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07-28-2010, 06:01 PM
bakalu

SLI GeForce GTX 460 @ 775/1000 versus Radeon HD 5970 @ 800/1150 !!!

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
RAM 3x2GB DDR3
ASUS GTX 460 768MB core/shader/memory 675/1350/900
ASUS GTX 460 768MB Direct CU core/shader/memory 700/1400/920
ASUS HD 5970 core/memory 725/1000
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta
Driver ATI 10.7 WHQL + 10-7_ATICatalyst_AppProfiles

3DMark Vantage Performance

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280366935

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280366935

Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280366984

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280366984

I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-28 10:45:11 - Crysis
Frames: 14320 - Time: 274358ms - Avg: 52.195 - Min: 20 - Max: 89

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-28 14:03:04 - Crysis
Frames: 11787 - Time: 276624ms - Avg: 42.610 - Min: 14 - Max: 80

Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367217

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367217

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1275732326

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367261

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367261

Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367386

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367386

Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...h-star-bc2.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367441

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-28 12:04:04 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 55874 - Time: 575774ms - Avg: 97.042 - Min: 33 - Max: 147

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-28 15:24:42 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 53637 - Time: 556597ms - Avg: 96.366 - Min: 44 - Max: 160

Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-28 11:51:21 - metro2033
Frames: 8712 - Time: 241089ms - Avg: 36.136 - Min: 15 - Max: 60

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-28 15:14:42 - metro2033
Frames: 8052 - Time: 239472ms - Avg: 33.624 - Min: 18 - Max: 54

Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367741

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367741

Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367779

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367779

Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5970 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367820

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367820

Warhaead Crysis gameplay, HD5970 is much smoother than SLI GTX460 768MB. In conclusion, victory belongs HD5970.

Performance of SLI GTX460 768MB @ 775/1000 is more stronger GTX480. You can see the benchmark's result of GTX480 in the same system of SLI GTX460 768MB @

775/1000 here : http://forum.amtech.com.vn/overclock...50-1250-a.html

Source : http://forum.amtech.com.vn/overclock...tml#post700994
07-28-2010, 08:20 PM
saaya

why did you chose those clocks?
similar to this
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/N...60_SLI/25.html

a 5970 is around 10% faster on average...
and thats about the boost i expect from enabling the 8th block of shaders on gf104... :D
so the 495 should really be able to compete with the 5970... but i wonder how they hold up against the overclocked editions of 5970, as those clock a lot higher and 460s only reach around 900mhz...
07-28-2010, 09:13 PM
Johnny87au

Nice mate , thanks for this! always though the 460's in SLI were better as they scale great! Still though for price/performance they own the 5970!
07-28-2010, 11:41 PM
skuldarin

a few issues i see with your HD5970

1 - only 1gb mem is registering when it's a 2gb mem card
2 - your overclock is very mild, you can easily go MUCH higher *950core 1250mem with 1.175v core easy*

those two easily make up WAY more over the 460 without a sweat. my HD5970 on average does 33-35k on GPU vantage scores and still has room for improvement both with drivers and with more OC head room.
07-28-2010, 11:56 PM
dingdong555

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Nice mate , thanks for this! always though the 460's in SLI were better as they scale great! Still though for price/performance they own the 5970!

If ONLY you could use them in 3x or 4x :(
07-29-2010, 02:12 AM
Johnny87au

Yeah i know mate, its because it isnt a high end card so the max is 2 way SLI grr.. check this out..
http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/4677/gtx.jpg
07-29-2010, 02:49 AM
bakalu

Additional results of the benchmark SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
RAM 3x2GB DDR3
ASUS GTX 460 1GB Direct CU core/shader/memory 775/1550/1000
GIGABYTE GTX 460 1GB OC core/shader/memory 715/1430/900
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta

3DMark Vantage Performance

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-29 11:17:59 - Crysis
Frames: 14089 - Time: 273362ms - Avg: 51.540 - Min: 15 - Max: 87

Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1275732326

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...h-star-bc2.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367441

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-29 11:56:18 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 56880 - Time: 555258ms - Avg: 102.439 - Min: 48 - Max: 166

Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-29 11:24:11 - metro2033
Frames: 8871 - Time: 239294ms - Avg: 37.072 - Min: 20 - Max: 60

Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

SLI GeForce GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280394700

Warhaead Crysis gameplay, SLI GTX460 1GB is much smoother than SLI GTX460 768MB. Frame rate of SLI GTX460 768MB will be dropped down a lot when turning or having the explosion since 768MB is not enough to play Crysis Warhead at resolution 1920*1080, Enthusiast DX10, AA = 4X.

