quote:
Originally posted by Major Slaughter
I noticed the stepping on my NB was A2, have seen some getting A3's what was yours Opp ?
http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/r...ture%20080.jpg
How about everyone else?
3/3(100%). :)Quote:
Originally posted by WxChaser
twiggy - what do you have set in your cpu FSB/DRAM ratio? I'll be running 3500 also & setting it up tomorrow. Thanks.
Son of a *****. I bet my stepping is A2. I hit a wall at 212 also. I'll check tomorrow. Have to go to bed now.
Thanks twiggy - kind of weird figuring out the other ratios besides the 100 percent.
ummm snowsl i dont know about this whole nb a2 a3 thing but i have a rev1.0 which obviously has a old northbridge and i can do 220 w/ 1.7vdd....
the issue is your northbridge cooling. i epoxied a celeron heatsink/fan onto mine. using stock i could get like 195mhz but w/ the new cooler 220 is 100% usable but i vary it up like right now i am at 217mhz etc
Celeron like PIII? Like one of these, or something else? And it made 25mhz differnce in FSB? Hmmmm....time to rethink my NB cooling since I'm not currently using either of these for anything.Quote:
Originally posted by Emericana
ummm snowsl i dont know about this whole nb a2 a3 thing but i have a rev1.0 which obviously has a old northbridge and i can do 220 w/ 1.7vdd....
the issue is your northbridge cooling. i epoxied a celeron heatsink/fan onto mine. using stock i could get like 195mhz but w/ the new cooler 220 is 100% usable but i vary it up like right now i am at 217mhz etc
Go with the left one, I used it on all my mobo's and it's a great cooler.
Doesn't interfear with my Prommy coolinghead either
Looked the same, before I lapped it ;).Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
Wow...this is very surprising. I would have thought all steppings of the NB on the v1.2 to be A3. *removed for size*
How about everyone else?
Ok I'm Happy now!!:toast:
220mhz DC Sync. stable through 3D 2001 & 2003
relaxed mem timings 8-3-3-2.5 (need 3.1v)
Had to do vdd (thanks twiggy) @ 1.9v
I give the NF7-S a 9 out of 10
Only complaint are the jumps in fsb settings above 220, really would like to see 1mhz increments to 250mhz like the asus.
I think the NB stepping is the make or break here, I'm afraid to push more than 1.9v unless someone here is already above that ?
I use 1.96-1.98v on mine with the stock heatsink, it doesnt get warm at all. But thats me. :)
The fsb jumps do suck bad. :(
hey twiggy up late ! hehe
Thats good to know maybe I'll push alittle harder !
Thought I'd see what I could do in single channel with both sticks
230mhz and runs 3dmark just fine ! same timings 8-3-3-2.5
:mad: update CTD on 3dmark loop during 2nd pass, but so close !!! maybe 2v or more on NB ?
I think I might joint the party guys :D
Here are some prelimanary results of what my NF7-S is doing unmodded(except AS3 on NB - Default NB fan too)
Prime stable for 1024K, 8K and 10K tests and 896K tests(approx 1 hour);
This was run with following settings;
11*200
1.75vcore (1.72real)
2.90vdimm (2.98real)
1.6vdd (havnt found a program that records this yet)
2-6-2-2 (2-5-2-2 didnt post so I put to 2-6-2-2 and worked)
Prime Stable for 1024K, 8K and 10K tests and a few 896K tests(approx 45 mins);
10.5*210
1.75vcore (1.72real)
2.90vdimm (2.98real)
1.7vdd (havnt found a program that records this yet)
2-5-2-2
I had it at 2-6-2-2 and at 1.6vdd for the 210fsb but it rebooted after 10 prime tests. I then put it to 1.7vdd and then though bugger it ill try 2-5-2-2 again also. I was then able to prime for 45 mins at 2-5-2-2 @ 210fsb :)
http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/abit/217fsb2.jpg
and can run PCmark at this speed too
http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/abit/217fsb.jpg
But heres where I am hitting my limits.
