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Northwood Lives On Another Day : Intel’s Pentium 4 3.4 GHz
very good review on the new Intel P4 3.40ghz 512kb L2.
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Would be nice to know, how far will it overclock with proper cooling. Seems that Intel added few those components under the cpu, which has seen only in M0 stepping processors before. Maybe it helps overclocking, but who knows...
I wish they didn't lock the multi on their chips :(
lol thats everybody`s wish
to bad they didnt compare it to the 3400+ or the 3200+.....
Yea, I hear you. It would be interesting to see what's underneath that heatspreader.. maybe a failed EE? who knows.:)Quote:
Originally posted by The Stilt
Would be nice to know, how far will it overclock with proper cooling. Seems that Intel added few those components under the cpu, which has seen only in M0 stepping processors before. Maybe it helps overclocking, but who knows...
This chip is strange in that it looks like an M0 stepping, but it's from Malaysia. I've never seen an M0 from Malaysia (at least not yet).
Maybe Costa Rica is a little overworked with all the M0 activity lately and Malaysia has to pick up the slack?:)
I tried using Intel Spec finder on the new Northwood 3.4ghz chip to get more core stepping information, but the sSpec number is not currently listed in the database yet. Maybe it hasn't been updated.
They don't put unreleased chips in their database.
Look for it next Monday, or sometime later next week.
Anyone got more reviews on this compared to the A64 3400
Looking between the two chips to see which is the better performer.
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/...3.2ghz_review/Quote:
Originally posted by asim
Anyone got more reviews on this compared to the A64 3400
Looking between the two chips to see which is the better performer.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20040201/index.html
http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1956
http://www.hothardware.com/hh_files/...t_p4ee34.shtml
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu.../prescott.html
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu...ott-tests.html
http://www.lostcircuits.com/cpu/prescott/
http://www.techreport.com/reviews/20...t/index.x?pg=1
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTgz
http://www.aceshardware.com/read.jsp?id=60000315
http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews...lld19JRD02OTY=
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Thanks for all the reviews. Ive read through quite a few of them.
I mean the difference between a 3.4ghz northwood and a64 3400 is not much i'd say. They beat each other in different tests. I mean the new nforce 3 250 mobos are gonna be out soon aswell.
I'm thinking bout pickin up a a64 3400 + shuttle AN50R and then when the new mobos come out jus grab one of those and keep the cpu.
What your thoughts on the two chips?
AMD = cheap , better with gaming mostly( UT2003, Serious Sam, X2, splinter cell). Good with Arithmetic benchmarks, Super PI, Hexifast, Scientific programs, Primordia, real world applications. AMD has less frequency.Quote:
Originally posted by asim
Thanks for all the reviews. Ive read through quite a few of them.
I mean the difference between a 3.4ghz northwood and a64 3400 is not much i'd say. They beat each other in different tests. I mean the new nforce 3 250 mobos are gonna be out soon aswell.
I'm thinking bout pickin up a a64 3400 + shuttle AN50R and then when the new mobos come out jus grab one of those and keep the cpu.
What your thoughts on the two chips?
Intel= expensive, quality, and better with some games(QuakeIII, Commache4, Return Castle wolfenstein, Aquamark3). Good with Audio, Video, editing, encoding, multimedia, Synthetic benchmarks.
Intel have more frequency.
The A64 3400+ is very sweet cpu, performs on par with P4EE 3.40ghz and surpassing in some occasions in games. Just not my cup of tea tho. I prefer mhz, data streaming and internet content creation speed. I do alot of Photoshop stuff and the P4 kills the A64 in that. Because of SSE2, and hyperthreading technology.
Jesus kanavit,
You are always talking about frequency... Do you have any idea how to measure performance? Hint: Frequency IS involved, but not the only factor.
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2003...lon_64-43.html Sysmark 2002 - internet content creation , P4 owns the A64 in this application.
. btw, i make a lot of different sigs with Photoshop proggy, and Need SSE2, MHz, and hyperthreading for that. Plus, I watch a lot of NFL videos for data video streaming on the net, so i need a good processor for that.
I'm sorry but that is an extremely lame comeback, and doesn't even have anything to do with "quality" and you know it.Quote:
Originally posted by unrealneo
'Intel = expensive, quality...'
quality? how come they run HOTTER and need much louder cooling than AMDs then? (even Northwoods) I wouldn't call that quality. ;)
Actually, the arguments on both sides of this thread are pretty lame...
Data streaming on the internet?.... Dont forget intel has netburst to surf the internet faster :rolleyes:
I think AMD-ites got mad becuase the "expensive, quality" bit implies AMD is not quality. They each have there strengths. The fact that they can keep up with a company like the gigantic intel says a lot. I dunno, making cpus is a tough task, enough anomalies as it is... neither can fly-by-night and be atop their game.
Hard to compare cpus like some of the heat arguments listed so far because the companies can be at different stages in the game. Intel is trying to get 90nm right. Tbred A's were hot as hell. AMD isnt going to crank out 90nm's hammers day one.
I don't want to get into strength or weaknesses. Just they're both good and let it die at that. Please jeebus, let it stop at that.
Off topic... Oh well started to suck anyways...
What up Texus Pete?
You from CT? Where abouts? I suppose this conversation should be finished via PM.
ironically , Intel is labeling Yamhill technology as CT. Xeons with CT will be displayed at IDF this month from what i hear.
lol
LT= lagrande technology
HT= hyperthreading
CT= ??? 64-bit
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Originally posted by Kanavit
http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/2003...lon_64-43.html Sysmark 2002 - internet content creation , P4 owns the A64 in this application.
. btw, i make a lot of different sigs with Photoshop proggy, and Need SSE2, MHz, and hyperthreading for that. Plus, I watch a lot of NFL videos for data video streaming on the net, so i need a good processor for that.
Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004:
Adobe Photoshop 7.0.1, Adobe Premiere 6.50, Macromedia Director MX 9.0, Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 6.1, Microsoft Windows Media Encoder 9 Version 9.00.00.2980, NewTek LightWave 3D 7.5b and Steinberg WaveLab 4.0f
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/p...winstone-2.png
A64 owns P4 in these content creation aplications.
nice graph Petnorth, but those results are a combination of benchmarks and does not portray individual benchmark performance.
Of course, it's an avarage between results in a real life normal session with all these content creation programs ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Kanavit
nice graph Petnorth, but those results are a combination of benchmarks and does not portray individual benchmark performance.
please, stop harassing each other like this, you look like gangbangers saying : 'mine is thicker', and the other 'mine is longer', meanwhile the lady's waiting bored like hell.
LOL.....
:D