The benchmark result of Stalker DX11 Call of Pripyat, the min frame rate of SLI GTX460 1GB is much higher than HD5970.

In terms of performance/price, SLI GTX460 1GB is much better than HD5970.
07-29-2010, 04:14 AM
dingdong555

Nice benchies mate!!

@ Johnny, yeah, it sucks, imagine how many more cards NVIDIA would sell if it could handle TRI SLI/QUAD. Let's hope they release a dual version :D
07-29-2010, 04:25 AM
TJ TRICHEESE

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

a few issues i see with your HD5970

1 - only 1gb mem is registering when it's a 2gb mem card
2 - your overclock is very mild, you can easily go MUCH higher *950core 1250mem with 1.175v core easy*

those two easily make up WAY more over the 460 without a sweat. my HD5970 on average does 33-35k on GPU vantage scores and still has room for improvement both with drivers and with more OC head room.

something something something ati fanboy.

both overclocks are mild so it is a fair performance comparison.
07-29-2010, 04:48 AM
map01ch

Wow.... this is cool! I love it, thanks for sharing...
07-29-2010, 04:48 AM
xdan

Don't make excuses for 5970 it costs at least 200$ more than two GTX 460 1GB, so performance of GTX 460 SLI is very high for their price.
And also not say that...one card is better than two because Nvidia SLI drivers are more stable and witheout bugs than Ati's CF. And 20-30$ you can spend more for a better motheboard with SLI and more overclocking capabilities.
And also GTX 460 fits on every case, thing that is not valable for the long 5970.
07-29-2010, 04:50 AM
TJ TRICHEESE

yep this comparison shows how much more efficient at scaling SLI is than crossfire
07-29-2010, 05:14 AM
Pekalion

Amazing comparision as usual bakalu!

So, the sweet pot is in a SLI of GTX460 1GB edition, wich is something that I really want, but since I have a mother that doesn't deliver 16x lanes in both PCI-E I don't think that it will be such as good as this one.

Can you try it in a P55 configuration? Would love to see how much impact to the performance will bring.

Beside, I hope that they create the GTX495 with double GTX460 1GB, or with full 8 clusters :D I need a new vga :p
07-29-2010, 03:41 PM
skuldarin

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRICHEESE

something something something ati fanboy.

both overclocks are mild so it is a fair performance comparison.

has nothing to do with me being a fanboy of anything, i don't choose sides for graphics, i only choose what i find to be the best option. in this case i choose my option and then ran into driver issues after... it happens.

just saying that doing such a mild clock on both setups, it would be better to put both setups at thier stable max settings and then do a comparison.
07-29-2010, 03:57 PM
The Duke

are you and charts not on speaking terms?
I get so lost trying read all the info :p:
07-29-2010, 05:36 PM
snoid_zero

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuldarin

a few issues i see with your HD5970

1 - only 1gb mem is registering when it's a 2gb mem card

that's not an issue. that's just how GPU-Z reads X2 cards.

Nice review.
07-29-2010, 08:14 PM
Johnny87au

Quote:

Originally Posted by dingdong555

Nice benchies mate!!

@ Johnny, yeah, it sucks, imagine how many more cards NVIDIA would sell if it could handle TRI SLI/QUAD. Let's hope they release a dual version :D

Yeh that would be wicked dude, i was so tempted to get 3 of these straight up, as its around same price as one 5970, and basically would kick the :banana::banana::banana::banana: out of it ;)
07-30-2010, 03:25 AM
Ket

It would of made more sence to give the 460s same clockspeed as the 5970 (or close to it) then compare the two.
07-30-2010, 03:35 AM
Lu(ky

Nice review... Maybe try some MAX OC's on both 5970 and then 460's I am very curious on the results? Thanks
07-31-2010, 03:06 AM
bakalu

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pekalion

Can you try it in a P55 configuration? Would love to see how much impact to the performance will bring.

x8/x8 P55 performance is a bit weaker than the x16/x16 X58. I'll show you some results benchmark P55 configuration to compare X58 configuration.
08-01-2010, 01:30 PM
GXms

bakalu,please test your cards on defaults+OC-ed in Far cry 2,settings:1680х1050 8хАА,ultra high,dx10,ranch small;Crysis warhead 1680x1050 8xAA very high- ambush,dx10.I want to compare it to my 5970.
p.s. nice review,thanks for tests.
08-01-2010, 06:05 PM
bakalu

To view the performance of SLI GTX 460 1GB and CrossFireX HD 5850 improve how much to compare with one VGA, I benchmark 5850 and GTX 460 1GB at the same resolution and clock of 5970 and SLI GTX 460 1GB.

