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12-06-2002, 01:06 AM
Pedant

Joining Pins

Hi,
I have been trying to unlock my Palomino for a day or so with no success, I am now fed up and want to try and take another approach.
Is it possible to connect the pins on the bottom of the CPU together to unlock it?
I have an XP1700+ on an nForce. It wants more speed but the FSB won't go past 157 Mhz so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
12-06-2002, 03:28 AM
Tweaked!

Ok well, heere's a couple links to descriptions on how to unlock. Not sure if this is what you're looking for, but I figured it wouldn't hurt;)

http://www.hardwarezone.com/news/new...id=10&aid=8452

http://www.phlux.co.uk/articles.php?aid=26

Hope this helps:)

Btw,
Welcome to Xtreme!:D
12-06-2002, 09:49 AM
Stangfrk

Re: Joining Pins

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedant
Hi,
I have been trying to unlock my Palomino for a day or so with no success, I am now fed up and want to try and take another approach.
Is it possible to connect the pins on the bottom of the CPU together to unlock it?
I have an XP1700+ on an nForce. It wants more speed but the FSB won't go past 157 Mhz so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.

I have not done this, but I did read on a post somewhere that you CAN connect the pins on the bottom of the chip. It was a nice article with pictures and all. I'll try to find it again for you.

Stangfrk
12-06-2002, 10:12 AM
Stangfrk

Try this article, I hope it helps!

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2002/amd/...ocktbredp1.htm

Stangfrk
12-06-2002, 12:12 PM
felix88

i believe connecting the pins only works on tbreds. i could be mistaken.
12-06-2002, 02:01 PM
Nomad

Yeh, connecting pins on the bottom of the cpu will not work with a Palamino core.

But as always, I could be mislead or mistaken.

Nomad :toast:
12-06-2002, 10:00 PM
Pedant

I was wondering whether anyone had gone back and looked ath the Palomino? Surely these bridges correspond to pins?
12-06-2002, 10:05 PM
felix88

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedant
I was wondering whether anyone had gone back and looked ath the Palomino? Surely these bridges correspond to pins?

if this was the case, i'm sure people would have been modding their $100 motherboards instead of their $200 processors.
12-07-2002, 12:50 AM
Pedant

Actually, aren't there golden sockets?
12-07-2002, 10:36 PM
Pedant

Okay, updated the bios and now I can get 11.5 times. Any ideas?
12-07-2002, 11:34 PM
felix88

Quote:

Originally posted by Pedant
Actually, aren't there golden sockets?

they existed, but good luck finding one as they were very rare.

Quote:

Okay, updated the bios and now I can get 11.5 times. Any ideas?

wait, you can get the stock 11 multiplier and the 11.5? it sounds like something is unlocked.

there is a lot of info on this page about all amd chips. courtesy of candjac. ;)
12-08-2002, 02:19 AM
CodeRed

Pedant
You need to join the L1 bridges on a pally. The following diagram explains how the multiplier signals are handled on a pally (for each bit):

http://users.tpg.com.au/spark69/multipliers.GIF

As you can see from the diagram if the L1 bridges are open then there is no connection from the CPU pins to the internal multiplier circuitry. Once these connections are made it is then possible to mod the multiplier via the CPU pins.

Note: L3/l4/l10 bridges are used to control the individual mults on a pally. See here for an explaination. (The diagram only shows L3 as an example)

Edit : Should pay closer attention :(
12-08-2002, 03:42 AM
Pedant

It isn't stable at more than 1.7Ghz I have found. at 1694 Mhz it is stable as hot as it has got ;) at 1.73Ghz it isn't stable and 1.77 or 1.8 Ghz it isn't stable at all. I think it needs a bit more voltage and have located a chip on the motherboard which looks the candidate. I really want to adjust the I/O voltage adjuster as I want to try and squeeze as much as I can out of the onboard graphics :) - I can't find a suitable chip though :( . Does anyone know what I ought to be looking for. Any reference nForce I/O chips or typical MSI ones?