V2000 Phase install for King Kenny

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03-22-2006, 04:30 AM
Gray Mole

V2000 Phase install for King Kenny

Right, well there's been a few delays with the control unit for this one, and even now I've had some more problems with it but I have another one on the way and should be here tomorrow.

Johann is helping me with a replacement froster Xe until I sort mine out, and it's his black 2 row condensor in there, doing a great job and looking VERY pretty :D

However the installation and gassing is all done, so I can at least show you guys what it all looks like, and how it's performing.

This used to be a mach1 system. The only thing left really is the compressor. Otherwise it's got a new black condensor and coil mod, New chilly1 evaporator and new suction line, and the control unit is a 'Golden Froster' Xe version with LCD Display. That's mounted on a 2.5mm alu plate cut and fitted to the base of the Lian Li to make sure it's got the strength to support it.

Pics...

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It's just fitted with 'seal string' at the moment until I figure out a better 'pretty' mount for the new display. I just wanted to try to avoid more holes. We'll see.

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Inside the 'black box' where the control unit and transformer live for it.

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Inside the back where the display is mounted.

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That's the box cover, slotted for airflow.

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The power plugs installed. the secondary one is for the PC's PSU. The controller operates a 'kill' for the PSU as a safety, so you use a power cable from there. I supplied one of those as well.

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From the other side...

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One very frosty 150w load tester, it's on btw ;)

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And that's the temps right now, after about an hour on the load tester, the evap and the return temps. That's on high fans, will retest tomorrow when the control unit is here and I can adjust the speed.

I used a blend again this time, and it's even better than last time. I'ts a R290/404/402a blend so that lower fans are ok for 'normal' use, and high fans for very cold benching.

Anyways, I'm pretty happy with most of it, but it's mainly the display to look at for mounting. I'm not really really happy with the plugs inside with the tape, but it's all secure and not too messy for wiring.

So that's about it til tomorrow, and I get another control unit to put on and it's finally all done :)

Cheers

Gray
03-22-2006, 04:39 AM
n00b 0f l337

Very good, King Kenny should be so happy.
03-22-2006, 04:40 AM
LukeXE

Wow, that looks great :eek:
03-22-2006, 04:49 AM
Frostologe

Very nice and clean.
03-22-2006, 04:54 AM
the_new_guy

dude ur work rocks!!
03-22-2006, 04:55 AM
Gray Mole

Thanks, I sure hope he does like it :)

I gave up after about an hour and a half on the load tester, about -44.3 or so is where it finally got down to.

I just took it off the tester and after about 10 min at no load I'm at about -55 evap and -49 return, so a fairly heavy charge but not returning liquid even at no load so I'm happy with that.

Not as cold as pure 402a for no load, but loaded it's very close to what I expect with it, so a reasonable blend I think.

I tried to use the UEI for both temps, but it's a bit quirky. using only one probe it's the same reading as the Fluke, but with both it reads about -31c on the evap, so I'll have to look at what's up with it, and whether to RMA it after all.

Cheers

Gray
03-22-2006, 05:17 AM
maverik-sg1

Nice work gray mate - if I ever make the move to one of those cases, thats the sort of job I want done ;)

Would the controller be better positioned in it's side?

Also, is the mach 2 controller a viable (cheaper) alternative?

Mav
03-22-2006, 05:35 AM
hatemi

My Tenmars thermo does that too with some probes. In my curent cascadeproject I cant masure HX in and out the same time, but both probes work nicely with the evap temp probe and by them selves :D

Nice unit BTW :P
03-22-2006, 05:38 AM
Fhqwhgads6680

wow man...soooo clean AND good performance...nicely done, and good work on that blend, seems to be working out well :) Keep up the awesome work man!

Brandon J
03-22-2006, 05:44 AM
Gray Mole

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverik-sg1

Nice work gray mate - if I ever make the move to one of those cases, thats the sort of job I want done ;)

Would the controller be better positioned in it's side?

Also, is the mach 2 controller a viable (cheaper) alternative?

Mav

The mount of the control box isn't permanent at the moment so it's a possibility really. I just wasn't sure about space issues, and the cover still works well and is removable. So not sure yet, it may get 'adjusted' :D

For the Mach2 controller it's definitely not a cheaper option when you have to buy display, controller, and probe along with wiring it. The froster is a very good system, I've just had some bad luck on this one.