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
RAM 3x2GB DDR3
ASUS GTX 460 1GB Direct CU core/shader/memory 775/1550/1000
ASUS HD 5850 core/memory 725/1000
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta
Driver ATI 10.7 WHQL + 10-7_ATICatalyst_AppProfiles

3DMark Vantage Performance

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...ch-vantage.jpg

Crysis Warhead. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...sis-ambush.jpg

I played a short and used Fraps to benchmark, map Train. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Enthusiast DX10

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367044

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-31 08:23:10 - Crysis
Frames: 8767 - Time: 274972ms - Avg: 31.883 - Min: 15 - Max: 53

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-30 09:05:29 - Crysis
Frames: 7653 - Time: 275306ms - Avg: 27.798 - Min: 11 - Max: 46

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...ysis-train.jpg

Call of Juarez DX10. 1920*1080, AA=4X Super_sampling, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...amtech-coj.jpg

S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, Max Settings, Tessellation=ON

Settings in S.T.A.L.K.E.R Call of Pripyat DX11
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1275732326

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...ch-stalker.jpg

Demo benchmark Dirt 2 DX11. 1920*1080, AA=8x MSAA, Ultra Settings. POST PROCESS=HIGH

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...tech-dirt2.jpg

Benchmark Bad Company 2 DX11. I play the first map. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, AA=8X, AF=16X, Max Settings

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...h-star-bc2.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280367441

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-31 09:49:11 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 32271 - Time: 553377ms - Avg: 58.316 - Min: 13 - Max: 92

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-30 09:23:39 - BFBC2Game
Frames: 30677 - Time: 560596ms - Avg: 54.722 - Min: 26 - Max: 91

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...amtech-bc2.jpg

Benchmark Metro 2033. I play the first scene. Use Fraps. 1920*1080, NoAA, AF=16X, Very High, DX11

I begin to benchmark here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

And stop here
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...-metro2033.jpg

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150

Quote:

2010-07-31 10:00:43 - metro2033
Frames: 5025 - Time: 237458ms - Avg: 21.162 - Min: 11 - Max: 35

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000

Quote:

2010-07-30 10:09:52 - metro2033
Frames: 4631 - Time: 238197ms - Avg: 19.442 - Min: 11 - Max: 34

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...tech-metro.jpg

Devil May Cry 4 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Super High

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...tech-dmcr4.jpg

Resident Evil 5 DX10. 1920*1080, AA=8X, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712589

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...amtech-re5.jpg

Heaven Demo benchmark DX11. 1920*1080, AA=4X, AF=16X, Tessellation=Extreme, Max Settings

ASUS HD 5850 @ 800/1150
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

ASUS GTX 460 1GB @ 775/1000
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...1&d=1280712571

Scale SLI and CrossFireX 2-way over single VGA:
http://forum.amtech.com.vn/attachmen...ech-heaven.jpg

Clearly, improved SLI performance is a lot better than CrossFireX, so not surprisingly performance of GTX 460 1GB lost HD 5850 a lot but the performance of SLI GTX 460 1GB is the same as Radeon HD 5970.
08-02-2010, 08:45 PM
bakalu

4 Attachment(s)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GXms

bakalu,please test your cards on defaults+OC Crysis warhead 1680x1050 8xAA very high- ambush,dx10.I want to compare it to my 5970.

Here

My system
CPU Core i7 Extreme 965 @ 3.6GHz
Mainboard ASUS Rampage II Gene
RAM 3x2GB DDR3
ASUS GTX 460 768MB core/shader/memory 675/1350/900
ASUS GTX 460 768MB Direct CU core/shader/memory 700/1400/920
Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit RTM
Driver NVIDIA 258.96 beta

Crysis Warhead. 1680*1050, AA=8X, Enthusiast DX10, ambush map

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB Default 675/900
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1280810304

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1280810304

Crysis Warhead. 1680*1050, AA=8X, Enthusiast DX10, cargo flythrough

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB Default 675/900
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1280810304

SLI ASUS GTX 460 768MB @ 775/1000
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1280810304