How does this new chip overclock, 110nm fab should be worth something no? can't wait to see how it does as all the reviews i've found only have mild oc's, how might it do with a molex power mod attached etc. :D
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How does this new chip overclock, 110nm fab should be worth something no? can't wait to see how it does as all the reviews i've found only have mild oc's, how might it do with a molex power mod attached etc. :D
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did a review of the powercolor one that does have a power connector...430/550 is all they got if i remember correctly (thats not much better then the non molex ones)
i think the cores that cant hit high speeds get put onto the XL's,Non pro's, SE's (speedbinning)
But XL's have physically different cores, they are much smaller, how could they be speedbinned from higher models then?
Still it is VERY strange when a card only gives a 7,5% overclock on core imho. Every single card i've had has done at least +35% on air.
yea it seems like their haveing some yield problems or atleast difficulty reaching high speeds with 0.11 but it should pick up as their tweak the process
isnt the x850xt based on the same core? or is that still .13?Quote:
Originally Posted by MrQ3W
still .13
still 130nm.
Everything I have seen leads me to think that the x800xl won't be a great overclocker. The x850 might be a different story, though.
agreed. but if it really will be available for 300€ here (390usd).Quote:
Originally Posted by c42
it will be one helluva deal anyway.
390 USD for the x800xl? Retail is 299, and you can pre-order(yea I know... but eh I don't think anyone has them in stock right now) for around 330 or less.
For 390 USD I think you would be better off with other options (Sapphire x800 pro vivo modded to x800 xt pe?)
i've come to the same conclusion c42, i figured it was just a power issue... but since the powercolor has the external power connecter, that obviously isnt the case, unless this particular card is a lemon.
i did notice they got the core up to 445mhz, in doom3 800x600, but 430mhz everywhere else... whereas any other review is just ~430mhz everywhere. dunno if that means anything.
also, EVERYTHING is more expensive in europe, so its not like the x800xl will be $390, and the x800pro will be $400... more like $490. ;)
in germany 470usd for an x800pro and 650 for a pe are a great deal
dunno why that is. (tax maybe 16%)
Ahh yea forgot you guys have VAT and whatnot. If you bought from US(assuming shipping doesn't kill it) would you be able to get a good deal? Seeing as how the Euro is doing vs the USD?
it pretty much balances out, with shipping... though i think it is slightly cheaper to buy from the US, if someone here is willing to buy, and resend it.
Ahh ok. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
maybe the XLs are just in a desperate need of some voltmodding?
Is what I was thinking/hoping !Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloody_Sorcerer
One thing for sure even at stock, for the price one can hardly say they went wrong.
Definetly the best card for the price(Assuming they stay near the MSRP). If voltmodding does the trick to get this to O/C like the other x800s like to, then this will be quite the card.
Is it possible they are putting the good cores aside for a newer model, say X900 XT with 110nm or some such?
I hope they don't SUCK, I pre-ordered one from ATI for $299-20% = $239 + Tax/Shpg. Thought it'd be a nice 24/7 gamer card.
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could be the heatsink sucks
I think it lacks the power - if we could figure out a way to solder the power connector on it (like on the 9600PRO :) ) then the overclocks may improve a lot.
Every time someone doesnt read a thread, a quote is performed and a little bit of code dies! Its because of this that we have windows you know :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Playful_Buffalo
Nah, they can't speedbin, and won't. Maybe the 110 non low-k isn't a nice core? For OC at least.
R520 being .9, and the x850's being 1.3, im betting that the 110 process is stuck between the 2 and has the worst of both. R520's will overclcok like mofo's though.
>>R520's will overclcok like mofo's though
Somehow I am not 100% confident :p