MSI Neo2 - can't get 1.85 volts!

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02-02-2005, 12:32 PM
Monarch

MSI Neo2 - can't get 1.85 volts!

Here are my system specs:

MSI K8N Neo 2 Platinum (nForce 3 chipset), 1.36b BIOS.
AMD Athlon64 3000+ (Wichester 90nm) @ 2496 Mhz (~4200+) @ 1.75v 18.3+%) @ 312 Mhz HTT/FSB @ 8x Multiplier @ 3x HTT Multiplier.
Zalman 7700 CU heatsink, CPU idle temp = 35 C, load temp = 60C C, system idle temp = 27 C, load temp = 37 C.
4 Vantec Stealh case fans in the case (27cfm, quiet).
2x512 Mb PQI Turbo (not TCCD/TCCC) Dual Channel DDR RAM @ 208 Mhz FSB (2:3 divider) @ 2.5-3-3-9-1T @ 2.6v.
Sapphire ATi Radeon 9800 Pro 128 Mb modded/flashed to 9800 XT @ 445 Mhz core / 391 Mhz memory.
AMD Stock Heatsink, Vantec Stealth 80mm 27cfm Fan on Radeon 9800 XT.
Coolermaster Copper Heatsinks for Radeon 9800 XT.
AGP Voltage @ 1.5v.
AGP Bus @ 67 Mhz.
80Gb Maxtor 7200rpm ATA/133 8mb cache hard drive.
30Gb Maxtor 7200rpm ATA/100 2mb cache hard drive.
Audigy 2 Soundcard.
Lite-On 52x/24x/52x CD-RW (latest firmware).
Lite-On 8x DVD+/-RW (latest firmware).
nForce 3 onboard NIC.
Antec 550W TruePower PSU.
Antec Tower Case.
WindowsXP Pro SP2.
DirectX 9.0c.
19" Samsung 955DF flat CRT monitor.
Creative FPS1000 4.1 analogue speakers.
Logitech MX500 Optical Mouse.
EPSON Stylus CX5400 printer+scanner USB device.
BellSouth Xtreme 3.0 Mbit down, 384 Kbit up ADSL.
PC/OS is highly optimized for gaming.
SuperPi 1M Time - 34 seconds.

My problem is that th 1.36b BIOS at the highest voltage setting of 18.3+% should be giving me full 1.85v, but its NOT. Its giving me like 1.75v and sometimes goes up to 1.80v.

What can I do about that? Its 1.55v+18.3% right now....

Its the best BIOS for voltage.

Also, would you say that my CPU is getting WAY too hot? I checked my big bad heatsink several times and its on there really tight. I re-applied AS5 a few times - same result. Its at its FULL power (1900rpm-2000rpm) without Smart Fan 2 thingy.

When I lower voltage - the temperature drops considerably, but my 3000+ BLOWS and needs all 1.75v at LEAST to run at 2.5Ghz.

Memory does fine at 225Mhz at 3-3-3-9-1T (after countless days I found out that CPU has to have MORE voltage to support dual channel at same speed as single channel...)
02-02-2005, 12:58 PM
naelq

:confused:
02-02-2005, 01:08 PM
trans am

My advice is to go to the nearest gas station or hardware store and buy some lighter fluid or gasoline. then carefully remove the board from your case and make sure your cpu and ram have been properly removed and set aside. Next place the Neo2 on the ground in an area away from traffic, small kids, elderly people, cops etc...
Now you are going to spray or spread the flamable liquid all over the neo2. make sure you get it in the processor socket and dimm slots. You are going to want to use a lot of liquid. Now using your hand, raise your left arm and extend your middle finger while staring at the neo2. Make sure the neo2 can see you, because this is the last thing it's going to see. Now get some matches and just light one, but make sure you don't have any flamable liquid on your hands, or else you will catch on fire. Now throw the lit match onto the Neo2 and if it worked. the board will go up in flames. If it is burning rapidly, you have successfully killed the Overclocking demon which lives in the neo2. The Demons can only be killed this way. Next, you will need to buy a Pci-e card and a DFI Ultra-D.
02-02-2005, 01:17 PM
angra

trans_am,

I am considering giving your procedure a try. What brand of lighter fluid do you reccomend?
02-02-2005, 01:27 PM
DazzXP