219fsb for some strange reason doesnt post. 220 posts and then gets into windows and then the screen turns into all corruption lines like a 9700 is dead....and freezes. 225 boots me to Windows splash screen and then the bar just keeps sliding across the screen. Ive tried all different ram timings and none seem to make a difference. Im going to add a Zallmann to the NB over the weekend probably and might look at getting somerhing on the SB, not sure yet.
That was the results for the first one. It died after 4 hours.....pathetic imo...I put it at 2.20vcore and the thing wouldnt post again....pfft :mad:
2nd one is rock solid at 210 for an hour of prime while I was at Physio today. 217 primes for about 5 mins and then I get a flash of the monitor and a Windows error saying a Device has failed and I need to restart and the machine is fine.....but prime ocntinues? Wierd .....Anyways, i think Ill leave her here at 210 rock solid and put a zalmann on the NB maybe this weekend and see if that gets me 217+ stable.
The main gripe with this board, and it happens with both. I have the jumps in FSB all over the place. Im missing some in the 16x, 17x, 19x and then it gets really bad in the 200.....210, 212, 217, 219, 220, 225, 230, 235 etc etc.....very annoying and something that a CMOS clearance is not fixing.....anyone got any ideas? Maybe flash the bios again?
Major Slaughter, I give her 7/10 so far, cos 1 died on me after 4 hours, and it missing some fsb, crucial to me, I think I could get 215 stable, but I dont have it :(
Here is 217fsb Dual Channel 2-6-2-2 sandra results. Windows isnt tweaked, just 24/7 install;
http://users.bigpond.net.au/creat/abit/217.GIF
ps
havnt put the board in the Vapo yet, this is all on air on the desk :)
Entuscan, did you epoxy it down or use some other method like drilling holes in it and attaching that way?Quote:
Originally posted by Entuscan
Go with the left one, I used it on all my mobo's and it's a great cooler.
Doesn't interfear with my Prommy coolinghead either
Nice board:)
I gave up at stock out of the box though. I managed 225 4-2-2-2 but I had a Video problem. I didn't spend much time trying to lighten up on my mem timings.
I can't do 237 out of the box so thats all it takes for me to start modding and cooling, not enough Patients :)
I have to do a Review on the NF7 soon, so when I get that mobo, the review will be a play by play out the box, might as well not do it twice.
I can say this bugger is way different from the Rev 1, maybe more aggressive, which is a good thing for higher 3D scores:D
On a good note, with the extra voltage (v-core) I can do 3D03 runs at over 2930 MHz :) Also, the mem voltage is well over volted, I get 3.01 at 2.9 in the bios. I don't think I'll need a v-mem mod, we'll see.
OPP
Would that video problem be something along the lines of the screen flickering on and off intermittently? Seems that anything over 220fsb for me causes that problem. I'm not sure if that's due to lacking in the VDD department or not.
Memory voltage is fabulous...I'm getting 2.97-2.99 at 2.9 in the bios, which is great for breaking in this new Twinmos memory.
I've got mine breaking in at 200x12 right now at 1.85 volts....I may have to send it off to have someone do the VDD mod....considering these new A3 cores seem to run extremely cool.
Who knows....maybe Abit would be gracious enough to include a 1.8 and 1.9 VDD in their new bios....as well as fix those stupid jumps in the FSB *cough 212--->217?!?!?!?!* :D
Here is what my Northbridge Heatsink looks like (i have a 12cfm 50mm Fan on it as well as plently of case flow)
Pretty decent heatsink you got there....what kind of voltage you running through the core/vdd/memory? And have you tried going past the 212fsb barrier that most of us seem to have a problem with?
Well I'm back on my Asus now :rolleyes:
Aparently I have stumbled across the max voltage that the vdd can handle before getting red hot and smoldering !
I was running along fine at 2.1 vdd doing some memtest after playing with my memory settings and by the time I smelt the all too familure odor of burning componets all went blank never to return. Wish I had a digital camera cause it must have got real hot before dying.
Maybe Epox 8RGA+ next..................
Opp, what cooling are you using? Does anyone know if a chipset Waterblock and Prometeia will fit on this thing?
