Has anyone heard anything about the 65NM process yet? I haven't seen anything significant yet about when it supposedly to come out.
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Has anyone heard anything about the 65NM process yet? I haven't seen anything significant yet about when it supposedly to come out.
Intel is converting one of their fabs to 65, it should be completed by next year.
AMD's new 65nm facility (Fab36) is already up and running but production isn't yet in commercial scale. It takes some time to get the machines tuned. At it's worst, 65nm A64 cpu's will kick in soon after Intel goes 65nm late this year. I'd love to see those little green 65nm stones before the blue ones...
The worst thing people at AMD can imagine is that they are overrun by Intel - again - like it was when Intel got 90nm out first.
But WORSE :devil:Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Intel is always first to a new process. They spend enough on fabs to make sure no one even has a chance at it. Currently Intel is saying first 65nm chips will be Q1 2006, with febuary being tossed around as the launch date for Yonah (which will be the cheapest/simplist 65nm core).Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
This is the driving force for revision of all current textbooks in microelectronics fabrication.
Do you think the socket M2 will be out before AMD hits 65nm?
yes
I wonder if AMD will create a FX 59 in the 90 and 65 nm process flavors.
FX-59 will strictly be a San Diego core ;)
It won't be San Diego in any way, because it will have a new DDR-2 memory controller.
FX-59 will be San Diego ;)
could you explain why you think that, or give the source of your "conclusion"Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Thanks
Instead of SOI, 65nm will use silicone. *cough* :banana:
Vapor
Why would AMD release a new chip before M2 comes out? Single-core leadership was gained with FX-55 and FX-57 is, by far, the fastest single-core chip on the market right now in the target area - games.
AMD could probably produce an FX-59 on 0.09 San Diego core but why bother.
jahjahbinks
silicone's for boobs, silicon's for chips.
65nm would be nice for 939..
PS it is lowercase n not N...
U didn't get my joke *cough*, did u? :D
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=451
That was after a lot of coughing, now I need some water. :cool:
I did I just didn't think it was funny...
Sorry if I offended anyone, priv msg me and I will be glad to take it out.
It's pretty much been confirmed that FX-59 will be a San Diego by an XIP who knows his stuff and M2 won't be around for awhile, you better believe that there's gonna be another single core product between now and then.
The FX59 will be out well before 65nm. You don't have to have industry contacts to know that. They'll launch it no later then Intel launches their 65nm chips to steal some of the thunder.
and if we are lucky AMD will beat Intel to the punch with superior process....
I read somewhere that when choosing a smaller manufacturing process like the upcoming 65nm, the production costs actually goes down... how can this be? The error margin must be bigger, development costs goes up etc. Does the smaller technology require less raw material or something? ;) Like I said, I just read it somewhere and got curious...
lets just say you can go from a 90nm process to a 45nm process... each chip takes up 1/4 the space meaning that you can make atleast 4 times as many chips from the same wafer... even if you lose twice as many chips... The cost of production is 1/2 as much as to make a 90nm chip.
Plus the smaller the process the less heat it puts out unless you are intel....
Which is what Overclockers like... Hence you can sell it at a highier price..
They win both ways...
ok, thanks for the explanation