Team Xtreem 2x512MB DDR500 UTT-BH5 OCing Report - 2 sets tested -> SPi32M @ 279MHz!!!

Supthere XSers :D

I'm sure that those of you keeping track of what happens in Xtreme Bandwidth, noticed a new (or not so new) kid on the XS block - TeamGroup. Almost a month ago, s7e9h3n gave us his first look into PC4000 UTT-BH5 but those were provided directly by TeamGroup. Other memory manufacturers (OCZ, Mushkin, G.Skill, Corsair, etc) do that as well so this is nothing new. In those cases there's always talk about hand-picking and questions if ocing results from retail kits will match those previewed. Unfortunately, at this moment availability in US is "not quite there yet" but dogsx2, one of the XS members managed to order 2 kits from ComputerGiants, which were then delivered to him by TeamResearch Inc. Soon after, he asked me to do other XS'ers a favor and run an OCing Report on both of them. Apparently, he just did not have enough time or patience, or both :) But let's not forget to give it up to him for making this OCing Report possible :clap:

After this short introduction, let's get going, shall we? :cool:

Below, are the 2 sets I'm gonna be playing with, packaged and ready. Honestly, I really like this packaging - it's small, modules fit tightly and it feels more secure than standard plastic handler.

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_1.jpg

Here, all 4 modules. As you can see, serial number is the same on both modules from each kit. I will be testing those in pairs, just like it's assumed. No each-stick-separate type of testing here...

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_2.jpg

For this OCing Report, I'm gonna be testing stability with: SuperPi Mod1.5 32M, Memtest For Windows, SP2004. At this moment I'm without "capable" video card (back to R7000 PCI for now :(), so no 3D benchmarks. Also, I decided to test both kits at x10 multiplier in case there are voices that divider might impair IMC's ability to clock RAM higher ;) I have a headache from those slow CPU clocks and painfully long 32M times :lol:


Part I

Dual kit #20050016641


SPi32M @ 250x10=2500MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 260x10=2600MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T

Memtest For Windows, 600%/60mins @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T

90 mins SP2004 LargeFFT 900MB used @ 270x10=2700MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T


This kit, was pretty much a very smooth ride. Rated DDR500 was achieved with 3.2v in BIOS (3.24v w/DMM). Pretty "tight" all the way up to 265MHz. I had to go TWTR=2 for SPi to complete @ 270Mhz and voltage needed was 3.70 + 0.03v (3.76 w/DMM). Unfortunately, I was not able to complete 32M @ 271MHz. Relaxing timmings and 3.8v in BIOS did not help at this moment.


Update #1: SPi32M @ 272Mhz from every possible angle :lol:

SPi32M @ 272x10=2720MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 300x10=3000MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 327x10=3270MHz DDR544 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Update #2: SPi1M @ 277Mhz

SPi1M @ 277x10=2770MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi1M @ 333x10=3330MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Update #3: SPi32M @ 275 & 276MHz :fact:

SPi32M @ 276x10=2760MHz DDR552 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 303x10=3030MHz DDR550 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 330x10=3300MHz DDR550 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10


Update #4: SPi32M @ 277MHz (same RAM clock as OPB's) :toast:

SPi32M @ 277x10=2770MHz DDR554 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 332x10=3320MHz DDR552 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Update #5: SPi32M @ 279MHz (from every possible angle, again) :D

SPi32M @ 279x10=2790MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 279x10=2790MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T ---> Photos: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14

SPi32M @ 307x10=3070MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 335x10=3350MHz DDR558 5-2-2-2.0-1T


Dual kit #20050016637


SPi32M @ 250x10=2500MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 260x10=2600MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-1T

SPi32M @ 268x10=2680MHz DDR536 5-2-2-2.0-1T

Memtest For Windows, 627%/67mins @ 267x10=2670MHz DDR534 5-2-2-2.0-1T

90 mins SP2004 LargeFFT 900MB used @ 265x10=2650MHz DDR540 5-2-2-2.0-1T


This set, is slightly weaker. It required a bit more voltage to reach DDR500 and it got a bit rocky above 267MHz. For SPi32M to pass @ 268MHz I had to relax timmings slightly and 3.7v (3.74v w/DMM) was needed for that. I really troed to hit that magic "270MHz" mark but it was just not happening. Memtest For windows started producing errors @ 268Mhz just after 10% mark.

