146+DFI+TCCD= I give up! Help!!

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10-28-2005, 07:32 PM
WesM63

146+DFI+TCCD= I give up! Help!!

Ok I'm about to pull my hair out. (i'm sure afireinside is right beside me with all my questions).

Rig is in sig, only thing thats changed is Opty 146. I'm using Bios 6-23 (d/l from dfi's website).

I'm almost positive I have TCCD ram, OCZ EL Plat Rev2 Pc-3200.

Here is where things get funky. If I put ram in Orange slots I can't change mem timings in bios, only in A64 Tweaker. I'm also maxed out at 245mhz at any divider, timing ect. If I put ram in Yellow Slots I can change timings in BIOS but not in A64 Tweaker. I'm still playing with max mem freq in these slots.

So does anyone have any help for me here? I can try some 3700EB, just don't have time to go get it tonight.
10-28-2005, 07:51 PM
mucker

Hey Wes,

I have a 146 with DFI nF4 Ultra-D and 2x512 Mushkin TCC5 on brainpower.
I tried the 704-2bta with the yellow and orange and it wasn't good for me.

Here are my current settings:

BIOS Settings - 623-3 official orange slots
939 Opteron 146 CABYE 0536 GPMW

CPU Vcore 1.375 x 104% = 1.376 (cpuz)
250 HTT x 10
LDT x 4
PCIex: 100
DDR500
LDT v = 1.3
Chipset v = 1.6
Vddr: 2.80v
Command rate: 1T
Tcl: 2.5
Trcd: 3
Tras: 5
Trp: 3
Trc: 7
Trfc: 12
Trrd: 3
Twr: 3
Twtr: 2
Trtw: 3
Tref: 3072
Twcl: 1
Bank int.: Enable

Skew control: Auto, 0
Drive strength: 7
Data strength: 2
Max. Async Lat: 8ns
DRAM response time: normal
Read Preamble: 6ns
Idle Cycle: 256
Dyn. Counter: disable/disable
R/W Bypass: 8x
Bypass Max: 4x
32Bit Gran.: disable/disable

GL

m :)
10-29-2005, 12:22 AM
Zeus

I'd say reflash the bios, something must have gone wrong since you can't change memsettings from bios.

I use 623-3 and my TCCD does rather good in my Ultra-d with an opti 146.

300+ MHz from the RAM is no problem.
10-29-2005, 04:11 AM
WesM63

Thanks guys, I'll give it a try.
10-29-2005, 07:08 AM
WesM63

This thing keeps getting odder. Now after putting ram back in orange slots I can't use A64 tweaker. Back to changing timings in bios. :confused:

That and I have no clue what to change em too. Mucker, you settings resulted in no boot.
10-29-2005, 08:02 AM
Jack

did you already lower your ltd multiplier?
And / or raised the ltd or chipset voltage?
10-29-2005, 08:11 AM
eva2000

try 510-2FIX bios :)

i.e. 2x512MB Patriot PC3200XBL TCCD

http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-32m_tn.jpg
10-29-2005, 08:14 AM
WesM63

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jack

did you already lower your ltd multiplier?
And / or raised the ltd or chipset voltage?

Yes. Same results.

Eva, cool I'll give it a shot. (if I can find it)

I'm running memtest right now at 2502mhz 3-4-4-8.
10-29-2005, 08:33 AM
Zeus

eva2000, don't make me break out some screenies.. :D

Wes, did you try to put your old cpu back to see what happens?
10-29-2005, 08:37 AM
WesM63

Zues,
I had the same problem with the old cpu. :confused: AFI and I played with it and I just gave up b/c I was waiting on this cpu.

I'm playing with memtest now so I don't fubar my windows install. Right now i'm running 166 divider and 255htt for 2551mhz which is higher than i've been. 20min no errors right now at 3-4-4-8.
10-29-2005, 11:42 AM
WesM63

Ok as weird as my board is, i have it at 2.8ghz. 150max mem, 280htt. Vcore may be higher than needed i dunno for sure. I just set it there and left it.

I had to change everything In the bios manually to get it to go this high. I have alot of tweaking to do but i'm happy I have one that does at least 2.8ghz. :)

http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/2800.jpg
10-29-2005, 11:48 AM
Zeus

Keep an eye on the temps, i see 57C after your run, what was it during your Pi run?

Try to improve on the cooling part, these CPU's have potential. ;)
10-29-2005, 02:27 PM
WesM63

Zues,
Yep, i'm ordering a TT BT here soon to hold me over till my Mach I gets fixed.

Anywase, I played with the above settings for a while. Did a 32m sPI run and got 29min. Now, I did shut off D2OL and my temps went down, I'm seeing 53c load during 32m sPI.

However, I was like hmm wonder if I can do 280x10 1:1...
http://www.needmoreboost.com/wes/280011.jpg

w00t. I'm happy. I'll try 32m sPI along with 10x290 here soon too. As you can see temps are @53c. Tomorrow I'll nock the vcore down if I can.
10-29-2005, 05:08 PM
Dave_Sz

Quote:

Originally Posted by mucker

CPU Vcore 1.425 x 113% = 1.552v (cpuz)

It's at 1.61-1.62, not what cpu-z says. Use a multimeter and you'll see that what you set the BIOS to is almost EXACTLY what the chip gets.
10-29-2005, 06:46 PM
mucker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave_Sz

It's at 1.61-1.62, not what cpu-z says. Use a multimeter and you'll see that what you set the BIOS to is almost EXACTLY what the chip gets.

Is that a safe place to be? I have 50C max load with an XP-90 (2900rpm, 92mm fan)...where are the physical locations for measurement on an DFI nF4 Ultra-D? thx...
10-29-2005, 07:08 PM
corvus_corax

Here:
http://xtremesystems.org/forums/show...631#post777631

My DFI overvolts very little (+0.005V) but i've saw other DFI boards with more overvolt. So, if you set in BIOS 1.6V or more is convenient have in mind the overvolt in DFI.
10-29-2005, 07:50 PM
mucker

Thank you!
10-30-2005, 11:54 AM
da-key

Memory Database :fact:

Not 100% up to date but pretty good.