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Good day-
I current run a P6T Deluxe with a i7 920. Because of the way things are, I need to be able to have the computer suspend to S3. However, the P6T board I have does not come out of S3 correctly 95% of the time. I understand the Gigabyte boards have the same issue.
My question: are there any X58 boards that actually do NOT have any issues with S3 suspend?
Thank you,
Chris
I have used the P6T Deluxe and the eVGA X58 and both do not S3 correctly. The Asus will go into S3 once per boot and the eVGA won't do S3 above 180 BCLK.
Anandtech reported that the eVGA Classified does fix the suspend issue that the previous eVGA x58 board had. I'm not sure about others.
The Foxconn BloodRage with the P06 BIOS is supposed to go S1 & S3 and wake up fine.
I will give it a go later on with Windows XP for starters and 220MHz BCLK.
The resume with Gigabyte is broke when HT is off, when it's on all is fine.
My Gigabyte works fine. EX58-EXTREME with Windows Vista, but seems borked with Server 2008.
Never tried turning HT off.
I think the main concern with S3 is overclocking period, HT technically shouldn't have anything to do with it.
I wish it was that easy for me... I'm have everything at default settings and S3 still doesn't work for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReverendMaynard
Thank you all for the comments. If Asus can't figure out what's going on, I'll have to try another board. I would assume S3 would just work at this point but I guess not.
Does someone tested the S3 on Asus Rampage Extreme II?
I don't understand why S3 is so neglected by board manufacturers. I find it essential for my way to use the PC, especially with modern computers that get at least 150 W when idle from mains.
I think my grammar checked went bonkers when it scan the thread title! :D "x58 board that suspends properly"
I would kinda expect/accept this with a board that costs say $50 but these boards are costing in the $200-$300 range and should be the cream of the crop.
I plan to stick with my Asus boards as they've been great and this seems to be a fairly universal issue with x58 so hopefully it'll be resolve eventually.
Look to DFI for that, S3 functions work great on both UT and DK X58 series.
Yes, absolutely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schlotkins
many of the posts in this thread are incorrect, here are the facts based on my testing S3 SM on seven different x58 boards over the last 5 months.
note: "properly" is defined as going into and resuming from SM at any BCLK, and HT can be either enabled or disabled
the short list of boards that unconditionally do S3 SM properly are:
Gigabyte ex58 UD5 with F5E BIOS. Other BIOS work only if HT is enabled.
DFI UT Lanparty T3EH8
Boards that do not do SM: (always hangs with blank screen upon resume)
Giga ex58 UD3r
MSI Platinum SLI
MSI Eclipse
DFI LP DK T3EH6
The Biostar Tpower x58 is a special case...it seemed to work, except it would randomly fail SM after working for a number of resumes. Typically, I could reset my BIOS and it would start working again, but always would eventually fail. Once it failed, it would always fail until reset. I tried three different BIOS including the latest on the Bio website. This could be a bad board but I sent it back in favor of the giga UD5 since the UD5 always works.
Above all, the DFI LP DK was the biggest disppointment because it was reported to work, it didn't. Smart fan also doesn't work, and the DK has the worst AC characteristics of the seven I tested. The UD5 has the best AC, just a hair better than the Biostar. In fact, it was so close I'd call it a tie. Biostar tech wrote me to say that they reported my S3 experience to their design team and they'll try to reproduce the failure.
Except for the Biostar, the success or failure is 100% repeatable. That is, if a board fails at 'X' Bclk, it always fails. In the case of the two working boards, they always work right 100% of the time, any Bclk.
As to the Giga UD5, using the F5E BIOS isn't a restriction because there is no bad side effect of the BIOS, it works as well as any of the others that have the "HT on" requirement, so just use it.
Just did a test on the Foxconn BloodRage with the P06 BIOS, a i7 920 and Windows XP.
Booted at 220MHz BCLK and set it to sleep ( STR aka S3 ).
Pressed the power button to power on again and it worked fine ;)
I have the giga UD5 and am running F5e Bios and it does suspend correctly now but I have to wait 30 seconds before waking or I will get the blank screen issue. I have seen this come and go with different BIOS since the board came out. If it matters My i7 is overclocked to 4.095 with HT on.
Terlcartman...for a while, I too was having extremely long resume times, 18 seconds. Others were reporting 5 second times with the UD5.
I reformated and reinstalled Vista and poof, problem solved. Since then, 5 second boot times with the UD5. And I haven't seen that HT has any affect on resume time. BTW, SM works on win7 just as it does under vista, 4.5 - 6 seconds resume.
Useful info, thanks for the post.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
How many seconds till desktop reappears? Also, are there any bad side effects with the P06 BIOS?
I don't know of any ASUS x58 that does suspend properly. Pisses me the F off too.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
No Asus board period I've used does S3 suspend correctly period. They are all broken and Asus choose to ignore this and not fix their AMI bios code time and time again. Their guys have known it's messed up for a while and well...it's still broken to this day.
I don't have any problems at all with S3 on either my p5k-e and p5k-deluxe, hardly ever do full power downs on them, always put them to sleep.
Perhaps it wasn't broken until after P35 then. The P45, X38, X48, X58 boards I've used had broken S3 resume.Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I have no problems at all with the P06 BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by roller11
Average wakeup time is approx. 2.5s
Here's a video of the BloodRage booting at 220MHz BCLK, then going into S3 ( Sleep Mode ) and then back into Windows.
ahhh bench you always just lay it out how it is bro. Love it.
My Asus P5E with X38 never resumed correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
My Asus Rampage Formula (X48) resumes correctly the 80% of the times.
Nobody knows how Rampage Extreme II resumes? Never, half of times, nearly every time...
Thank you all for the replies. I am really surprised all of these boards are having problems. How are they allowed to put an energy star logo on these boards when they can't even suspend properly?! Asus is supposedly trying to 'reproduce' my problem, but it seems to be widely known so I'm not sure why they are surprised. It looks like I'll have to move to the DFI board.
The S3 performance of the giga UD5 is exactly the same as the DFI UT Lanparty. Both handle SM flawlessly, every time, at any Bclk, with HT either on or off. And the resume time is 4.5-6 seconds on both boards. I used the DFI for about one month, the Giga for 2 months.
My results are exactly the same as others who have reported S3 performance, read
through the posts on the giga UD5 thread. Of course the DFI UT Lanparty works too, but has a couple of significant draw backs:
Smart Fan doesn't work at all, the AC characteristics are slightly worse than the giga especially at low voltage, and the 1366 socket is ill-placed.
All and all, the DFI is a good board, but not the equal of the giga UD5. And whatever you do, DO NOT get the DFI DK lanparty...it's the
motherboard from hell, broken sleep mode is just the beginning.
Thanks roller11. I just heard back from Asus support and they say they can't duplicate any sleep problems so it must be something on my end. This seems like a fairly common problem with this board so I'm a bit taken aback by that statement. Oh well.