Buy your Opty's while you can, AMD code change:

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11-10-2005, 02:30 PM
phadeout

Buy your Opty's while you can, AMD code change:

I just got off the phone with a source (It's a retailer who I know very well). He just talked to an AMD distributor and it seems the part codes on the 939 pin Opterons are going to change.

Supposedly, this always happens when there are Core changes (san diego, venice etc).

This may mean that AMD doesn't like us using all their 939 Opty's for overclocking, and will be changing them from their FX-57 roots and unlocked multi's.... But who really knows for sure :confused:

It wouldn't surprise me if the golden age of sweet opterons will change soon with these part numbers....
11-10-2005, 03:05 PM
racinjimy

as always, you must get in early to get the good stuff.................
11-10-2005, 03:05 PM
Dumo

If only changing #s then all its ok.
11-10-2005, 03:08 PM
TEDY

why would AMD bother? They sell all line excellent

144/146/148/150/165

they all pretty much out of stock all the places.
11-10-2005, 03:34 PM
Haltech

I seriously doubt were a killing distribution to OEMs. Believe me, we make up about a 1% of the total CPUs sold world wide.
11-10-2005, 03:45 PM
uOpt

Quote:

Originally Posted by phadeout

This may mean that AMD doesn't like us using all their 939 Opty's for overclocking, and will be changing them from their FX-57 roots and unlocked multi's.... But who really knows for sure :confused:

But they have locked multipliers :confused:
11-10-2005, 03:59 PM
phadeout

Opty's are unlocked "downwards" only.

Who knows, maybe with the part number changes they will make the 939 opty's more like X2's...

Just thought I'd let you guys know about the part number changes is all, for better or worse...

Maybe it is just the Memory Controller they are changing?
11-10-2005, 05:54 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEDY

why would AMD bother? They sell all line excellent

144/146/148/150/165

they all pretty much out of stock all the places.

their A64 line is hurting
11-10-2005, 05:57 PM
003

Wow I feel lucky, my 165 came in the mail today, good thing I didnt wait!
11-10-2005, 06:44 PM
zenzog

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

their A64 line is hurting

How so?
We've bought plenty of A64's and FX's before Opty's came out :p

Chances are the average user doesn't consider Opterons before regular A64's yet.
11-10-2005, 06:50 PM
fullup3

Yea, I would think that the extremist community would do nothing but help the sale of a product by producing a worldwide hype that will boost sales. Especially with the opteron.
11-10-2005, 07:21 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by zenzog

How so?
We've bought plenty of A64's and FX's before Opty's came out :p

Chances are the average user doesn't consider Opterons before regular A64's yet.

if you look at wanted to buy section at OCAU..........almost everyone is being told about Opterons and every sale that was supposed to go A64 ends up going Opteron instead because of overclocking potential
11-10-2005, 07:49 PM
RickDe

:woot: Makes me happy I have 4 - 144 optys just sitting here.
11-10-2005, 11:10 PM
TEDY

their a64 line? don't know about other countries but here in my country a64 systems sell is great.
11-11-2005, 12:02 AM
s e t h

i think amd released these amazing opterons for the hype we would create.
the hype over the normal desktop core took them from 15% to 50% marketshare in USA retail in about a year and a half.
now they're using us to hype the opterons in the hope the corporates will hear all the noise thus causing a rise in AMD's marketshare there.

i know they'd rather sell opterons to corporates than venices to us
they make huge profits in that sector and their market penetration needs plenty of work.

and lets remember that very often a core revision can be very benificial to overclockers. otherwise we might still be running 486's :D
11-11-2005, 12:34 AM
aMp

Large companies don't base their buying decisions on the opinions of guys who use liquid nitrogen to overclock. They base them on total cost of ownership, performance per watt, supplier reliability, etc. (And if AMD is to be believed, a fear that Intel will screw them over if they dare to go green.) These guys do their homework, and AMD knows it. There's no bait-and-switch going on here.

-aMp-
11-11-2005, 12:45 AM
s e t h

um if they did their homework they'd all be running opterons already
they behave more like sheep
they're not going to recommend a cpu their boss has never heard of for fear of their jobs
11-11-2005, 01:59 AM
largon

I suspect the new single core OPN will be...

OSA1??DKA5CF
11-11-2005, 04:55 AM
Jochenp

Why would a code change be negative? If I remember correctly, that happend when Winchester became Venice, and that stuff.
Seems good to me!
I don't think they would change the core of the opterons, just to stop us from overclocking em like mad.
11-11-2005, 05:26 AM
high5

Quote:

Originally Posted by TEDY

their a64 line? don't know about other countries but here in my country a64 systems sell is great.

same here. opterons are pretty much out of reach (both pricing- & availability-wise) for most ppl in our region.
11-11-2005, 07:29 AM
Rickster_64

There are no plans for another Rev. before 65nm are there? Such as D0 to E3/E4???
11-11-2005, 07:46 AM
zenzog

Quote:

Originally Posted by dinos22

if you look at wanted to buy section at OCAU..........almost everyone is being told about Opterons and every sale that was supposed to go A64 ends up going Opteron instead because of overclocking potential

Everyone is being told here about Opterons, at [H]ardforum, at Anandtech... probably at every enthusiast forum. Still, it shouldn't make too much of a difference as most resellers are OOS and AMD controls the distribution. If they didn't want the word to get out and cause competition with their other line, they could've (and still can) do something about it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Haltech

I seriously doubt were a killing distribution to OEMs. Believe me, we make up about a 1% of the total CPUs sold world wide.

Uh.. my message is too short so I'm going to add three characters...
11-11-2005, 07:50 AM
Gadflyii

hmm... hope they don't mess them up..... I love my Opetons :)
11-11-2005, 08:19 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by largon

I suspect the new single core OPN will be...

OSA1??DKA5CF

My guess would be the same ;) (If, if in fact, the rumor the OP heard was true.)
IMO, the s939 Opterons were a means for AMD to rid themselves of the remaining E4 (San Diego) cores before moving production to dual core dies. Once all the E4 single cores are depleted, they either would discontinue the s939 Opteron line or transition the OPN to the E6 OSA1??DKA5CF as largon stated above.
Oh btw, sometimes there are changes to the OPN that actually have little to do with the type of core:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6572/x24gd.jpg
11-11-2005, 01:08 PM
largon

It seems every retailer for example in germany are OOS. Maybe AMD ran out of E4 silicon already. ETA's are like 2 weeks...
:para:

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