Emericana,Quote:
Originally posted by Emericana
Here is what my Northbridge Heatsink looks like (i have a 12cfm 50mm Fan on it as well as plently of case flow)
WOW...you must have meant PIV Celeron! BIG sink :thumbsup: Maybe I should use the larger of the 2 P3 sinks I have ;)
It really made 25 mhz difference in stable 3D? I'm really hoping so cause I'm now itching to epoxy that sucker to my Epox :D
What kind of epoxy? Arctic silver? Arctic Alumina?
I used Artic Alumnia Epoxy. I used a somewhat thick layer cause i did not have the time to lap the base of the heatsink. I installed it by pushing down on it real hard for around 10minutes. Then when it was probably about 75% set after 10mins i put a real heavy book on it.... a hour later it was ready to go.
the heatsink is real light cause it isnot copper but it still does a real good job.
in bios i have APIC DISABLED. that was the only way i could get above 166mhz in windows. yes i can get above 212mhz....
i dont use extreme voltages as i only have air cooling
vcore=1.85
vdimm=2.7 (would def pump 3.0v into the ram but i cant do the vmod)
Vdd= 1.7v
Agp= 1.6v
the vdimm is acutally around 2.8v as it overvolts but the vcore is actually around 1.82v as it undervolts :( yeah i know the vmod is easy but i dont wanna go through the hassle for around 50mhz more
Edit: the southbridge cooler is merely the copper heatsink that came w/ the vantec iceberg it is only applied using thermal tape the southbridge does not even get warm anymore so its all good
you should put up to a 5x6 WB on it ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Svenn
Opp, what cooling are you using? Does anyone know if a chipset Waterblock and Prometeia will fit on this thing?
What I mean is on my 8RDA+, with the waterblock and Prom, I had to squeeze the prom in there. Will there be any problems with that? Prom will fit fine? Not too close to anything including NB?
If I use artic silver epoxy, can I take off my heatsink in the future? or It will just stick there forever?
Just bought myself a tbredB 1700+ retails. I already have a slk800 so I'm not going to use the stock heatsink for my cpu. I'm planning to use it to cool my NB instead of just leaving it aside. Besides AS epoxy, are there any other ways to mount it on my NB? It's would be great if you can show me a pic :)
I agree with mickeymouse on that one ...
Major, nice achievement but 9 out of 10 given you had to mod the mobo? - I don't get it - what's exceptional to this board really? - most modded 8rda+ can achieve this and some do without any mod (true for the Abit too)...
Anyhow, I'll pass on that Abit and keep my 8rda+ :)
Major, yes the 8rGa+ looks like a good one...
--fibo
My problem is my 8RDA+ won't do over like 170 or 180 FSB stable without vmods... Since I have to buy a new board for my girlfriend, I figured I'd try a different board for me and give her my 8RDA+... I just need to make sure the Prom won't be a problem with the water-cooling. I've got another question, is that serial ata RAID or no? I thought when I was looking at it before it said it was, but now nothing says anything about it. I've got a RAID card but I was gonna try both and see if the serial ATA helped any with 2 converters to IDE drives...Quote:
Originally posted by fibonaccov
I agree with mickeymouse on that one ...
Major, nice achievement but 9 out of 10 given you had to mod the mobo? - I don't get it - what's exceptional to this board really? - most modded 8rda+ can achieve this and some do without any mod (true for the Abit too)...
Anyhow, I'll pass on that Abit and keep my 8rda+ :)
Major, yes the 8rGa+ looks like a good one...
--fibo
Svenn,
Sorry to hear you could not reach higher - have you tried all the tips/suggestions posted at Epox AmdForums? (Muzz has some great ones in some thread)...and it did work for quite a bit of people who could not reach high fsb's....just mentioning...
--fibo
It is SATA Raid, though you do not necessarily need to use RAID (duh.)
Its faster than IDE by a mile, and it comes with the converter so you dont need to buy anything. Only bad thing is that drivers are a bit scarce, although I have a newer set given to me by the kind folk at LostCircuits.
