Cats 9.8 preview/launch? at Quakecon

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08-12-2009, 09:09 AM
informal

Cats 9.8 preview/launch? at Quakecon

Terry Catalyst-Maker Makedon posted an interesting post @ twitter:

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Originally Posted by Catalyst maker

If you want to be the first in the world to try Catalyst 9.8 and are at #quakecon, follow me for info!

If we are lucky maybe we will see the new DX11 GPUs in action in Phenom II 965BE powered rigs :).
08-12-2009, 09:14 AM
perkam

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Originally Posted by informal

Terry Catalyst-Maker Makedon posted an interesting post @ twitter:

If we are lucky maybe we will see the new DX11 GPUs in action in Phenom II 965BE powered rigs :).

Unlikely. I don't think ATI has RV870 final silicon ready yet.

Anything they show at QuakeCon will probably be as relevant as showing a thousand hello kitty dolls on screen using Dx11 :stick:

Perkam
08-12-2009, 09:32 AM
Helloworld_98

I hope it's better than 9.7
08-12-2009, 09:36 AM
informal

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Unlikely. I don't think ATI has RV870 final silicon ready yet.

Anything they show at QuakeCon will probably be as relevant as showing a thousand hello kitty dolls on screen using Dx11 :stick:

Perkam

"In action" was meant as previewing the DX11 GPU based cards,not RV870 specific... I never said launch RV870 or similar.
The Catalyst 9.8 are being launched at the event(as things stand right now). If cats 9.8 are not launched at the event,then they will be soon after since the preview will be on the 15th.
08-12-2009, 09:36 AM
Toysoldier

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Originally Posted by Helloworld_98

I hope it's better than 9.7

What wrong with that ?

Works pretty well here.
08-12-2009, 09:37 AM
ripken204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helloworld_98

I hope it's better than 9.7

heh, hope, that's all we have now
08-12-2009, 09:49 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by perkam

Unlikely. I don't think ATI has RV870 final silicon ready yet.

Anything they show at QuakeCon will probably be as relevant as showing a thousand hello kitty dolls on screen using Dx11 :stick:

Perkam

Final silicon should tape out anytime/has taped out. AMD have promised a release together with Windows 7 and they need those ships ATLEAST 1 month before sent to manufacturers for massproduction, if not a week or 2 more.
08-12-2009, 12:04 PM
Humminn55

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Originally Posted by Toysoldier

What wrong with that ?

Works pretty well here.

Because making random derisive comments without anything to back it up is the way of the internet, don't you know?
08-12-2009, 12:18 PM
K404

I took the comment in a different way- 9.7 could be a minor update- expanded .inf for DX11 cards and generally tread water OR... they could be another set of noticeable steps to fix known bugs and actively increase performance.
08-12-2009, 12:26 PM
STaRGaZeR

Do 9.8's have something special? If not, who cares...
08-12-2009, 12:42 PM
Helloworld_98

^ lets just hope they put the GUI back, and ideally they come closer to perfecting Crossfire scaling.
08-12-2009, 12:53 PM
STaRGaZeR

They have to cook a proper GUI, both are crap. NVIDIA's control panel is way better.
08-12-2009, 12:58 PM
Jamesrt2004

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Originally Posted by Smartidiot89

Final silicon should tape out anytime/has taped out. AMD have promised a release together with Windows 7 and they need those ships ATLEAST 1 month before sent to manufacturers for massproduction, if not a week or 2 more.

+1 and even then thats assuming it was perfect first time :)
08-12-2009, 03:31 PM
zanzabar

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Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR

They have to cook a proper GUI, both are crap. NVIDIA's control panel is way better.

NV's control panel is the same as old CCC except for the initial load time. and i want my old gui back
08-12-2009, 04:36 PM
situman

Its just a horse and pony show, trying to hype up a driver that will offer nothing new like the previous million or so updates. What's important is to not have people ask about the next gen stuff but to focus on something so irrelevant as a new driver.
08-12-2009, 09:09 PM
STEvil

I want the original Control Panel.

To heck with CCC.
08-12-2009, 10:01 PM
Overfiend

Seconded :up:
08-12-2009, 10:31 PM
dinos22

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Originally Posted by STEvil

I want the original Control Panel.

To heck with CCC.

LOL i was thinking the same thing :rofl:
08-13-2009, 02:17 AM
informal

Interesting comment from the neoseeker's 965BE review regarding the Cats 9.8 performance on Dragon platform(AMD CPU/mobo specific):

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Originally Posted by neoseeker

ATI Catalyst 9.8:

The next ATI graphics cards drivers will also get released on August 17th. It includes some enhancements specific to performance platforms which are meant to improve system performance in CPU bound situations. It is said that at 1680x1050 and higher, crossfire setups benefit considerably when used as part of the Dragon Platform. This means the AMD platform is more effective as a whole. Titles such as Far Cry 2, H.A.W.X., Battleforge, Stalker Clear Sky, Crysis, Company of Heroes, and World in Conflict show the largest gains, with Far Cry 2 getting up to approximately 50% more performance. Intel based computers featuring an ATI graphics solution will also see some increases, although they will be much less important.

50% more performance is a bit unrealistic IMO,but let's wait and see. The author mentions intel platform will benefit also from 9.8 Cats,but much less than the Dragon platform. Finally,AMD driver team found a time to optimize graphic drivers for a "domestic" platform.
08-13-2009, 02:27 AM
Lightman

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

Interesting comment from the neoseeker's 965BE review regarding the Cats 9.8 performance on Dragon platform(AMD CPU/mobo specific):

50% more performance is a bit unrealistic IMO,but let's wait and see. The author mentions intel platform will benefit also from 9.8 Cats,but much less than the Dragon platform. Finally,AMD driver team found a time to optimize graphic drivers for a "domestic" platform.

I think that the driver is already well optimized for Intel but weirdly enough not for AMD own CPUs. The other explanation is that I7 is so fast that it's maxing out CF rigs in more scenarios than Phenom rigs. Improving CPU bound situations in driver will result in bigger gains for AMD rigs.
Time will tell :D
08-13-2009, 04:52 AM
Helloworld_98

AMD, stop trying to make me regret getting an i7 rig!
08-13-2009, 05:00 AM
Smartidiot89

Quote:

Originally Posted by informal

50% more performance is a bit unrealistic IMO,but let's wait and see. The author mentions intel platform will benefit also from 9.8 Cats,but much less than the Dragon platform. Finally,AMD driver team found a time to optimize graphic drivers for a "domestic" platform.

So AMDs claims that you will get better performance with a "Complete" platform is true?
08-13-2009, 05:59 AM
RejZoR

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Originally Posted by Helloworld_98

AMD, stop trying to make me regret getting an i7 rig!

I see no reason to regret i7 system.
08-13-2009, 06:33 AM
Oberon

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Originally Posted by RejZoR

I see no reason to regret i7 system.

Heat, cost, similar gaming performance.

I've considered getting rid of my 920 for a 955BE and I got the 920 for free =P
08-13-2009, 06:40 AM
perkam

I don't see any Quakecon Info?

Perkam

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