If I had to chose between the mach controller and this, it would be Froster every day of the week :D but if it would have been a mach2, I'd have used the mach controller as it will read lower temps. It's just the Mach1 that's an 'issue' after a mod.

Yeah Hatemi it does seem like some of the readers have strange issues. This UEI works well enough with one or the other probe, but goes crazy with 2. No big deal really.

I've bought a T probe Digitron reader as well, and when I get some T probes for it, I may send the UEI away to get tested.

Gray
03-22-2006, 05:48 AM
boardy

Quote:

Originally Posted by maverik-sg1

Nice work gray mate - if I ever make the move to one of those cases, thats the sort of job I want done ;)

Would the controller be better positioned in it's side?

Also, is the mach 2 controller a viable (cheaper) alternative?

Mav

Well look who popped his head in the Phase section :D The mach controller isn't really an easy option as you need to get new probes for it, but if you can get the right one and get a control unit then I don't see any reason why you couldn't use it.

Lovely work there Gray as always. Just a shame about those controllers after the time it's taken to come through customs :(

Boardy

Edit: Gray beat me to the mach answer, doh lol.
03-22-2006, 07:10 AM
Thickbrit

Nice work m8,i believe we have a similar taste in probes and you are gonna have to teach me how to make that coil,its stunning.
03-22-2006, 08:19 AM
MeltedDuron

wow gray... that is absolutely amazing :toast: can't wait to see what you do with my vapo and cheiftec!
03-22-2006, 08:49 AM
fatty

Great work old chap :D
03-22-2006, 08:58 AM
Comp-Freak

Nice job there! Someday, when I have a lot of money... :D
03-22-2006, 11:05 AM
jinu117

Nice work... especially on froster control board. Is there any airflow inside the thing? :)
03-22-2006, 11:13 AM
Gray Mole

Thanks everyone.

Hey Jinu, thought you'd come in and comment :D you ARE the best at this after all :toast: Yeah, that's the slots on the front and back of the 'black box' cover. They're not huge, but being in front of the fans there's a nice airflow through the box. It's an alu box as well so 'sheds' any heat that's in there as well.

I'd seriously thought about replacing the heatsink with a 'shim' and bolting the froster to the box itself for the heatsink but figured it was ok the way I did it.

It's worked out well though, even with full speed fans there's no 'wind rush' from the close proximity of the black box, so I'm happy with that part of it :)

Cheers

Gray
03-22-2006, 04:05 PM
Sub zero

Tell you what mate your work kicks ass now.

P.S thanks for fixing the chiller:D
03-22-2006, 04:34 PM
SoddemFX

Nice work there Gray :)

You're very good with these V2000's! :D

Why do you insulate the service port?

Tom
03-22-2006, 06:23 PM
Gray Mole

Heya Scorch!

No probs, glad I could fix that chiller for ya :D took a little extra time to get it so I was happy, but it should do the job on those new gpu's :woot:

Mr. Soddem :D thanks I really enjoyed it. I'm glad people are liking the install, I suppose all I really see are the flaws, not the pretty stuff, but that's like anything i suppose :rolleyes:

I really only put the insulation on the access to hide it to be honest. It's an 'ugly bit' and the insulation blends it in a little. I like the look, I think it was Unseen I saw do it first and thought it looked great :D

Cheers

Gray
03-23-2006, 07:07 AM
johann

Gray, amazing is all I can say!
03-23-2006, 07:51 AM
yngndrw

That is truly amazing.

I guess you insulated the discharge line to make it blend in aswell ? What are the discharge temps at the compressor though ? I worry about that TBH.
03-23-2006, 07:56 AM
Carlz0r

Heh. I mounted my G-Froster LCD with sealstring too :p: Looking amazing like always Gray. BTW, did you ever end up getting those resistors you won on ebay?
03-23-2006, 03:07 PM
Gray Mole

Just thought I'd say that I got a new controller for the Xe froster kit and it's perfect now :)

I'd like to thank Johann for supplying it on short notice :D he's the best UK guy for phase parts for sure :woot:

I'd like to also thank Ssilencer and Golden Eagle for all the help and support with the Frosters, you guys are amazing :woot:

I'll have to get some pics of it running, I just want to resecure the thermal probe as it's a little slow and I think it's not getting great contact, then I'll get some pics of the display too :D cos it's pretty :fact:

Oh and Carlzor...umm oops I totally forgot:slap: , yes got those resistors, will PM you and sort you out with a few lol

Cheers

Gray
03-23-2006, 05:12 PM
pazza316

Nice work Grey!