Elsa Announces First Lucid Logix Powered Multi-GPU Applications.

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02-17-2009, 10:08 AM
XSAlliN

Elsa Announces First Lucid Logix Powered Multi-GPU Applications.

And a more palpable update for "Lucid Logix Powered Multi-GPU":

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/...inboard_bg.jpg

http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/news/...d_cards_bg.jpg

The source and the bad news:

Quote:

The first ultra high end professional graphics accelerator based on Lucid Hydra will be able to support up to four Nvidia GeForce or Quadro graphics cards as Elsa Japan exclusively sells only Nvidia-based solutions. The product is not aimed at gamers and will be supplied in 2U rack mount case.

Meaning it's not the one expected which handles both ATi and nVidia cards...:shrug:
02-17-2009, 10:20 AM
acidpython

shame, although its nice to know where we're standing at the moment with the whole lucid hydra. I was more looking forward to the better performance scaling to be honest
02-17-2009, 10:25 AM
Jamesrt2004

it's a start lets hope this keeps coming and matures well :)
02-17-2009, 10:29 AM
m^2

The source doesn't say that it can't work with ATI or mix different GPUs. Seriously I can't imagine them selling mixed setups, what for?
Obviously this doesn't mean that it can work with ATI though.
02-17-2009, 10:32 AM
inCore

What exactly does this do? I am admittedly quite uninformed when it comes to this technology but after reading the article, I still don't see the point in it.

I thought the whole point of something like this was to have nVidia and ATI in the same system, working together, now all I see is a seperate Quad-SLI board.
02-17-2009, 10:42 AM
XSAlliN

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Originally Posted by inCore

What exactly does this do? I am admittedly quite uninformed when it comes to this technology but after reading the article, I still don't see the point in it.

I thought the whole point of something like this was to have nVidia and ATI in the same system, working together, now all I see is a seperate Quad-SLI board.

That's quite simple SLI - SUX! (CF SUX MORE) so this might be a better alternative for SLI. At least in theory, with early news about this project was shown to be, not just more capable but "capable/scalable", Meaning you pay for 2 nVidia card cards, from same model and you get almost double performance not just 30%, meaning both cards use only 65% of their potential as it does with Sli, but 82% or something like that.
02-17-2009, 10:56 AM
CyberDruid

Sorry to be the dumbass that asks this question but how does it interface with a motherboard? I assume this is for driving enormous displays or high-powered rendering engines (or both) but where do you plug the thing in :D
02-17-2009, 10:59 AM
m^2

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Originally Posted by CyberDruid

Sorry to be the dumbass that asks this question but how does it interface with a motherboard? I assume this is for driving enormous displays or high-powered rendering engines (or both) but where do you plug the thing in :D

Do you see the connector on the side? You plug a cable in it. The cable goes to some PCIe daughter card. It's external, 2U to be precise.
02-17-2009, 11:00 AM
IronWarrior

So, even through it is not aimed at gamers, let's ignore that fact, how can we use this for gaming? xD
02-17-2009, 11:05 AM
Aerou

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberDruid

Sorry to be the dumbass that asks this question but how does it interface with a motherboard? I assume this is for driving enormous displays or high-powered rendering engines (or both) but where do you plug the thing in :D

don't you see that SCART connector?
02-17-2009, 11:06 AM
m^2

Hey, I just noticed something strange.
Even though they claim it's 2U, it won't fit. The thing on the pictures needs 3U. So what we can see here is probably far from final.
02-17-2009, 11:07 AM
XSAlliN

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Originally Posted by IronWarrior

So, even through it is not aimed at gamers, let's ignore that fact, how can we use this for gaming? xD

This is just a "professional" beginning, maybe a solid competition for FASTRA. So gaming might be the next in line. :)
02-17-2009, 12:11 PM
EniGmA1987

Arent normal sized graphics cards (and the ones this would be used for) taller than 2U? I thought modern cards were a lot closer to 3U tall...
02-17-2009, 12:13 PM
m^2

Yes, 3U unless they are on a riser and parallel to the motherboard. Or they are very low end.
02-17-2009, 12:22 PM
LordEC911

The best part about this is how much it should scare us about Lucid BSing...
They said that their only market was gamers but showing this, obviously it isn't. Also what is the point of this product? GPGPU calculations already scale linearly, in most situations, so what is the need of this?
02-17-2009, 12:25 PM
Mr Roboto

If the Hydra really does work in the way they presented it at IDF then I will be very interested to see ATI and Nvidia's reaction when it's actually released on production motherboards. Even if the first models only support two GPU's it will be huge.

This is AMD and Nvidia's worst nightmare with the economy and spending being down as it is. At first it might spur sales but those won't be sustainable sales increases.

Also this is in the Intel Larrabee pile right now until they show some real world benches.
02-17-2009, 12:45 PM
Blauhung

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Originally Posted by inCore

What exactly does this do? I am admittedly quite uninformed when it comes to this technology but after reading the article, I still don't see the point in it.

I thought the whole point of something like this was to have nVidia and ATI in the same system, working together, now all I see is a seperate Quad-SLI board.

it's a dedicated I/O processor for load balancing.
02-17-2009, 12:59 PM
BababooeyHTJ

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Originally Posted by Blauhung

it's a dedicated I/O processor for load balancing.

And how exactly is it different than an nforce 200?
02-17-2009, 01:06 PM
Shintai

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Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ

And how exactly is it different than an nforce 200?

nForce 200 is only a PCIe switch. It contains nothing else. nForce200 is like the PLX chip on X2 cards.
02-17-2009, 01:10 PM
brinox

if mainboard vendors were to run with this, then it would eliminate any competitive advantage that one platform (that is, SLI vs CF) has over the other, and you could choose either flavor (nvidia vs ati) for your multi-gpu needs.
02-17-2009, 03:52 PM
m^2

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAlliN

Sorry to disappoint you but the war might be over soon and you might see a lot rigs with both of them combine, both nVidia and ATi.:peace:

What for? I can only see 2 reasons: Being different and upgrading with hope that the old card helps some.
02-17-2009, 03:57 PM
gumballguy

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

Also what is the point of this product? GPGPU calculations already scale linearly, in most situations, so what is the need of this?

Good question.

Unless it lets you drive additional monitors too (not sure how many would find this useful)?
02-17-2009, 04:57 PM
m0da

I believe from previous/recent articles/user comments that you can not mix and match cards from different companies (AMD + nVidia = no go). They have said it is because you can only have one driver (from AMD or nVidia) on your windows O/S (at least for now).
what can stop four top-of-the-line graphics cards?
Larrabee (HEHE jk!!)
...for now
02-17-2009, 05:31 PM
IronWarrior

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0da

I believe from previous/recent articles/user comments that you can not mix and match cards from different companies (AMD + nVidia = no go). They have said it is because you can only have one driver (from AMD or nVidia) on your windows O/S (at least for now).
what can stop four top-of-the-line graphics cards?
Larrabee (HEHE jk!!)
...for now

That is not true anymore, you can mix cards on XP and Windows 7.
02-17-2009, 05:41 PM
m0da

Quote:

Originally Posted by IronWarrior

That is not true anymore, you can mix cards on XP and Windows 7.

:eek: any articles? I wanna get in on the info too!!:)

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