Yeah my NEO 2 was a pain in the ass also.
02-02-2005, 01:27 PM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by angra

trans_am,

I am considering giving your procedure a try. What brand of lighter fluid do you reccomend?

zippo is good.
http://store1.yimg.com/I/bestmemory_1831_8429566

also Kingsford is good, you may already have some in the garage left over from that summer BBQ. Even Aquanet hairspray will work. Or rubbing Alcohol. It doesn't matter which lighterfluid you use. All that matters is that you burn that Neo2!!!
02-02-2005, 01:28 PM
funkflix

Quote:

Originally Posted by trans am

My advice is to go to the nearest gas station or hardware store and buy some lighter fluid or gasoline. then carefully remove the board from your case and make sure your cpu and ram have been properly removed and set aside. Next place the Neo2 on the ground in an area away from traffic, small kids, elderly people, cops etc...
Now you are going to spray or spread the flamable liquid all over the neo2. make sure you get it in the processor socket and dimm slots. You are going to want to use a lot of liquid. Now using your hand, raise your left arm and extend your middle finger while staring at the neo2. Make sure the neo2 can see you, because this is the last thing it's going to see. Now get some matches and just light one, but make sure you don't have any flamable liquid on your hands, or else you will catch on fire. Now throw the lit match onto the Neo2 and if it worked. the board will go up in flames. If it is burning rapidly, you have successfully killed the Overclocking demon which lives in the neo2. The Demons can only be killed this way. Next, you will need to buy a Pci-e card and a DFI Ultra-D.

:ROTF:

@ Monarch

The Neo2 don't take effect from the settings above 1,475V if u use xx%!
1,475V + 18,3% = 1,745V.
02-02-2005, 02:02 PM
jjcom

trans_am, that is one of the best posts I've ever read :up: :D :lol:

jjcom
02-02-2005, 02:17 PM
MrQ3W

Nice printer and broadband connection you got there mate, good pifast too! that is what you wanted to hear right?...

Oh and thanks trans am you made this thread worth opening. ;)
02-02-2005, 02:46 PM
Monarch

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravediggA

:ROTF:

@ Monarch

The Neo2 don't take effect from the settings above 1,475V if u use xx%!
1,475V + 18,3% = 1,745V.

WTF is up with all the people making jokes?

CORE CENTER shows 1.85v in one place (and other apps), but the CURRENT volts it shows at 1.75v. I saw people getting full 1.85v. CPU-Z also shows 1.73v-1.78v.
02-02-2005, 02:55 PM
trans am

I think the point is that 1.85vcore on the neo2 would be the equavalent to running 1.21 jigawatts through a Delorean modded for time travel. Let us know if you make it to 1955.
02-02-2005, 03:01 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

:D O.K. - if You'll find something like the ASUS repair kit here for NEO2 - use it:

http://img127.exs.cx/img127/1811/asusrepairkit2hu.jpg

:toast:
02-02-2005, 03:05 PM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D O.K. - if You'll find something like the ASUS repair kit here for NEO2 - use it:

:rotf::lol::rotf::lol:
02-02-2005, 03:09 PM
funkflix

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monarch

WTF is up with all the people making jokes?

CORE CENTER shows 1.85v in one place (and other apps), but the CURRENT volts it shows at 1.75v. I saw people getting full 1.85v. CPU-Z also shows 1.73v-1.78v.