I hope I will be able to play a little bit more with those sets throughout the weekend, I will try to work on some 1M calculations and Pifast as well for those of you "sprint-junkies" :p:


Part II

Dual kit #20050016641 + #20050016637

http://www.clockmehigh.com/cooler/sc...2M500HC2_3.jpg


SPi32M @ 300x10=3000MHz DDR500 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 312x10=3120MHz DDR520 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 318x10=3180MHz DDR530 5-2-2-2.0-2T


Update1: SPi32M @ 266Mhz

SPi32M @ 266x10=2660MHz DDR532 5-2-2-2.0-2T

SPi32M @ 320x10=3200MHz DDR532 5-2-2-2.0-2T


Conclusion


I have personally played with 4 kits of 2x512MB UTT-BH5 and 2 kits of UTT-CH5. Based on that, plus results from other OCers around, I will say that one set turned out to be quite impressive (very stable 270MHz) and the other, about average. That's OCers life, right? :lol: I would imagine this dual kit is not going to be available in large quantities as there is not much time left to still sell enthusiast 2x512MB DDR RAM - Socket AM2 is just around the corner. But if availability in US gets better within next few weeks there will still be a chance to bank on it.

Thanks again to dogsx2 and to all of you guys for dropping by :toast:
Enjoy :peace:

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings.
Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure.

Can you run some 3D with yours?

Nice review. I would pick up a set but benching ram is not a reality for me so I'm thinking about settling for some PC4000 Cronus 2gig. Team has done some very nice things with oc'ing since they hit the scene.

OPB's thought;)

What can I say bro? :D I think the Xtreme Pi Freak / UberMod said it all:D

With that Opty 146 doing that performance, I would say it's fair enough; there is no doubt about Michael 's OC perspective and skill. Just wondering how Michael set the strength up under bios? That would be highly appreciate if you can share with us that information.


OPB

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Originally Posted by RAMMIE

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings.
Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure.

Can you run some 3D with yours?

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Here's some 3d with my set:
14x270
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...aker/46855.jpg

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...0/19007-03.jpg

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

I've personally had some nice experience with Team TCCD before, and as far as hearing from people here in XS, looks like these UTT-BH5 yields as good as the now unavailable Mushkin UTT-CH5. Guess this will be people's last chance to buy themselves a nice pair of UTT-BH5. ;)

Thanks for sharing your valuble test results with us. :toast:

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

Here's some 3d with my set:
14x270
http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...aker/46855.jpg

http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/uploa...0/19007-03.jpg

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

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I believe, but you are...
Cheater..:banana3: :CTF: :horse:
you are cheating about 2 fsb there:D

** forgot to tell one thing, for those who just can't do over 270fsb,
that'd be steve's pair is heatspreader off, that why I just hate those eye-candy.

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

I believe, but you are...
Cheater..:banana3: :CTF: :horse:
you are cheating about 2 fsb there:D

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I really didn't remember what EXACT fsb I was running so I used some math skills I learned in 2nd grade - 3781/14= 270.0714285.......:slap: :p:

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info on the Team Reseach TXDR1024M500HC2DC from ComputerGiant.

EDIT: Fixed Link. Sorry.:slash:

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Originally Posted by RAMMIE

I got set 2x512 PC4000 BH-5 from ComputerGiants 1 week past.This kit does 270 with FX 57 or Opty 175 SuperPi 32m or Prime just fine.Won't do 3D over 245 no matter what settings. Tried in Ultra-d,Expert and Sapphire pure. Can you run some 3D with yours?

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Unfortunately (as I mentioned above) I will not be able to give you any 3D results at this moment. But I must admit, what you're experiencing it's quite odd... :shrug:

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Originally Posted by Cpt Twitchy

Nice review.

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Thanks :toast:

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Originally Posted by Onepagebook

With that Opty 146 doing that performance, I would say it's fair enough; there is no doubt about Michael 's OC perspective and skill. Just wondering how Michael set the strength up under bios? That would be highly appreciate if you can share with us that information.