These are the only forums I read... so no. To be honest I didn't mess around with it as much as I'd have liked, but I did notice my cpu would run higher if I raised the mult and lowered FSB. I could only get into windows at 2600-2700 Mhz with strictly raising FSB. When I raised mult I made it into windows at 2800 Mhz easily. Couldn't bench 3dmark though.
Here we go - some info hereQuote:
Originally posted by Svenn
These are the only forums I read... so no. To be honest I didn't mess around with it as much as I'd have liked, but I did notice my cpu would run higher if I raised the mult and lowered FSB. I could only get into windows at 2600-2700 Mhz with strictly raising FSB. When I raised mult I made it into windows at 2800 Mhz easily. Couldn't bench 3dmark though.
--fibo
Thanks, most of that I've tried. I haven't done any vmods yet because I need money to buy a soldering iron... The clips I have aren't working either, they're too big. I haven't taken off the jumper yet though, so maybe I'll try that. I've got the stock nb heatsink on the southbridge and I'm water-cooling the northbridge. I have heatsinks on all the mosfets and the voltage regulator. I'll still be getting a NF7-S to play around with. Might as well if I'm buying a new board. I'll just keep the better clocking one.
http://www.liquidninjas.com/mdzcpa/r...os/NF7/225.JPGQuote:
Originally posted by fibonaccov
I don't get it - what's exceptional to this board really? - most modded 8rda+ can achieve this and some do without any mod (true for the Abit too)...
This NF7 1.2 does 225 no mods...dual channel of course.
My budddies 1.2 which arrived yesterday is burning in at 220 dual channel.
And that's Out of the box...no mods. That's exceptional....for me at least. I've been through a ton of NF2 boards (asus and epox) trying multiple boards of each band...none did very well. 1 died and I sold all the rest. They made good every day boards, but poor tweakers boards for those who like to be in the BIOS all the time.
Not only is FSB and speed important, but just the smoothness of the board. And in that department both the Epox and Asus had numerous issues. BIOS exit freezes, settings not sticking, cold and wrm boot issues, sporadic multipliers working, some mutlipliers not allowing high fsb, all sorts of weird ยงยงยงยง.
Not saying the NF7 is perfect. The early versions had a lot of trouble too. But so far the 2 1.2s I've tried have none of these issues so far. So it's hard for me to beleive it is not the better board at the moment .
It could be true that the 1.2 is just like every other NF2, but somehow I just don't get that feeling.
Well,Quote:
Originally posted by mdzcpa
[I've been through a ton of NF2 boards (asus and epox) trying multiple boards of each band...none did very well. [/B]
If by a ton, you mean 7, that's how many I've been through also... All died, and I only RMA'd one of them!
I'm currently running stable, and reliable @2949MHz. 14X210 with an 8K9A2+. But alas, it's bench performance is not up to a nforce 2... If the speed is the same.
I'm putting a lot of hope in this board for the Prome/Lian-Li Pro. After being promised one from GameVe, and being sent a Rev 1.1 (which was promptly returned, at least they gave me a full refund), My only hope is a big computer show upstate. There is supposed to be 175 tables, so I'm going to have to play Peek-a-boo, and go Rev 1.2 hunting...
Wish me luck....
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RoydRage
Where's the show at Royd?
Good luck finding the mobo at the show, Tony. By the way when I did the upgrade to 1.2 revision board, I installed the 510W PC Power & Cooling yesteday, it rocks. The pots are nothing short of outstanding (such fine adjustment, I started adjustments and looking in bios to see changes and it was like - why aren't they changing, then I realized how fine the adjustments were - and the PSU is ROCK STABLE). Thanks for your help with all that, Tony.
You'll love the 1.2 NF7-S in the Mean Machine.
Middletown... Orange County Fair Arena...Quote:
Originally posted by Jeff
Where's the show at Royd?
But OMG! not only did they not have an NF-7 S Rev 1.2.... THEY DIDN'T EVEN HAVE AN NF-7 PERIOD!
What a bunch of hicks! But then I guess I shouldn't say that... Cause I drove all the way to Yonkers Raceway to the other circuts show... And they didn't have one either! What a blip... I just have to wait till I can get one online... :(
RoydRage
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