There is no one who get's 1,85V real from Neo2 with an winchester ... :rolleyes:
02-02-2005, 03:12 PM
trans am

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravediggA

There is no one who get's 1,85V real from Neo2 with an winchester ... :rolleyes:

Exactly! Do you really think 1.85vcore is such a good idea on a processor that runs at 1.4v stock? Not to mention air cooling...
You might as well put some lighter fluid on that 3000+ while you're at it. :lol:
02-02-2005, 03:13 PM
jjcom

Quote:

Originally Posted by HARDCORECLOCKER

:D O.K. - if You'll find something like the ASUS repair kit here for NEO2 - use it

:toast:

Looks nice, I myself don't have too many problems with ASUS...other than their value boards can't run a 400mhz FSB on the AXP end with a KT600 Chipset...

jjcom
02-02-2005, 03:18 PM
bachus_anonym

Quote:

Originally Posted by GravediggA

There is no one who get's 1,85V real from Neo2 / 3200+ Winchester with an winchester ... :rolleyes:

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE !!! I can have 1.85v LOAD with my Neo2 anytime I want... Just double-checked it... 1.85v in Core Center gives exactly 1.86v on the mosfet measured with multimeter.

BIOS 1.41, 1.55v + 10% then raised to 1.55v + 18.3% using CoreCenter.
02-02-2005, 03:20 PM
jjcom

Quote:

Originally Posted by trans am

Exactly! Do you really think 1.85vcore is such a good idea on a processor that runs at 1.4v stock? Not to mention air cooling...
You might as well put some lighter fluid on that 3000+ while you're at it. :lol:

We're at Xtreme Systems. That wouldn't be bad for a benching run or something. We've got people using LN on there processors so maybe a Winchester that does like the cold would be good with 1.85v

jjcom
02-02-2005, 03:24 PM
trans am

True, but Monarch is aircooling. I honestly don't think he would gain much or anything at all. Even with phase, I doubt I would run 1.85v through a winnie. You know what I mean.
02-02-2005, 03:26 PM
bachus_anonym

you see, not everyone's Winnie runs 2700 stable @ like 1.6v... mine needs 1.75v to run 24/7 absolutely stable @ 2650Mhz... and that's where it is (or 2600Mhz) most of the time...
I don't think that 1.8v will kill Winchester anytime soon. That's what my Winchester needs for benchmarking @ 2720Mhz.
02-02-2005, 03:29 PM
jjcom

yeah, some nice cold air and high volts would probly work well for a benching run

jjcom
02-02-2005, 03:30 PM
HARDCORECLOCKER

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjcom

Looks nice, I myself don't have too many problems with ASUS...other than their value boards can't run a 400mhz FSB on the AXP end with a KT600 Chipset...

jjcom

:D Oh - I forgot to mention, before repair kit was set in action it has been a socket A board.........., now after repair running cheaper - don't even take a single volt.

:toast:
02-02-2005, 03:35 PM
trans am

Well bachus anonym just told him how to do it. We'll see if he gets any gains. I hope everything works fine, but I am sticking to my opinion and the neo2 still deserves to burn in Hell.
02-02-2005, 03:37 PM
funkflix

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE !!! I can have 1.85v LOAD with my Neo2 anytime I want... Just double-checked it... 1.85v in Core Center gives exactly 1.86v on the mosfet measured with multimeter.

BIOS 1.41, 1.55v + 10% then raised to 1.55v + 18.3% using CoreCenter.

No way to get 1,85V here! .... 1.36b + Corecenter 1.7.3.0!

Where u can change x% in CoreCenter? :rolleyes:

And what shows CPU-Z, while u read 1,85V with multi?

Edit: This is the max. i can get! 1,55V (same with 1,475) + 18,3V and the Vcore Bug. The 1,808V is just a peak ... average is 1,798V load!

http://www.weber-steuerungstechnik.de/felix/tuutu6.jpg
02-02-2005, 03:56 PM
bachus_anonym

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GravediggA

No way to get 1,85V here! .... 1.36b + Corecenter 1.7.3.0!

Where u can change x% in CoreCenter? :rolleyes:

And what shows CPU-Z, while u read 1,85V with multi?

here you go ... CoreCenter 1.7.2.0 - I haven't tried 1.7.3.0 yet...

no, there's no % in CoreCenter :)

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23902&stc=1

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...id=23903&stc=1

In CPU-Z I see vcore hoovering between 1.798 - 1.824

EDIT:@Gravedigga
What do you mean by "Vcore bug" ??

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