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Thanks, Kevin :) As to your question... ALL of the completed results, from both sets, were done with Drive & Data Strength set @ AUTO/AUTO :) After I reached max SPi32M (268 & 270) I tried all of the combinations, from 4/1 to 8/3, haha! It does not seem to do anything good at all...

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Originally Posted by s7e9h3n

@ Bachus - You a believer yet? ;)

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Haha, it has not really been about believing or not. I just want to ensure that people know what to expect when buying RAM. The more results the better ;) But I have a strong feeling that its a limited amount of those sets that are capable of ~275MHz in 32M. Just like wiith any other brand of modules based on UTT-BH5...

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Originally Posted by formyfaith

Guess this will be people's last chance to buy themselves a nice pair of UTT-BH5. ;) Thanks for sharing your valuble test results with us. :toast:

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True! As far as I've seen, at the moment only G.Skill and TeamGroup have UTT still available for purchase.

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info (...)

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On my and dogsx2 behalf, no problem. Fred made it possible :up:

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I'm still working on those modules, as we speak... I'm gonna have some "extras" coming up soon ;)

Nice Tests Bachus!

my Team pc4000 is in arrive. :)

luigi

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Originally Posted by gigi77

Nice Tests Bachus! my Team pc4000 is in arrive. :)
luigi

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Thanks Luigi :) Let us know about your results, please.

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Taaadaammm!!! Part II added ;)

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Haha, it has not really been about believing or not. I just want to ensure that people know what to expect when buying RAM. The more results the better ;) But I have a strong feeling that its a limited amount of those sets that are capable of ~275MHz in 32M. Just like wiith any other brand of modules based on UTT-BH5...

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Mine haven't even run 275Mhz 32M.......yet ;)

As always, your the best when it comes to testing ram and documenting it. I really want to thank you for the time and effort it took to test them. Adding the 4 sticks was great. Thanks

fred

Nice tests B_A :)

Will do some testing with my kit today/tomorrow. Try to get 275MHz 32M :D

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Originally Posted by gundamit

Thanks to dogsx2 and bachus_anonym for sharing info on the Team Reseach TXDR1024M400HC2DC from ComputerGiant.

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Hmm i almost did a mistake becuse of your link.. dont link to pc3200 sticks :stick:

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Originally Posted by Lastviking

Hmm i almost did a mistake becuse of your link.. dont link to pc3200 sticks :stick:

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Didn't $135.99 tell you these can't be pc4000's? Or was that what told you these can't be pc4000's?

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Originally Posted by dogsx2

Didn't $135.99 tell you these can't be pc4000's? Or was that what told you these can't be pc4000's?

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TXDR1024M400HC2DC
New Team Reseach Overclocked Extreme Memory 1GB PC3200 DDR400MHz Great For Gaming - Gamers extreme memory to maximize your game performance

If you click on the link, yes the price is to low but if someone is in hury to buy the pc4000 sticks and see the link they can miss that, the sticks in the link is pc3200.

Whoops. I screwed the pooch. Sorry. Link fixed.

AWESOME RESULTS!! i need to keep an eye on Team Xtreem and my bank balance, see which outweighs the other :D

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Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

As far as I've seen, at the moment only G.Skill and TeamGroup have UTT still available for purchase.

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your forgetting Centon and OCZ, Centon has some pc4000 and pc3200 UTT out and OCZ has the GX and XTC pc3200 and pc3500 stuff out.

Nice results youve got there Bachus. :toast: I'll be getting two sets of Teamgroup, the pc4800 tccd and the pc3200 utt, in next week for testing from tankguys. I hope my results are as good as yours, I'll be posting them.

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Originally Posted by CCUABIDExORxDIE

your forgetting Centon and OCZ, Centon has some pc4000 and pc3200 UTT out and OCZ has the GX and XTC pc3200 and pc3500 stuff out.

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and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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he said gskill?

edit: i gotta learn to not show you your mistakes.

Nice review :P

Would DRR600 4x512 2-2-2-5-2T kick DDR600 2x1G 3-3-3-8 in teh arse?:p:

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Originally Posted by ozzimark

and g.skill GH ;)

edit: i gotta learn to read :slapass: :stick:

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I afraid that Teamgroup got newer and ... than GH and I assume they might just almost running out of that IC;) AFAIK 90%;)